Reel Repair by Alan Tani

Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn 99/Jigmaster/SurfMaster/Squidder Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: mhc on March 19, 2019, 12:42:20 PM

Title: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: mhc on March 19, 2019, 12:42:20 PM
The Cortez Conversions 'Classic Squidder' in 146 size is one of my favorite reels - thanks Tom! When Randy Pauly organised a couple of XN spools from Tiburon for me, my first thought was an XN Classic Squidder would be great. Tom has the side plates to fit Tiburon's frame on his to do list but I really like the profile of the classics so I decided to have a shot at making an XN classic frame. The first step was to bend a piece of 32 x 10mm 6061 aluminium to size - it's a bit tighter than the minimum bending radius recommended for bending 10mm sheet but I seem to have gotten away with bending the narrow flat bar.

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/7995_19_03_19_4_54_50_273281797.jpeg)

10mm thick gave me room to allow for uneven bending and distortion of the bar - checking the piece is bent enough to cover the profile of Tom's frames;

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/7995_19_03_19_4_55_07_273292293.jpeg)

Then square it up a bit on the belt sander;

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/7995_19_03_19_4_55_32_273281004.jpeg)

Mark the inside diameter;

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/7995_19_03_19_4_55_36_273311510.jpeg)

And start sanding with a 38mm dia sanding drum;

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/7995_19_03_19_4_55_51_273321152.jpeg)

I checked how things were tracking as I went - still well inside the frame dia;

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/7995_19_03_19_4_55_58_27333685.jpeg)

and still close to square;

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/7995_19_03_19_4_56_20_273342302.jpeg)

I switched to a 50mm drum when I could fit it in the frame;

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/7995_19_03_19_4_56_42_27335861.jpeg)

I'm not going to say this process was quick - it took hours. I kept the drums wet with RP7 to help keep the dust down - and building up on the drill table  ;D

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/7995_19_03_19_4_56_54_273361994.jpeg)

I'll post more photos soon and maybe try to focus on one project at at time  ::) ;D

Mike

Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: steelfish on March 19, 2019, 06:16:34 PM
definitely following this   :)
Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: Darin Crofton on March 19, 2019, 06:54:50 PM
I've got my popcorn... ;D
Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: Dominick on March 19, 2019, 07:09:52 PM
Bring it on.  Dominick
Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: Swami805 on March 19, 2019, 08:46:51 PM
Yup I'll be watching,this looks good
Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: redsetta on March 19, 2019, 10:51:48 PM
Quotedefinitely following this  :)
Yep, me too!
Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: mhc on March 20, 2019, 09:27:57 AM
Thanks for the encouragement guys - it's still a fair way off being finished but it is a bit more advanced. When I made the drilling jig for the underhead surfmaster & squidder frame spacers and stands I included a template for the cortez squidder plate hole pattern at one end. Before drilling the side plate holes in the job, it was sanded to just under 1mm short of the final dia to allow for final sanding and finishing (the stops in the jig were located to allow for that);

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/7995_20_03_19_1_06_40_27348605.jpeg)

And the jig assembled ready to drill the screw holes;

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/7995_20_03_19_1_06_59_273491999.jpeg)

To help with shaping the outside of the frame, I made a couple of 2mm stainless templates of the Cortez frame to act as a filing / sanding guide for each end.
Marking the shape;

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/7995_20_03_19_1_07_32_273501978.jpeg)

No project is complete without a bit of chain drilling  :D

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/7995_20_03_19_1_08_23_273522311.jpeg)

Checking the fit on Tom's frame as I went;

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/7995_20_03_19_1_08_01_27351109.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/7995_20_03_19_1_09_31_273542352.jpeg)

And screwed to the piece ready for filing and sanding;

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/7995_20_03_19_1_09_03_273531635.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/7995_20_03_19_1_10_20_273562107.jpeg)

And getting close to the final shape.

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/7995_20_03_19_1_10_06_273552196.jpeg)

Next is to drill a few hole for the cut-out sections.

Mike



Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: Rothmar2 on March 20, 2019, 11:42:45 AM
Next level work Mike!
Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on March 20, 2019, 11:54:53 AM
Inspiring stuff Mike 8)
Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: mrwilson99 on March 20, 2019, 03:53:07 PM
 :o
Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: Fishy247 on March 20, 2019, 04:36:16 PM
QuoteQuote

definitely following this  Smiley
Yep, me too!

Me three! This is too cool....
Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: mo65 on March 20, 2019, 05:09:18 PM
Bravo!
Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: mhc on March 23, 2019, 10:05:33 AM
Thanks again guys. There has been a bit more progress with this - the next step was to mark the hole locations for the cut-out sections;

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/7995_23_03_19_1_11_49_273651569.jpeg)

To 'mill' the slot for the foot, I tried using a 10 mm carbide burr in my drill press with the piece mounted on one of those cheap cross slide tables available on line. I didn't take photos of the process but the results were about as good as you would expect from a cheap press and cross-slide. I had drilled the bulk of the material in the middle before trying it - the bottom of the cuts were 'OK' but the edges wandered a fair bit;

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/7995_23_03_19_1_12_12_273661543.jpeg)

The slot cleaned up with files and the holes to mount the foot tapped for 8-32 screws;

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/7995_23_03_19_1_12_12_2736653.jpeg)

Test fitting with one of Tom's reel feet. Tom had sent me this foot to use on my underhead 501 stand but I ended up making a stainless one for that;

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/7995_23_03_19_1_12_36_27368395.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/7995_23_03_19_1_12_37_273691956.jpeg)

Trial assembly with the spool - after a bit more filing and sanding;

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/7995_23_03_19_1_12_49_273701371.jpeg)

Another test fit after a bit more filing and sanding;

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/7995_23_03_19_1_13_08_273712014.jpeg)

It's getting close but there is still a bit more fi....... never mind.  :)

Looking forward to anodizing it soon - I'll probably stay with clear like the plates.

Mike




Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: Rothmar2 on March 23, 2019, 12:01:24 PM
Quote from: mhc on March 23, 2019, 10:05:33 AM

It's getting close but there is still a bit more fi....... never mind



:D :D :D

Actually I shouldn't laugh, but that is one sentiment I can relate to.

Is going to be a work of art when finished!
Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: mhc on March 23, 2019, 12:51:26 PM
Quote from: Rothmar2 on March 23, 2019, 12:01:24 PM

Actually I shouldn't laugh, but that is one sentiment I can relate to.


HaHa - yeah, I'm blaming you for showing me how it can be done if you take your time. As you said the other day - at least aluminium sands easier than stainless!
Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: Alto Mare on March 23, 2019, 12:53:08 PM
What a transformation Mike! I have a feeling you could make anything you want, just by using hand tools.
This is crazy talent.



Sal
Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: broadway on March 23, 2019, 07:44:17 PM
Mike,  Do you practice wizardry on the weekends?  You're a sorcerer with metal and probably any other material too.
Really nice, precise work!
I can't help but wonder what you would come up with if you started from scratch and built your own reel.  It's very difficult to sorta reverse engineer like your doing in making the parts match up with Tom's plates.
I love Tom's plates, so don't think I'm knocking them for a second, just wondering.
Thanks for showing how things are done,
Dom
Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: Reel 224 on March 23, 2019, 08:40:06 PM
MCH; You got that right. Stainless is hard to work with as far as tooling goes. If and when I get the time I'm going to setup my work shop in the basement with my son so I can start milling things. I have a two piece Gaff I am working on fabricating as a flying gaff. Some other gun work with my son Anthony witch is wanting to get into some gun smith fab work.

eventually Anthony is going to work the shop, I'm getting to old and crippled up anymore to do the heavy work.

Joe   
Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: mhc on March 24, 2019, 11:27:31 AM
Quote from: Alto Mare on March 23, 2019, 12:53:08 PM
I have a feeling you could make anything you want, just by using hand tools.

Quote from: broadway on March 23, 2019, 07:44:17 PM
I can't help but wonder what you would come up with if you started from scratch and built your own reel.

Thanks Sal & Dom, It would be nice to be able to make a complete reel and while it's true a lot of the basic parts can be made with simple tools, making precise components like side plates and spools need precision and control that is way beyond my crude capabilities, unfortunately!  :(  
I'll need to leave that to grown-up professionals with the expertise and machining equipment needed, people here like Tom H, Alan C  and of course Robert Janssen, who have all made complete reels.

Quote from: Reel 224 on March 23, 2019, 08:40:06 PM
If and when I get the time I'm going to setup my work shop in the basement with my son so I can start milling things.    

Sounds good Joe, I would love a lathe and milling machine but can't seem to justify buying them (and the tooling) to experiment on a couple of reels a year.  :-\

Mike

Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: Reel 224 on March 24, 2019, 11:47:10 AM
Yes the expense is high if you don't have work for it.

Joe
Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: mhc on May 19, 2019, 12:31:05 PM
The latest results of the DIY anodizing process I'm using has given me enough confidence to give this frame a 1 MIL thick clear coat to match the siver side plates that 'were' on my Cortez Conversions Classic Squidder 146;

(https://alantani.com/gallery/28/7995_19_05_19_3_59_14_280191703.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/28/7995_19_05_19_3_59_00_280181691.jpeg)

These plates have the 'one piece dog and post' double dogs and Bryan Young five stack carbon drags installed;

(https://alantani.com/gallery/28/7995_19_05_19_3_57_36_280171022.jpeg)

And the finished reel ready to spool;

(https://alantani.com/gallery/28/7995_19_05_19_4_03_17_280222358.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/28/7995_19_05_19_4_03_14_28021248.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/28/7995_19_05_19_4_02_27_280201273.jpeg)

That just about wraps up this project for now - unless I think of a way to use the CC 146 frame.

Mike




Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on May 19, 2019, 12:41:35 PM
Mike - mucho applause - fantastic work 8)
Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: Swami805 on May 19, 2019, 01:20:15 PM
It looks spot on! Matches the plates to a TEE. What a collection of one-off reels you've built,waiting for the next episode! Thanks
Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: Reel 224 on May 19, 2019, 02:26:24 PM
Nice clean work and you showed us all that you can do this without expensive equipment.

Bravo!

Joe/Off the Hook Rod & Reel
Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: Donnyboat on May 19, 2019, 03:21:08 PM
Great work Mike, thanks for sharing it with us, cheers Don.
Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: Maxed Out on May 19, 2019, 08:08:54 PM

Congrats on your anodizing success Mike !!

Love the extra narrow cortez squidder. It's a home run !!

Ted
Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: broadway on May 19, 2019, 11:01:38 PM
Beautiful work, Mike.  I'm looking for a flaw, but can't seem to find one. 
Like Sal has mentioned... Sure would love to see you build one from scratch. You certainly have the skills.
Sure can't wait to see a fish on the other end.
Super impressive,
Dom
Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: Dominick on May 20, 2019, 12:14:27 AM
Nice work Mike.  You've created a beauty.  Dominick
Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: Alto Mare on May 20, 2019, 01:20:12 AM
I have almost all of the colors of Tom' Squidders, yours will be hard to beat.
Amazing talent Mike!

Sal
Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: milne on May 20, 2019, 08:33:28 AM
Fantastic result Mike, I found this really interesting.
Thanks for sharing.


Col
Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: Captain64-200 on May 20, 2019, 10:01:40 AM
That's a real (reel ;D ) beauty , silver color enhance the quality of your work , bravo !
Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: Rothmar2 on May 20, 2019, 11:13:08 AM
Fantastic result for your efforts Mike, stunning!
Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: mhc on May 21, 2019, 11:22:58 AM
Thanks guys, and thanks to Randy P for organising the XN spools with Tiburon and thanks to Tom for designing his Cotez Classic series in the first place - it's a lot easier to follow a proven design. It still took a fair bit of time though, as Chris has hinted at but I think it was worth the effort and I can't wait to try it - it has jumped the queue ahead of the other reels to test.

Mike
Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: Brandon G on April 18, 2020, 08:52:02 PM
This is amazing! Great job!
Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: mhc on April 19, 2020, 11:02:51 AM
Thanks, and welcome to the forum.

Mike
Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: Surfrat on May 13, 2020, 03:41:34 PM
I am so jealous.  ;D Fantastic work! Really stunning!
Title: Re: XN Cortez Classic Squidder
Post by: Decker on May 13, 2020, 04:27:30 PM
Santa's workshop!   ;D