Ive got a penn 105 c with some kind of plastic drag plates that Ive greased and tried everything else. I use it for surf fishing and it reels in smaller fish just fine but if I hook something big and I have twice and lost both because the drag tightens up by itself. Its way beyond annoying losing what could have been a sweet fish because of it ,so Im wondering if there is a way to fix it or is there a upgrade for it. Any help would be great cause Im frustrated with it THANKS ALOT
Those teflon (or whatever) drag washers just aren't any good. You can stick in Penn HT-100s and improve things considerably. I believe the right size is 006 155 or perhaps 006 060. Also, make sure the metal drag plates are in the correct order. The "eared" plate should not be on the top.
Greased Carbontex washers make a big difference. I also replaced the bushing with bearings on one of the reels and it made little, but noticeable difference in the smoothness of the reel. Bearing were not cheap though, but for a solid aluminum bodied frame, well worth it.
Thanks for the quick replys I have some of the ht 100s you speak of that I will try And any thing that makes a reel better like bearings are worth replacing no mater the price cheaper than a new reel unless you buy bocas :)
Your reel comes with teflon washers, it might not be easy for you to find the carbon fiber washers as a replacement, unless you cut your own.
Try not to put too much money into that reel, it is an ok reel but there is much better out there. With the money you would spend on a set of bearings, I would use it to get a nice used 650ss. You would have a much better reel that would be your friend for a long time.
Sal
Quote from: ppvj64 on December 11, 2014, 11:20:27 PM
Thanks for the quick replys I have some of the ht 100s you speak of that I will try And any thing that makes a reel better like bearings are worth replacing no mater the price cheaper than a new reel unless you buy bocas :)
I had to pull the bearing out and measure and then buy from Boca. It's an off size, so I bought 2-3 sets. I think they were $17 each plus shipping.
Im going to try the ht 100s and if they work good thats the way the reel will stay cause it is kind of a clunker. Ive used a 550ss in alaska for salmon years ago and I remember thinking this is one sweet reel so now I want to find the 650ss. THANKS AGAIN
Your 105 will be ok, I just didn't want you to drop money into it for new bearings, it just didn't make sense to me. You will need to clean it often, if you do that it should last. I have a couple on my boat, I let the kids use them. If they drop them in the ocean, I won't feel too bad ;D
Oh I understood very well thats why I use it for surf fishing, Because of alot of sand wrecks reels fast and theres got to be a cheaper bearing than boca for it? Id hope if not and I cant make the drag better than a better reels a coming. Ive already lost 2 big somethings because of the drag so a better reel cant hurt:)
I agree that a change to carbon fiber would be best but the drag still should not tighten up on a run. Here is the link to the schematic,
https://www.mysticparts.com/Assets/images/pennparts/schematics/105c.pdf (https://www.mysticparts.com/Assets/images/pennparts/schematics/105c.pdf) I would check the order of the eared and keyed washers. The top drag washer should be a round metal one. It could be corroded in place or binding in the spool, HTH Bob
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Hi Pete --
Echoing what others have already said -- change out the white Teflon washers to CFs lightly greased with Cal's or Shimano Drag Grease.
I personally would also change out the under spool Teflon thrust washer to Delrin.
Not change the bushings to bearings -- but if scored or bad, I would probably just part out the reel -- or leave it as is -- and just fish it as a back-up or spare for kids.
This reel already comes with SS drag washers -- eared one goes in #4 in the stack -- starting at the bottom and working up.
Also, I would do a complete cleaning and lube -- paying particular attention to the spool shaft for any corrosion or pitting. "0000" steel wool would clean this up quite nicely if needed.
It is a very decent reel, for what it was designed for.
Best,
Fred
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Hi Fred, do you have an extra spool and drag tension knob for the Penn 105C for sell? If so, I may be interested in buying it. I have a brother-in-law to be that I fixed his deceased father's reel, upgraded with bearings and new drags, but could use a new drag tension knob and possibly a new spool. Please let me know and I'll find out if he plans to fish it (which I hope so or my upgrades mean nothing.).
I cleaned and put in the drag correctly but I dont remember a washer between the spool and that little gear so thanks for another problem to check:)
Hi Pete --
Sometimes those are stuck to the underside of the spool -- and get lost when the spool is removed.
Nearly any Teflon, Delrin, resistex, asbestos, or similar washer will work. It is just to make the spool run smoother when drag is engaged -- and also to eliminate most of the wear on the underside of the aluminum spool.
That is what we are here for -- to discover more problems for you.😄😄😄😄
If you can't find one that fits -- let me know, and I will send one out to you at N/C.
Best,
Fred
Hi Bryan --
I have a couple of 105 spools with drag assemblies NIB -- without the drag knobs.
Part number 47-105 -- not sure if this is the same as the 105C?
If you need a drag knob, those are pretty universal -- and I likely have some -- but without a reel in hand to match it to -- it would just be a lame guess. Got hundreds, or more in the parts bins as used ones -- but you probably do also.
Let me know if you need this spool -- I'll send it up. It is the one in the pic above.
Best,
Fred
Quote from: ppvj64 on December 12, 2014, 02:42:29 PM
Oh I understood very well thats why I use it for surf fishing, Because of alot of sand wrecks reels fast and theres got to be a cheaper bearing than boca for it? Id hope if not and I cant make the drag better than a better reels a coming. Ive already lost 2 big somethings because of the drag so a better reel cant hurt:)
Pete, try here: http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=61.msg66#msg66
If Dawn doesn't have the washers, send me your address and I'll make you some on me.
Sal
Let me test it first and thanks for the offer
Finally figured out the problem took the drag apart degreased the plastic drag washers according to Mystic Reel Parts tutorial then after removing the spool I noticed that the little washer between spool and little sprocket was paper. Switched that for some ones I made out of some thin teflon like material and all seems to be working great ,nice and smooth. So thanks for all your help and teaching me alot more about reels :-) I got 3 more reels that need a cleaning and new drags so see you all soon
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Glad you got it sorted out to your satisfaction --
That is what this site is all about -- trying to help others learn about and work on their own reels.
Good work...
Best,
Fred
Very good, the next one will be easier ;)...and the next one...and the next one...and the next one...you get the picture ;) ;D
I love this site cause of the nice people and the top notch help all of you do. Ill be starting on a diawa line leveler but model number unknown so see ya all soon