Hello,
I travel on business and bought a Pro Challenger DD bridge for my sons 112H (3/0) a while ago but unable to install until today. It was his first build and has a SS (Tani) bridge sleeve, Bryan's drag stack & an Accurate frame from Randy Pauly and have all been great upgrades.
Today we went to install the bridge but were having issues with the the clutch engaging. After a few dis-assemblies and trying to troubleshot I noticed the longer of the two dogs was not operating. Long story short I noticed the dog is partially covering the upper bridge screw hole. This was forcing this dog to not engage on the gear. So at first evaluation I'm thinking "no big deal" I will Dremel down the dog for clearance. So I gain the clearance I need and took off about all the material I felt comfortable with just to maintain some integrity on the dog. I reassembled and the same thing- no engagement! That's when I realized that this hole is the upper bridge hole & has the clutch springs on the outside. I really don't want to take off any more dog material and will probably just run with a single dog which is a serious bummer.
So the big question is.....has anyone else noticed this issue? If you assembled it as is you are probably operating with only one functional dog.......
I bought two of them, but haven't installed yet. I hope someone has a solution...
Well, there are some really really smart people on here and maybe I am overlooking something with this (I am just a hobbyist). I know Sal commissioned the prototype and that guy is a freakin genius. Just waiting for some of the "heavy hitters" to chime in and guide me along- lol
Honestly, the only reason I noticed this was because I was making this so the dogs would alternate and it wouldn't report when turning. This dog is practically invisible due to it location and would be very difficult to visually verify it's operation. It would (audibly) stop when fully tightened and operate when the bridge screws were loose and gained some clearance.
oh yeah, I'm sure someone will know ;D
It looks to me like what is contacting the dog isn't the spring but the yoke. The jack sits on the bridge, the yoke sits on the jack, and the spring on the yoke. This pic of some old pieces shows how they stack up under the bridge. Just off the top of my head...a flat spring would ease your pain. Cut a slot through the spring post (if it's big enough) and bend the flat spring into shape.
That is the solution mike, I have two also. I will try revering the dogs first
Joe
What you need to do is to remove that dog and use the stock dog on that side. Or send it back and let Alan deal with it.
Mike
I have 2, I put one in the narrow kit from Randy and saving one for a stock width when I get some plates. It does have alot of play in the handle. I'll have to open in up and check it out. If it's hitting the yoke would it make sense to take some meat off the yoke where it hits? the yoke is stainless so it should be plenty strong.
I'm only guessing but the picture I see I would reverse the dogs/switch them to see if that doesn't work.
Joe
Quote from: Reel 224 on February 02, 2019, 05:16:16 PM
I'm only guessing but the picture I see I would reverse the dogs/switch them to see if that doesn't work.
Joe
My bridge plate went east to replace one I destroyed trying to repair so I don't have one to look at but I think I had the dogs that way.
I'm sure a solution will be found and everyone will soon be happy with their bridge. We need Alan to see this and weigh in on his plan of action..... so everyone hold onto your hats, take a deep breath, and I'm sure this will be addressed shortly. All the pictures I find of this bridge look the same.
This is not a big deal — we all need to realize (and most of us do) that these custom upgrades and parts occasionally have a glitch.
Alan C. and our other great custom makers have ALWAYS addressed any issues and corrected them properly.
Most of us are grateful for the clever custom parts in SS that are offered here by our reel component upgrade makers.
Patience and confidence in the integrity of our members — who offer these upgrades that we all enjoy — is appreciated by everyone.
There are at least 5 ways that I can think of to address this issue by substituting, drilling, tapping, slicing, and grinding.
But I think the best way is to just let Alan C. figure out the solution — and offer a recall when that is accomplished.
Thanks for everyone's patience and classy cooperation!
I have every confidence that this will be handled properly for all concerned.
Best,
Fred
I have no doubt this will be resolved and we'll have dogs clicking away. You've gotta like the collective head scratching going on. Always going to be some glitches here and there when going outside the box.
We are looking into it. We will come up a solution one way or the other. It might take couple weeks, due to the Chinese New Year next week. But, someone is coming up a solution as we speak. In a meanwhile, if a refund is requested, just let me know.
So, i ended up trimming the dog a bit more and slightly modified the yoke as well. The dog I machined some slots for the spring to grab onto and it does not slip off. I mocked this up with the brass yoke & jack and as you can see it has clearance and both dogs function as designed. I did ensure I had enough yoke for the spring to have plenty of foundation for any unexpected movement. I will test this on some trigger's if the marine forecast ever subsides here and report back but i'm really confident I won't encounter any issues.
Does this mean I have the first functioning alternating double dog 112H for this production line? ;)
Uh did you even try the suggestion of switching the dogs ???
Joe
I'm pretty sure you cant switch the dogs. I found 2 new ones in the package today. I dont know how long ago I purchased them. I will check them out to see if they show the same problem.
Keith
Ok guys, here is what happened...I screwed up!
I was told by Alan to position the new holes on a Jigmaster bridge and I think I did a pretty good on that.
Afterwards I was asked to check for functionality while using the same dogs, that's were I screwed up at.
I think I know what happened, while testing the dogs, they were working just fine, but I never realized I had the plate on freespool.
As rscotth has mentioned there is definitely a problem...thanks rscotth for discovering this problem. You are correct, the second dog is impossible to see and you can only depend on your ears.
Mo, thanks to you as well, you came very close on finding what the issue was and did it quickly.
Many different issues were interfering with the new dog, so I decided a different location would be best.
Here is a very short video that will show what's going on:
https://youtu.be/D9dz3Q7zl2w
I was able to bend the dog with very little effort
(https://i.imgur.com/QMPwrAq.jpg)
you could see how much I was able to get without damages to the dog
(https://i.imgur.com/Z3PKW5e.jpg)
that gave me plenty of clearance
(https://i.imgur.com/U1owoZ7.jpg)
but then I discovered another issue, the tip of the jack was making contact with the dog when in gear.
I'm showing it in red
(https://i.imgur.com/9EOy7eK.jpg)
This made the 2 dogs work nicely, but when assembled, I discovered the yoke , by the spring was pressing on the new dog and causing it not to function. I could have fixed it with shims, but didn't think it would be the best solution.
So, here you have it.
After 3 hours of trying to find a good solution I came up with this, but it will be up to Alan on how he wants to go about it.
(https://i.imgur.com/gRmLzYY.jpg)
I decided to use 2 of the same dogs and it is working good.
(https://i.imgur.com/w251v9y.jpg)
Shaving of the plate is minimum with this second dog.
I have it marked in red, the blue circle shows that that area doesn't need to be touched.
(https://i.imgur.com/nPtvK7g.jpg)
Sorry for screwing this one up Alan and my fellow members.
Sal
A likely easy fix would be just to send out a properly modified and new dog —
Anyone who can drop in a new bridge — can easily switch out a dog.
These SS dogs are strong enough to be a little thinner where needed.
Don't be concerned, Sal —
If all of your screwups were added together — they likely wouldn't add up to 10% of the ones that I admit to.
Plus, think of all we have learned...
I appreciate all you do, Sal.
Best,
Fred
I nominate rscotth to be a recipient of the AT wrench award for his input.
Ted
Quote from: Alto Mare on February 02, 2019, 10:36:25 PM
I discovered another issue, the tip of the jack was making contact with the dog when in gear.
I had a feeling that jack would hit also when in gear, but without an actual bridge here, I couldn't check. I like your fix Sal, it pulls the dog out of the danger zone.
Quote from: mo65 on February 02, 2019, 10:56:53 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on February 02, 2019, 10:36:25 PM
I discovered another issue, the tip of the jack was making contact with the dog when in gear.
I had a feeling that jack would hit also when in gear, but without an actual bridge here, I couldn't check. I like your fix Sal, it pulls the dog out of the danger zone.
Thank you Mo, yes that's what I thought. As you know, things always look easy afterwards, the problem is always with getting there.
You are a pretty knowledgeable guy when it comes to this type of stuff, Mo, so if you or anyone else has a better suggestion on positionong the dogs please share.
I'm just a volunteer for the Alan Tani site, unfortunately this one got away, not that I was expecting to use the same dogs as a jigmaster, but it is what it is now.
Sal
Thank you Sal! But,
My only complaint is your video needs a little Verdi or Puccini soundtrack.
Please fix that!
steve
Thanks Sal. I will check the 2 113H DD bridges I found yesterday. I also found 2 Penn Torque 25 reels NIB that were in another box. Way up high where my Daiwa parts box was.
Well shoot, I can't see the pictures...I'll have to try again when I get home. I'd like to see this fix.
Quote from: swill88 on February 02, 2019, 11:42:29 PM
Thank you Sal! But,
My only complaint is your video needs a little Verdi or Puccini soundtrack.
Please fix that!
steve
marvin Gaye,,,what's going on,,,,,, ;D
Quote from: swill88 on February 02, 2019, 11:42:29 PM
Thank you Sal! But,
My only complaint is your video needs a little Verdi or Puccini soundtrack.
Please fix that!
steve
Hey Steve —
How about a little CCR — "Commotion".
Or John Prine doing — "Angel That Flies from Montgomery"...
👍👍👍😀😀😀
Best,
Fred
Don't know if this will help, but Abel fly reels use a pin on the dog to hold the spring in place. This allows for a smaller area on the dog to hold the spring, even when it is not perfectly aligned. Maybe extend the tip a bit too, and fix the engagement angle so it is flush with the ratchet, Just an idea. I don't have a 112h and Tom's 112h sideplates to actually try anything.
-J
Good to hear your input Dave, I also thought about a pin at the very end of the dog as you're showing, But didn't think there is enough room there to make it functional. I'm showing the available space from the edge of the yoke to the dog with the blue arrows.
Also, the jack will still need to be modified, as I'm showing with the red arrow.
(https://i.imgur.com/LY61BSe.jpg)
Where I placed the second dog it is actually better than original, the only problem is that it might not work in Tom's plate.
The way I'm showing will be no problem with stock plates.
Alan will need to make his decision on how he wants to go with these, I wanted too give him as many ideas as we could, but options are limited
Thank you Dave!
Sal
I'm just grateful there's many great minds in here to combat any issues that come up with our reels and upgrades, thank you all!!!
Boys the reverse angle on the on dog helps get it out of the way with very little alteration. I have two DD bridges the I am installing with the new plates the Tom made. I'm sure that going to work.
Sal: If Chewie is willing to correct the minor glitch. I would suggest sending the dogs that are arched like the one that is pictured on the left. IMO
Joe
It would be good to see a photo of the curved dog on the problem post Joe, I think there would still be clearance issues ???
I wish I had one of these on hand to experiment with, but it seems the existing dog post is just too close to the upper bridge screw to work and would also get in the way of some options to relocate the post. With the benefit of hindsight, the post would likely have been OK a post width further from the bridge screw and maybe a shorter 'lever' for the spring.
(http://alantani.com/gallery/26/7995_03_02_19_2_10_30_269871240.jpeg)
Then I thought maybe the existing post could be cut flush with the bridge and a new hole drilled, but I think the remains of the old post right next to a new peened post would weaken/reduce the support from the bridge.
I'm thinking Sal's idea of moving the dog and spring to a different location would probably be the least painful.
Mike
PS: A narrow one piece dog and post also came to mind but it's probably not strong enough for a 112H ::) ;D
Hello Mike, thanks for coming in with your ideas, it is very much appreciated. As you're showing was actually my very first attempt, but I was trying to use the dogs unaltered.
Custom plates are already milled and I don't think it would be fair for anyone to grind those afterwards, so I think I will give it another shot, by cutting the dog short as you are showing.
This should keep everything as close as it was originally.
With that said, I have no idea on how Tom's milled plate will work.
I did send Tom a bridge as close as the one I will be posting, so it should work out.
Tom did not have to do this, but when he was asked he said he would try...thanks again Tom.
Sal
Quote from: Reel 224 on February 03, 2019, 03:51:34 AM
Boys the reverse angle on the on dog helps get it out of the way with very little alteration. I have two DD bridges the I am installing with the new plates the Tom made. I'm sure that going to work.
Sal: If Chewie is willing to correct the minor glitch. I would suggest sending the dogs that are arched like the one that is pictured on the left. IMO
Joe
Hello Joe, I don't quiet get what you're saying.
Here is another pic of the 2 curved dogs, both dogs are perfectly square with the ratchet:
(https://i.imgur.com/cPNBy8h.jpg?1)
Again, to me this would be the best layout, but the custom plate would need to be grinded and I don't want members to do so...if I could help it.
Thanks Joe
I was saying exactly that setup. From the picture it looks to me that one dog has to be shortened on the right. on the leg because it's extending over the bridge a little. If this is not due-able then something is wrong with my thinking, please tell me.
Joe
Quote from: Reel 224 on February 03, 2019, 02:07:43 PM
I was saying exactly that setup. From the picture it looks to me that one dog has to be shortened on the right. on the leg because it's extending over the bridge a little. If this is not due-able then something is wrong with my thinking, please tell me.
Joe
Oh, that's what you meant Joe, no the tail is even with the bridge, it shows otherwise from the pic.
You could see this from the last pic of the bridge mounted on the plate on the previous page.
Ok, here is my last attempt and it is headed down to Alan. It has been tested and everything is working as it should
(https://i.imgur.com/zQjKxVT.jpg?2)
If they want to taper the dog as I'm showing, it will be up to them. Dog will work just fine if left wide at the tip.
(https://i.imgur.com/nMhGhTb.jpg)
Not the best shot, but working the dremel a nice pin could be shaped on the dog to hold the spring
(https://i.imgur.com/U9HXhwE.jpg)
I am now done with this one, it is now in Alan's hands and his guys.
Sal
Thanks for the R&D Sal. Looks like lot's of hours in a cold basement.
-g
;) ;D Great Sal, another upgrade was successfully accomplished.
Joe
Great work, Sal!
If I was on a wagon train heading West — Sal would have to be on board.
Because he can do and fix anything.
Solutions are generally tougher to find than problems.
Best,
Fred
Good work guys. R&D and custom parts have a growing period, some are painless and others require patience. Without this crew no of this would be possible.....Bill
Hopefully i will get into the shop today to check the 2 DD bridges i have.
Sal dont you have one in the Tank reel?
Keith
Quote from: handi2 on February 03, 2019, 08:47:25 PM
Hopefully i will get into the shop today to check the 2 DD bridges i have.
Sal dont you have one in the Tank reel?
Keith
Hello Keith, yes I do have the 113h DD bridge, but I'm not sure on what I'm checking for.
I did not experience any problems with the jigmaster bridge, or 113hbridge and I'm not aware if you or any one else did.
The only bridge in question is the 112h.
In order for anything to work to perfection the person testing would need to have all parts prior to production, it's the only way.
I'm not in charge here, like I said above I'm just giving my time to the site to help out when asked.
As far as the 112h goes, we' re just guessing at this point if the custom bridge will work with the custom plates.
Even though all the parts are well made, they need to get along.
Sal
Sal
Every one of us are not perfect we are learning every day Sal, and your right some times you have to hold it in your hands to get a solution. Ride on brother.
Joe
:) Customizing equals time and tinkering. Well done gents, enjoyed the read.
Quote from: Alto Mare on February 03, 2019, 09:31:10 PM
Quote from: handi2 on February 03, 2019, 08:47:25 PM
Hopefully i will get into the shop today to check the 2 DD bridges i have.
Sal dont you have one in the Tank reel?
Keith
Hello Keith, yes I do have the 113h DD bridge, but I'm not sure on what I'm checking for.
I did not experience any problems with the jigmaster bridge, or 113hbridge and I'm not aware if you or any one else did.
The only bridge in question is the 112h.
In order for anything to work to perfection the person testing would need to have all parts prior to production, it's the only way.
I'm not in charge here, like I said above I'm just giving my time to the site to help out when asked.
As far as the 112h goes, we' re just guessing at this point if the custom bridge will work with the custom plates.
Even though all the parts are well made, they need to get along.
Sal
Sal
I got it now. Its only the 112H bridge in question. Thanks again.
Keith
Yes sir.
Joe
Sal, these last few modifications you've posted involve moving the dog post, right? I see more holes in the bridge, I think that's what's going on.... hard to tell without side-by-side pics. If so, that won't be a fix everyone can do well/easily at home....
Quote from: sdlehr on February 04, 2019, 02:10:54 PM
Sal, these last few modifications you've posted involve moving the dog post, right? I see more holes in the bridge, I think that's what's going on.... hard to tell without side-by-side pics. If so, that won't be a fix everyone can do well/easily at home....
Challenging operation, but if I can do it, so could anyone else. Make sure you have good drill bits, the bridge is very hard to drill and so is tapping it for the screw.
My post are made from ss screws as a temporary fix, not a good choice, but it would work. I did this so they could see what's going on and have the location of the new dog as well, with no chance of getting it moved.
Peened posts is always the best choice.
Sal
Excuse me for butting in but I think Sid is right, your explanation of the procedure in order to make that fix is not going to be in everyone's capability. I would not be happy to pay for those bridges and go threw that if I didn't have the eqiptment. But I have thousands of dollars of eqiptment to do that.
I thought it was checked out before to see if they were fitting right, I could be wrong. But that's not a simple fix. just my opinion.
Joe
I gave this a little more thought and I would say there is got to be another way to do the fix without drilling and taping. Just change the dog configuration itself. and send everyone the new dog.
Joe
At this point, with the information and testing we have available —
There are likely (3) options —
(1) If another dog of the proper size so as to not interfere with the jack, yoke, and hole can be designed — just do that and ship one to each client that has bought this drop in unit.
(2) Send out another complete proper drop-in unit to each client — with the dog post in the right position.
(3) Full refund if either of the above two options can not be accomplished.
The required mod cannot be accomplished by the average guy, easily — and that is why a drop-in unit was purchased in the first place.
Just a cost of doing business. Glitches happen — and when they do — they need to be addressed and handled quickly and completely.
I am sure Alan C. is working out a solution as we speak.
He has offered valuable products to our Ohana — with very few issues (any issues have been always taken care of by Alan C.) — for a long time now. And I expect that this little issue will be handled with class.
Best,
Fred
This is what some of us suggested originally as the best fix —
I gave this a little more thought and I would say there is got to be another way to do the fix without drilling and tapping. Just change the dog configuration itself. and send everyone the new dog.
Joe
Hi all,
I will replace those bridges have been sold. The following will be the options.
1.) Full refund
2.) Replace with new design bridge with modify dog. Customers will ship back bad bridge to me for replacement.
I will pay for the shipping both ways.
If there is any question, please let me know.
Sorry for the mistake.
Thanks,
--Alan
Thanks Fred, you pretty much always get it.
Quote from: Reel 224 on February 04, 2019, 04:25:33 PM
I gave this a little more thought and I would say there is got to be another way to do the fix without drilling and taping. Just change the dog configuration itself. and send everyone the new dog.
Joe
Hello Joe,
My drilling and tapping is done so I could send the sample to Alan, that bridge is only used as a template and will be trashed afterwards.
No one is getting a new bridge with drilled posts, those will be peened ...as they should be.
Alan should get it by tomorrow.
Sal
Sorry Alan...typing at the same time...
Thank You —
Everyone who has addressed and handled this issue so well — thoughtfully & professionally.
Best,
Fred
Sal,Alan,Fred: I hope everyone realizes that I'm trying to help both Alan with a less costly fix and I was not implying any malice to anyone neither Sal or Alan C. I as a business and producer I know what pains taking work it takes to develop a new product.
Thanks Alan for addressing this situation so quickly. I also have two bridges that I will return for a replacement.
Joe
Quote from: Reel 224 on February 04, 2019, 05:51:48 PM
Sal,Alan,Fred: I hope everyone realizes that I'm trying to help both Alan with a less costly fix and I was not implying any malice to anyone neither Sal or Alan C. I as a business and producer I know what pains taking work it takes to develop a new product.
Thanks Alan for addressing this situation so quickly. I also have two bridges that I will return for a replacement.
Joe
Just hold on to them for now. I will start replacing them when I have those new one ready.
Alan Chui is taking care of this problem the best way possible and is to be commended. I'm sure a few lessons were learned in this process..... In the end, everything will be ok. If everything is not ok, it simply means that it is not yet the end.
Quote from: sdlehr on February 04, 2019, 08:46:37 PM
Alan Chui is taking care of this problem the best way possible and is to be commended. I'm sure a few lessons were learned in this process..... In the end, everything will be ok. If everything is not ok, it simply means that it is not yet the end.
We have no reason to think otherwise. Just give the time to put heads together.
Joe
Alan Chui: I will fix the two DD Bridges myself when I have time. It would be simpler for me to do that then send them back and make you pay shipping back and forth.
In business Joe off the hook
Stand up Move Chui. ;)
I commend you Sir.
These Small Business here are just that. SMALL! I believe everyone is trying there best to put out the very best offers to the Alan Tani members that they possibly can produce. If so as a small business owner I feel an obligation to help when ever I can.
That is why I offered to help Alan Chui with my two bridges. Because I can.
Joe
Off the Hook Rod & Reel
I used the bridge anyway with just one dog,still better than stock.
Everyone that has a Double Dog bridge from Pro Challenger (Alan Chui)
Here is a simple correction to right side dog, It took me exactly 5 Min. to do, with dikes (side cutter) and a file. That's it.
Here are three pictures to show there is NO interference at all, I even compressed the spring to show there is plenty of clearance.
Joe
Off the Hook Rod & Reel
Joe,
Will it clear the yoke also?
Yes sir.
joe
I believe that it will hit the jack, Joe. Try to put that in with the reel and test it out.
I will test it Alan and if it needs a little tweak I will show what I did, but I'm sure it will be an easier fix for everyone who wishes to do that instead of shipping back a forth> IMHOP
Joe
Off the Hook Rod & Reel
Test on 112H Double Dog bridge, I have to say one thing before I start. This is not going to be a 1-2-3 fix.
I thought by shorting the dog leg at a angle was the interference that was the problem (1) did not work after testing. the clutch was still hanging up, I seen evidence of the Eccentric jack on the dog, so I narrowed down the dog in that area (2). After that the clutch still did not engage, but I noticed that when I loosened the top bridge screw a minute turn the clutch engaged (3) Now that isn't the fix. I have stopped for now. But the bottom line is.
It is not an easy fix. I also tried the bridge in the stock plate and that was No Go without modifying the plate for the other dog. Sorry I jumped the gun with saying I had a fix, but I was wanting to find an easy fix.
Joe
Off the Hook Rod & Reel
I'm brain storming and I"m going to try spacer material to see if that will work.
Joe
Don't worry, Joe. We have a solution to address this issue.
Quote from: Black Pearl on February 14, 2019, 10:42:52 PM
Don't worry, Joe. We have a solution to address this issue.
I'm not worried Chuie, this is a challenge for me now to come up with a fix. I sure if I were to move the dog post and use a lief spring it would work, but I don't want to go that far. I have a few thoughts in my head. I'll try tomorrow.
Joe
Off the Hook Rod & Reel
I'm just getting home and these were sitting on my front stoop
(https://i.imgur.com/GoXygqC.jpg)
As Ispeculated Tom did an amazing job on making the doouble dogs work...thank you Tom.
Too bad the bridge is not working out.
I did send one to Alan, but now I feel as I want to play with it a little more. Not promising anything, but I'm going to give it another shot at it.
Sal
Not saying it can't be fixed, but I have spent considerable time trying a multitude of trials and eras and I will admit I haven't found one solution. I was really committed to find a fix that everyone could mange. I come up with 0. Sorry Alan I gave it my best shot without drilling and redesigning the bridge. :-[
Joe
Off the Hook Rod & Reel
Alan has the supposed fixed bridge in hand already, I sent it to him the same day I moved the pin.
The reason I wanted to get on these quickly, was to see if the new positioned dog will still work with Tom's plates.
Of course I have to start all over again and make another bridge as the one I sent Alan, i might not get to it this evening, as soon as I do I will post My results.
Sal
I just got done trying many dogs in different shape with no luck.
The dog post needs to be moved as previously shown.
I moved it only 3.5mm up and the pin for the spring didn't need to be moved.
The good news is that it will work in Tom's plates even after moving that dog.
I'll post a couple of pics sometime tomorrow.
I will be sending Alan this bridge as well, I like the idea of only relocating one hole by a couple of mm.
Sal
moved the dog pin up about 3.5mm and left the spring pin as it was
(https://i.imgur.com/z9ZJeDG.jpg)
the dog needed some minor customizing
(https://i.imgur.com/m4iZaGU.jpg)
and it is now working nicely
(https://i.imgur.com/EOZxz2J.jpg)
tested in Tom's plate and all is good
(https://i.imgur.com/7tJbmrG.jpg)
I will send this one as well, just in case.
Sal
Quote from: Alto Mare on February 20, 2019, 07:54:35 PM
moved the dog pin up about 3.5mm and left the spring pin as it was
the dog needed some minor customizing
(https://i.imgur.com/EOZxz2J.jpg)
I like the angle of the dog much better now in this modification than the original design. It sits much more in alignment with the angle of the ratchet teeth on the gear sleeve.
Good job Sal. :)
Thanks Frank! lots of headaches for 1/8" off with one dog post...it is what it is...
By the way, custom bridge screws stick out on Tom's plate.
(https://i.imgur.com/h8CByyv.jpg)
These are Prochallenger's, they sit flush on his kits, one thread out on stock plates and two threads on Tom. I would not be concerned, I tested this many times and these screws will do just fine as they are.
Tom really outdid himself with these latest kits, I love the new design.
There is plenty of clearance in there for everything to work.
I will post a pic of my personal build, but only after I find time to make me a special red knob. :)
Sal
Nicely done yet again Sal! Out of curiosity, what did you use for the dog pin when you moved it?
Quote from: Alto Mare on February 20, 2019, 11:41:09 PM
Thanks Frank! lots of headaches for 1/8" off with one dog post...it is what it is...
By the way, custom bridge screws stick out on Tom's plate.
(https://i.imgur.com/h8CByyv.jpg)
These are Prochallenger's, they sit flush on his kits, one thread out on stock plates and two threads on Tom. I would not be concerned, I tested this many times and these screws will do just fine as they are.
Tom really outdid himself with these latest kits, I love the new design.
There is plenty of clearance in there for everything to work.
I will post a pic of my personal build, but only after I find time to make me a special red knob. :)
Sal
Sal: Which screws are you referring to. My screws are flush or .000" high if that.
Joe
I used your screws Joe in mine, perfect fit. Thanks for making them. Sheridan
Quote from: Fishy247 on February 21, 2019, 04:15:10 PM
Nicely done yet again Sal! Out of curiosity, what did you use for the dog pin when you moved it?
A ss screw. This is just a template and its on the way to Alan. I like a peened post better, but with some permanent Loctite, I think the screw would hold just fine...if you had to.
Sal
Sorry, late to the party again!!!! But Sal's fix looks real familiar!!!!
Double dogged 112H 3/0 bridgeplate
« on: September 02, 2018, 08:15:25 PM »
Peter
Yes Peter yours do look familiar.
I found emails were I stated that the left side dog needed to be moved up prior to this, but at this point not much matters but the get it right.
Thanks Peter!
Sal
I wish I would have seen this earlier but as I only have one 112H and I already customized my bridge plate
I didn't see a need to buy one of Alan's as mine works great!!! Glad that Alan is taking care of this but if anyone wants
me to do it or mail out some of the PEM pins that I get from McMaster-Carr so that they could do it themselves, I'm game.
It's actually not that hard!!!!!
Peter
Nice work, Peter!
Any word on getting our bridges switched out? Thanks!
Personally, I went to a single Dog with my two. I suppose I could do and alteration to fit the old style in but. I have better things to do right now, besides I don't see the advantage for the type of fishing we have here. If a customer wants it then it's extra money.
Joe
Quote from: Darin Crofton on April 04, 2019, 12:25:15 AM
Any word on getting our bridges switched out? Thanks!
My resource just received the good bridge and dog. He will start working on them soon.
It should take about 3 weeks to get it done.
Alan, any updates?
Quote from: Dan-J on June 18, 2019, 04:04:39 PM
Alan, any updates?
They just finished to re-modified the bridge. They should be here sometime next week. I will send out a posting for people to send back the bad bridge and receive a new bridge.
When the new and improved ones are available I want one...
Cool
I will be contacting any member who has purchased this item for exchanging.
If a member purchased this item, please send me an email with your name, address and email address, so I can send a return shipping label for returning the defected bridge.
Sales@prochallenger.com
Thanks,
Alan