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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn International Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: CarolinaCustomReels on August 18, 2010, 06:27:14 PM

Title: Penn International 12 Drag ?
Post by: CarolinaCustomReels on August 18, 2010, 06:27:14 PM
Do you think it would be possible to stretch 12-15# of drag out of an International 12? I have a customer who is getting 4-5# consistently out of his trio of reels, and would like heavier drag pressures to fish braid with them. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Penn International 12 Drag ?
Post by: Phinaddict on August 18, 2010, 09:26:09 PM
Maybe change the belville stack from ()() to (()) . See where that gets you. Then maybe remove the thrust washer and add a fifth one, (())). Not sure if removing the thrust washer will work though....

If it is an old 12h, it might be worth upgrading to a Dura Drag. Come to think of it, if its only able to generate 4-5 lbs. of drag, something needs fixing anyway.....I think.
Title: Re: Penn International 12 Drag ?
Post by: alantani on August 18, 2010, 11:05:33 PM
i've got one and i have to add a bearing sleeve.  check for slipping spectra as well.  alan
Title: Re: Penn International 12 Drag ?
Post by: CarolinaCustomReels on August 19, 2010, 12:33:16 AM
Alan, how much drag are you getting at strike before loosing freespool on yours? I just want to set a baseline expectation of what the reel is capable of before I start work, as I haven't done one of the 12s before.
Title: Re: Penn International 12 Drag ?
Post by: alantani on August 19, 2010, 04:11:14 PM
figure maybe 15 pounds at the very most.  they are not very large reels. alan
Title: Re: Penn International 12 Drag ?
Post by: ReelFishingProblems on December 17, 2018, 12:06:32 PM
Pulling this post out of the attic for a light dusting off,

One, does anyone have Bellevilles for the original 12s?
Second,
Alan you said you used a bearing sleeve, do you remember the specifics on it?

Thanks
Nick
Title: Re: Penn International 12 Drag ?
Post by: alantani on December 17, 2018, 04:49:50 PM
i have to mike everything out.  it's been so long.  finding brass tubing material was just a matter of making a trip to the local hardware store.  the sleeve has to be cut by hand and it's very tedious.  for the bellevilles, let me know the dimensions of the stock bellevilles and i'll figure something out for you. 
Title: Re: Penn International 12 Drag ?
Post by: Reel 224 on December 17, 2018, 05:34:13 PM
If I'm understanding you guys the right way and If your asking for a Spacer sleeve, then I could make one to the specification for it in SS. Just post the specks.

Joe 
Title: Re: Penn International 12 Drag ?
Post by: ReelFishingProblems on December 17, 2018, 07:50:30 PM
The Bellevilles are:
ID 6mm
OD 12mm
Thickness 1mm
Height just under 1.5mm

Joe,
What would a SS spacer like that cost?

Nick
Title: Re: Penn International 12 Drag ?
Post by: thorhammer on December 17, 2018, 09:46:00 PM
Joe, figure costing for  three if the sleeve also fits 12T. I need two. Nick, I'm back home finally, and will try to measure the 12T bellevilles. I'm sure mine could stand to be replaced as well and I'm looking for 12lbs drag if I can get it to fish 40lb mono topshot. I caught a 30 lb cobia on 30 mono off a wreck with one of them so I should have no problem with our mahi...I don't think one of them, ever built could drag a cobia around...
Title: Re: Penn International 12 Drag ?
Post by: David Hall on December 17, 2018, 10:42:54 PM
6lbs was the most I could get out of mine even after messing with the bellvilles.  so I sent it to Cal Sheets.  now I can get 22 at strike and a smooth ramp up to 40 at sunset.  but then for the money I put in this reel I could have bought a Mak 20 SEA.
Title: Re: Penn International 12 Drag ?
Post by: alantani on December 17, 2018, 10:53:41 PM
Quote from: ReelFishingProblems on December 17, 2018, 07:50:30 PM
The Bellevilles are:
ID 6mm
OD 12mm
Thickness 1mm
Height just under 1.5mm

Joe,
What would a SS spacer like that cost?

Nick

i have flat washers that have a 6mm inside diameter, but no bellevilles. 
Title: Re: Penn International 12 Drag ?
Post by: ReelFishingProblems on December 17, 2018, 11:13:19 PM
A guy at work says he has a parts reel 12 that is in reel rough shape.
I'm going to buy it from him and see what we're working with.

John, maybe it will have a thrust bearing for you
Title: Re: Penn International 12 Drag ?
Post by: richard on December 17, 2018, 11:30:22 PM
I ended up removing the belvilles and replacing with flat washers .
Goes up to about 12 lb with free spool ,measured direct from full spool .Greased drag ,smooth ,very slight handle binding.Nice reel.
Title: Re: Penn International 12 Drag ?
Post by: thorhammer on December 18, 2018, 06:55:40 PM
Quote from: ReelFishingProblems on December 17, 2018, 11:13:19 PM
A guy at work says he has a parts reel 12 that is in reel rough shape.
I'm going to buy it from him and see what we're working with.

John, maybe it will have a thrust bearing for you


lemme know. i may need other stuff from it if you don't. one of mine is kind of rough.
Title: Re: Penn International 12 Drag ?
Post by: Reel 224 on December 19, 2018, 01:51:21 AM
Nick: I just got around to reading this post again tonight. Figure on the measurements you posted 6.00mm ID, 12.00mm OD, 1.00mm Thick?? Hight did you mean 1.5mm or 15.00mm. 

I have to have exact measurements, so I would ask you for a old spacer, as I do not have every spacer for the penn reels. Based on that figure on $1.95-$2.50ea

Joe
Title: Re: Penn International 12 Drag ?
Post by: ReelFishingProblems on December 19, 2018, 02:02:16 AM
Joe,
That was the Belleville washers.
I will measure the spacer size needed and get back to you.
Thanks for offering to make this.

Nick
Title: Re: Penn International 12 Drag ?
Post by: Reel 224 on December 19, 2018, 02:04:46 AM
 ;D ;D ;D Thanks Nick, I thought I was missing something or just having a senior moment....................Joe