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Title: Two recent purchases
Post by: jason_purdy on August 23, 2017, 12:00:30 AM
I just wanted to show a pair of recent purchases from my favorite auction site. First up, superior Italian craftsmanship-the Alcedo 2 C/S. This reel is destined for an older Fenwick in the pursuit of Smallmouth bass. Looking closely, there's an interesting swirl pattern to the paint.  A little cleaning and a quick service, and this gem is good to go!
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Post by: wailua boy on August 23, 2017, 12:04:25 AM
Interesting reel and thanks for posting.
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Post by: Benni3 on August 23, 2017, 12:05:20 AM
Very cool  :D
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Post by: Dominick on August 23, 2017, 12:09:01 AM
Bellissimo for the Italian reel.  Thanks for posting.  Dominick
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Post by: jason_purdy on August 23, 2017, 12:10:40 AM
This Olympic 81 doesn't look like it's ever been fished. The beautiful Ueno Seiko medallion clinched it for me. I don't think I'll fish this one-too shiny :D Cheers all!

-Jason
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Post by: jason_purdy on August 23, 2017, 12:12:39 AM
Dominick,

I was in Philly on Thursday and saw this poster. I had to snap a picture...
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Post by: Dominick on August 23, 2017, 01:41:16 AM
Yep!  It gave me a chuckle in the movie also. Dominick
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Post by: Tiddlerbasher on August 23, 2017, 08:59:40 AM
Jason that Olympic looks very similar to a Mitchell spinner.
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Post by: Gfish on August 23, 2017, 01:53:43 PM
Yeah. 'Cept for the 1/2 bail, looks like an older 300.
Gfish
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Post by: mo65 on August 23, 2017, 02:04:36 PM
   Interesting reels. 8)
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Post by: Tightlines667 on August 23, 2017, 04:01:08 PM
Great reels.  The smallest sized ones are particularly significant as they are considered to be the first 'microlight' reels produced.  Emphasis was on fishing for sport.  Overall quality is apparent.  I am still on the lookout for a good deal on one of these guys.

John
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Post by: happyhooker on August 24, 2017, 02:33:32 AM
Super nice old time spinning reels--enjoy 'em!

Frank
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Post by: Midway Tommy on August 24, 2017, 02:45:52 AM
Those Alcedos are nice reels. Not sure why but the blue ones always have that swirl pattern. Almost looks like marbling. If you ever decide to sell that Olympic 81 let me know. It's an interesting looking reel and I especially like that it has its original box.  :) 
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Post by: philaroman on August 24, 2017, 03:01:59 PM
DON'T USE OR TRY TO SERVICE THE OLYMPIC -- it's no better than the Mitchell it clones, but it's RARE!!!  If you pick the right moment when Japanese economy & reel speculation is on an upswing -- you can get several hundrd$$$!!!

I bought a near-mint green Ueno Seiko half-bail Centaure clone (Model 84?) for $35 & sold it  back to Japan for $200...  if it were completely unused w/ all the extras -- $500+
Title: Re: Two recent purchases
Post by: Midway Tommy on August 24, 2017, 06:09:05 PM
Quote from: philaroman on August 24, 2017, 03:01:59 PM
DON'T USE OR TRY TO SERVICE THE OLYMPIC -- it's no better than the Mitchell it clones, but it's RARE!!!  If you pick the right moment when Japanese economy & reel speculation is on an upswing -- you can get several hundrd$$$!!!

I bought a near-mint green Ueno Seiko half-bail Centaure clone (Model 84?) for $35 & sold it  back to Japan for $200...  if it were completely unused w/ all the extras -- $500+


Those Japanese dudes seem to have deep pockets every now and are insane about what they'll pay for a '50s or '60s inferior quality clone, but that varies from day to day, too. Way, way more than I'd ever pay, that's for darn sure!
Title: Re: Two recent purchases
Post by: philaroman on August 24, 2017, 08:19:04 PM
beg to differ -- the Japanese collectors indeed have deep pockets, but what they go nuts for is usually good-quality (Abu reels, Phillipson glass rods, etc.)  very few domestic reels are of interest to them & the few that are ain't so inferior:

the earliest Ueno Seiko Olympic Model 81, 82, 83, 84, 85 are really nice French clones & rare in good condition...  maybe materials are not the greatest, but workmanship is excellent

some later Japan-made Olympic LTD reels can be OK for use, but most are quite common & not collection-worthy

the late 70's Korean Olympics are pure crap -- good for ballast...  not to insult the Koreans -- they make some really nice stuff, now, just like Taiwan, but they all started out making cheap crap for Western markets, like post-war Japan...  that's what makes late 50's Ueno Seiko unusual -- NOT CRAP!
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Post by: foakes on August 24, 2017, 08:37:26 PM
Agree with Roman --

A friend of mine, who resells estates -- has a connection in Japan.  They give him their credit card, along with authorization to buy for them.

He fills a overseas storage container full of particular types of Levis, Hot Wheels, fishing gear, sports memorabilia, sports jackets, and military historical uniforms.  Then it gets shipped out of Long Beach, destined for Japan -- and these fellows resell the items in a retail store.

They know their market well.

Twice, they came to my shop -- spent a half day each trip -- just combing through baitcasting rods, some reels, and other tackle.  The prices paid were possibly twice or three times what I could get for the items domestically.

And like a lot of my stuff -- it was of no interest locally, anyway -- just considered old school and boring.

The Japanese market can, and does get hot and cold -- but like the stock market -- if you keep in it -- the gains are solid over the long run.

Best,

Fred
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Post by: jason_purdy on August 24, 2017, 11:48:28 PM
Sounds like I got lucky-I appreciate all the information gents.

-Jason
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Post by: Midway Tommy on August 25, 2017, 05:00:25 AM
Quote from: philaroman on August 24, 2017, 08:19:04 PM
beg to differ -- the Japanese collectors indeed have deep pockets, but what they go nuts for is usually good-quality (Abu reels, Phillipson glass rods, etc.)  very few domestic reels are of interest to them & the few that are ain't so inferior:

the earliest Ueno Seiko Olympic Model 81, 82, 83, 84, 85 are really nice French clones & rare in good condition...  maybe materials are not the greatest, but workmanship is excellent

some later Japan-made Olympic LTD reels can be OK for use, but most are quite common & not collection-worthy

the late 70's Korean Olympics are pure crap -- good for ballast...  not to insult the Koreans -- they make some really nice stuff, now, just like Taiwan, but they all started out making cheap crap for Western markets, like post-war Japan...  that's what makes late 50's Ueno Seiko unusual -- NOT CRAP!

Geez, no reason to get all bent out of shape, you just agreed with most of my previous comment. Me: "Those Japanese dudes seem to have deep pockets" &  "for a '50s or '60s inferior quality clone." You: "the Japanese collectors indeed have deep pockets" & "maybe materials are not the greatest."

Many excellent condition Japanese made reels have been going back to Japan at high prices just like many Italian made reels are going back to Italy, French reels going back to France, German reels to Germany, etc. I have personally witnessed, and been part of, those interactions, and, I never said or insinuated anything about any reels being "CRAP!".  

Just because I limit what I'm willing to spend on a shelf fish reel, don't take it personally.