Well the Brain Trust under the Dome in Sacramento figured out another way to separate us from our money.
If you own a boat and are 60 or younger, you'll need a Kalifornia Boater ID card.
Can't wait till I retire and get out of this state.
Steve
As of Jan. 1, 2024, a California Boater Card is required to be carried by motorized boat operators 60 years of age and younger. By 2025, all operators of motorized boats will be required to carry a California Boater Card, regardless of age. The California Boater Card is proof of successful completion of an approved boating safety course. The best part is, you can obtain your lifetime card for only $10 right now! To see the complete list of approved courses and obtain your California Boater Card, visit www.californiaboatercard.com today!
Oregon has required these for over 20 years but they were free when I got mine. I can't remember how much my BC one was.
I don't have an issue with the training but it shouldn't cost a penny.
Yup, lots of uneducated idiots on the water.
How may idiots in Klownifornia have $10. This won't solve anything.
It will expose them to the navigation rules, but look at the number of idiots on the roads.
I took a Coast Guard course around 30+ years ago.
It covered safety, emergencies, navigation, weather, communication, laws, right of ways, markers, and required gear & equipment. Think it was 6 or 10 weeks.
Passed a test —- and got a Coast Guard certification card.
Wife gets mad when we enter Wal-Mart or a grocery store —-
I just pull the card out of my wallet, flash it at the doors —- and they open automatically.
Best, Fred
The California law enacted to require boater cards actually specifies that the fees collected cannnot exceed the cost of the program. Only the people who want to drive a boat have to pay:
From: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201320140SB941 (https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201320140SB941)
678.3. (a) (1) The division shall determine the fees required under this section in amounts sufficient to cover the reasonable costs of the development, establishment, and operation of the program. The fees shall not exceed those costs.
(2) The division shall charge a fee not to exceed thirty dollars ($30) for the initial vessel operator card issued pursuant to subdivision (b) of Section 678.
The other options not chosen would have been to have the majority of California taxpayers who are not recreational boaters fully subsidize the education of the few that are, or continue to let clueless knuckleheads drive boats around without any boating knowledge whatsoever.
Almost all states have a proof of boater education requirement, although many limit it to younger folk.
Best wishes on your out of state retirement.
-J
Quote from: foakes on January 13, 2024, 06:21:51 AMI took a Coast Guard course around 30+ years ago.
It covered safety, emergencies, navigation, weather, communication, laws, right of ways, markers, and required gear & equipment. Think it was 6 or 10 weeks.
Passed a test —- and got a Coast Guard certification card.
Wife gets mad when we enter Wal-Mart or a grocery store —-
I just pull the card out of my wallet, flash it at the doors —- and they open automatically.
Best, Fred
OK I feel a little fishy and will bite .. Wife gets mad when we enter Wal-Mart or a grocery store —-
I just pull the card out of my wallet, flash it at the doors —- and they open automatically.
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My BC card was free. You only pay for the course here if you decide to take one. The card is good for life.
Todd
had mine now for a number of years. I just thought taking a boater safety class was a good idea. I had already aged out, I didn't even need to take the course. I guarantee it will not make anyone more unsafe than they already are. :d
Quote from: oldmanjoe on January 13, 2024, 02:33:43 PMQuote from: foakes on January 13, 2024, 06:21:51 AMI took a Coast Guard course around 30+ years ago.
It covered safety, emergencies, navigation, weather, communication, laws, right of ways, markers, and required gear & equipment. Think it was 6 or 10 weeks.
Passed a test —- and got a Coast Guard certification card.
Wife gets mad when we enter Wal-Mart or a grocery store —-
I just pull the card out of my wallet, flash it at the doors —- and they open automatically.
Best, Fred
OK I feel a little fishy and will bite .. Wife gets mad when we enter Wal-Mart or a grocery store —-
I just pull the card out of my wallet, flash it at the doors —- and they open automatically.
(https://alantani.com/gallery/35/17471_03_11_21_2_19_53_357481745.jpeg)
Yeah, I'm trying to figure that one out, too. ???
Oregon does require a class now. Online cost was like $60+ and took hours to complete. And you have to carry the card.
Governmental fees are nothing more than disguised taxes, going up every year.
Oregon does not miss a chance to get into our pockets.
Quote from: Midway Tommy on January 13, 2024, 05:48:00 PMQuote from: oldmanjoe on January 13, 2024, 02:33:43 PMQuote from: foakes on January 13, 2024, 06:21:51 AMI took a Coast Guard course around 30+ years ago.
It covered safety, emergencies, navigation, weather, communication, laws, right of ways, markers, and required gear & equipment. Think it was 6 or 10 weeks.
Passed a test —- and got a Coast Guard certification card.
Wife gets mad when we enter Wal-Mart or a grocery store —-
I just pull the card out of my wallet, flash it at the doors —- and they open automatically.
Best, Fred
OK I feel a little fishy and will bite .. Wife gets mad when we enter Wal-Mart or a grocery store —-
I just pull the card out of my wallet, flash it at the doors —- and they open automatically.
(https://alantani.com/gallery/35/17471_03_11_21_2_19_53_357481745.jpeg)
Yeah, I'm trying to figure that one out, too. ???
Look at like with a boat operators card and $5.00 you can get a cup of coffee at Starbucks.
Who in the world wastes money buying coffee at Starbucks in this day & age? ???
A lot of people with more $ than brains.
My uncle was a senior partner in the largest accounting firm in Seattle, he told me to buy stock in a small coffee company that were clients, I bought $200 worth and now it is worth far more than I paid. I wish I would have listened to him when he told me to invest in Microsoft. Oh well, my investing has always been buy high, sell low.
Quote from: Midway Tommy on January 13, 2024, 08:27:20 PMWho in the world wastes money buying coffee at Starbucks in this day & age? ???
My wife drinks Starbucks. If I start commenting on the price she could have a lot to say about my habits and hobbies. We all have our frivolities.
How many cups per reel?
I buy Starbucks Frapachino at Costco and pour some of each bottle in my coffee, prolly saves on excess amounts of $, fat and sugar.
Oregon, when I lived there, had NO sales tax and vehicle registration was once/2-years and still cheaper than the California registration once/year. My save money-crazy wife had us taking trips up there from the Bay Area, mainly so she could hit the Medford mall and enjoy no-tax shop-a-holism.
They prolly get their share of tax $ from high property taxes, though.
Plus thumb and back tax for everyone with thumbs and backs. We have a high state income tax too.
Can't believe I forgot about that. One year I worked in Oregon, Washington and Alaska. Oregon really got me. Overall I prefer the way they run the State compared to California.
Ben Dover and Ann Taket run our tax office.