Title: Re: Strictly Come Casting with Alain Storey
Post by: willybendit on February 14, 2011, 01:01:21 AM
Hi All yes that is me tournament casting or trying to with a century wr300 blank 225 yards done now after 230 yards regards and tightlines Alain
Title: Re: Strictly Come Casting with Alain Storey
Post by: Bryan Young on February 14, 2011, 05:36:00 AM
225 yards? Wow. I'm lucky to get 100 yards consistently. If you are in California or come to California, can you give lessons? Not the falling part. I already do that myself.
Title: Re: Strictly Come Casting with Alain Storey
Post by: wallacewt on February 14, 2011, 01:05:48 PM
willi what did you lasso behind you.cmon willi
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Post by: Roger on February 14, 2011, 03:01:43 PM
Willy. didn't mean to make fun of you personally but it was funny.......... (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/Rooster5101/funny%20stuff/Funny%20Stuff%20Gifs/rotfl.gif)
Title: Re: Strictly Come Casting with Alain Storey
Post by: Alto Mare on February 14, 2011, 05:39:31 PM
Willy would probably laugh at us if we would try to cast over 220 yards. We should have more bloopers!
Title: Re: Strictly Come Casting with Alain Storey
Post by: alantani on February 14, 2011, 07:41:01 PM
during the winter months, our local groundfish/rockfish season is closed for boat fishermen, but it is still open for fishing from shore. no one here does this long distance casting. no one. such a technique would open up an entire fishery during the winter months. summer, too! 200 yards, gentlemen! that is the distance of two football fields. i commonly fish within 200 yards of shore with the boat. something to consider. so yes, alain, it would be great to have you come over and teach this. it could be HUGE! um, like bryan, i can do the falling down part already! ;D
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Post by: kamuwela on February 14, 2011, 08:10:03 PM
200 yds i bet he could hit the 40 fathom ledge on the west side of oahu. sheeez for that mater he could hit the 1000 fathom for pelagic's down kona side.
Title: Re: Strictly Come Casting with Alain Storey
Post by: willybendit on February 14, 2011, 10:36:48 PM
Hi All i only took the tournament casting up last year i think it was my third tounament i normaly use daiwa fishing rods AWB 129 Amorphus whisker and ABU mag Elite reels i have cast a 150g lead weight 230 yards using this fishing set up i was asked if i would like to use a full tounament century WR300 rod on my next cast i said ok give it us here ill have go with it Boy What a beast these rod have been cast 300+ yards not by me what happend was the lead weight dug into the ground as i turned to power the lead away im 6ft tall and weigh 18stone and as you can see it pulled me off balance giving every one the best laugh of the year take a look on you -tube you,ll find lots of pictures & clips of the Pendulum cast ill be out this year ill try and post some more pictures of me casting if you would like to see them you really need to thank Mr A Tani for posting this hope you all had a laugh tightlines Alain
Title: Re: Strictly Come Casting with Alain Storey
Post by: alantani on February 14, 2011, 10:43:07 PM
you can thank your friend martyn for "droppin' the dime" on you.
Title: Re: Strictly Come Casting with Alain Storey
Post by: willybendit on February 14, 2011, 10:49:07 PM
Hi Alan Do you mean Martyn from malton ill kick some butt if thats the man Ha Ha
Title: Re: Strictly Come Casting with Alain Storey
Post by: alantani on February 14, 2011, 11:36:57 PM
in our little slice of heaven (california) we do some pretty neat things, but this is not the center of the universe. no one actually fishes with a long distance casting technique. it would open up alot of water. alan
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Post by: Keith K on February 15, 2011, 01:38:32 AM
Aaaaaahahaha!!!!
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Post by: Dominick on February 15, 2011, 04:53:27 AM
Willy: Is there somewhere on the internet where I can learn how to get 200 yd distance out of a surf pole. I have surf fished in Cabo and it is great fun. Gettin out beyond the 3 and 4th wave is the key to catching Crevalle and Rooster fish. I would really like to know some of the secrets. Dominick
Title: Re: Strictly Come Casting with Alain Storey
Post by: broadway on February 15, 2011, 05:48:28 AM
Hey Alain,
That was some funny stuff, but in all fairness I've seen people do that while casting an 8 and bait off a jetty... now that ain't pretty... oh yeah it was me! I didn't have any skin left on my right knee and a contusion on my hip for a month. However, when I did it people weren't laughing they wee pickin' my #### out of the rocks... ya live and learn... I was twelve and haven't done it since. When you flew back it looked like you hooked up with a pick up truck while he was leaving the tournament ;D Dom
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Post by: willybendit on February 15, 2011, 05:54:26 AM
Hi Dominick see if you can find a book called long range casting by paul kerry over in the uk we have monthly fishing magazines that show you how cast its not hard its technique balance And power all rolled into one smooth cast that can reach a long distance send over your email address ill see if i can find the basics to get you started the tackle req beach fishing rod 12/13ft small casting reel ABU 6500 0.31 main line 0.75 shock leader 150g lead wheight tightlines Alain ive just been on you-tube type in ( Tournament casting ) ground cast Fundamentals this is where you start tournament casting can become additive
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Post by: Alto Mare on February 15, 2011, 01:32:15 PM
That is pretty cool, but Dominick, if the west coast is anything like the north east, I would recommend that we stick with our fishing style. I do a little surf fishing around mid november when stripers are running, boaters like to get closer to the jettys also, with that type of cast we could kill someone or sink their boat. At over 200yds. that weight is coming at you like a bullet!
Title: Re: Strictly Come Casting with Alain Storey
Post by: Bryan Young on February 15, 2011, 04:35:54 PM
Quote from: willybendit on February 15, 2011, 05:54:26 AM Hi Dominick see if you can find a book called long range casting by paul kerry over in the uk we have monthly fishing magazines that show you how cast its not hard its technique balance And power all rolled into one smooth cast that can reach a long distance send over your email address ill see if i can find the basics to get you started the tackle req beach fishing rod 12/13ft small casting reel ABU 6500 0.31 main line 0.75 shock leader 150g lead wheight tightlines Alain ive just been on you-tube type in ( Tournament casting ) ground cast Fundamentals this is where you start tournament casting can become additive
Can you post it for everyone? I've been watching YouTube again and am amazed with the Brits casting 150+ yards on a spinner as well, and am facinated with casting surf rods since I was a kid. Best case for me was 100 yards using 50# test, 30# lead line, 5 oz lead, on a 13' Fenwick 1698 (???) surf rod. If I can learn to get it out there an extra 50 yards, wow, the possibilities...
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Post by: kamuwela on February 15, 2011, 04:38:31 PM
yeah bryan never mind ulua, you could cast for ono down milolii
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Post by: willybendit on February 15, 2011, 05:30:54 PM
Hi Bryan if you can cast 100 yards with the tackle you used im sure you`ll do 130/150 yards with the grear we use we have weight classes 125g (4 oz) 0.28 main line 150g (5.3 oz) 0.31 main line & 175 g (6.2 oz) 0.35 main line i cast the 150g weight with 0.31 main line and 0.75 shockleader shockleader MUST be used at all times now thread the leader through your rod To join the main line to the leader you heat the end of the leader up with a match to form a blob then you twist your main line down the leader 4 times and bring the Tag end up to the blob form a loop and trap with your finger and thum now twist 4 times inside the loop and wet the line pull to form a knott now slide upto the Blob now pull very tight trim the loose tag off now put your reel onto your rod wind the leader knott to one side of the spool and put 4 turns on then run back across you should now have 8 turns on leader on your spool in a criss cross now cut the leader off a foot above your reel now you can put your lead weight on i use a uni knott ill try and post pictures with a step by step instruction if its needed regards Alain
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Post by: Alto Mare on February 15, 2011, 05:44:23 PM
Good idea to post some pictures Willy, you lost me the same way I got lost as I was trying to learn square dancing. ???
Title: Re: Strictly Come Casting with Alain Storey
Post by: alantani on February 15, 2011, 05:52:18 PM
alain, see what you started? ;D
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Post by: Dominick on February 15, 2011, 07:50:35 PM
Okay all you surf fishing fans. I went to our old friend Google and asked about surf casting. It came up with this pretty good tutorial. http://www.veoh.com/browse/videos/category/entertainment/watch/v14951073rRb8Sr2x This is a good start. The instructor gives the basics of equipment. I thought he did a very good job. Dominick
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Post by: broadway on February 15, 2011, 09:52:14 PM
Hey Alto,
I didn't think of all the boats I could pay back for their kindness during a bunker/ striper blitz in the spring from the jetty... I'm going to Dominick's casting instructions page to figure this "art of beaning boats thing" out... I'm sure cooler heads will prevail ::) ;D Dom
Title: Re: Strictly Come Casting with Alain Storey
Post by: Alto Mare on February 15, 2011, 11:42:06 PM
Dom, I'm glad I moved my boat on the chesapeake.
Title: Re: Strictly Come Casting with Alain Storey
Post by: Bryan Young on February 16, 2011, 01:10:28 AM
Alan, I'm thinking of trying for Halibut from the surf at Santa Cruz Harbor. They should be within striking distance early in the morning.
Title: Re: Strictly Come Casting with Alain Storey
Post by: willybendit on February 16, 2011, 03:27:22 AM
Hi All Pescachaser that clip is old school you will lean nothing go back to youtube and type in Tournament casting you need to watch Breakaway tackle then come down look for long cast fundamentals start here how many can tie the leader knot we will go back you will need spool 0.31 or 15lbs mainline & a spool of 0.75 or 80lbs leader line now heat up the end of the leader with a match to form a Blob then twist your main line 4 times round the leader bring the tag end back upto the Blob to form a loop trap with finger and thumb then twist 4 times inside the loop wet the line and pull tight slowly You Should have a nice neat knot now hold the leader in your left hand and your main line in your right and pull the knot upto the Blob and pull real tight trim off the tag end I only wish you lads lived near England id pop over anyone stuck email me (alain@dash.fsbusiness.co.uk) once we get going ill Show / teach you how to tie Fishing end rigs that will pull a donkey out of a mud hole Ha Ha Regards Alain i hope to show pictures later on today
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Post by: Bryan Young on February 16, 2011, 06:55:16 AM
Check out this. Show many different styles in one video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Bp-eCOv0Wg
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Post by: dustin.brace on February 16, 2011, 07:11:25 AM
Alain, it's a good thing that you live in the UK; I think that my wife would come after you if you lived in the US. This looks like my kind of thing. Thanks for getting us all interested!
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Post by: Bryan Young on February 16, 2011, 07:22:50 AM
Hi Alain, okay, I got it up to
Quote from: willybendit on February 16, 2011, 03:27:22 AMyou will need spool 0.31 or 15lbs mainline & a spool of 0.75 or 80lbs leader line now heat up the end of the leader with a match to form a Blob then twist your main line 4 times round the leader bring the tag end back upto the Blob to form a loop trap with finger and thumb.
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Post by: willybendit on February 16, 2011, 01:54:48 PM
Hi Bryan i hope to post pictures when you see them you will cotton on I Hope Ha Ha like tying a uni knot tightlines Alain
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Post by: willybendit on February 16, 2011, 02:00:27 PM
Hi Dustin would your wife come after me with love in her eye`s Or a dagger in her hand by the time we get through it will be a dagger just wait until we start converting reels lots to teach before then tightlines Alain Here we are pictures of tying a leader knot
Now criss cross back over the spool you should have 8 turns on the spool
Title: Re: Strictly Come Casting with Alain Storey
Post by: dustin.brace on February 17, 2011, 02:44:11 PM
Alain, What kind of reel do you suggest? I am assuming that what I have isn't quite ideal...
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Post by: willybendit on February 17, 2011, 09:10:44 PM
Hi Dustin i have ABU 6500 ct mag elites the green ones also the blue elites these are the ones that we convert into full tournament reels I will post pictures as and when we are ready all you should be doing now is making sure you can tye the leader knot What reel do you have hope not a shimano tiagra 50 nice little baitcaster will do for now as you progress then you can go for a better reel you can use a spinning reel think you call them overheads ? and conventionals we call them spinning and multiplyers thanks for your interest from the pictures i posted you trim off the lefthand tag end of the line tightlines Alain if there is anything your not sure about then email me (alain@dash.fsbusiness.co.uk) and ill get straight back to you that goes for anyone
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Post by: dustin.brace on February 18, 2011, 06:37:19 AM
Well I have several reels. Penn 555, 500, 200, 140, 26. I also have some junky spinning reels. Do you think that any of the Penns will work?
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Post by: willybendit on February 18, 2011, 04:08:50 PM
Hi dustin im not sure on the penn reels as i dont no what the model numbers are in the uk we use penn 515 525 whats the biggest spinning reel you have as long as it holds 200+ yards of 15lbs line that will do for now full it up and tye a 75/80lbs leader on you need 6 turns of leader on the spool put the reel on your rod thread the leader through the rod eyes and come back down and cut off at the reel
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Post by: Bryan Young on February 18, 2011, 05:35:43 PM
Dustin, your Penn 500 will do. You will probaby need to use low friction lube on the bushings. I know guys tossing 120 yard with these reels. Will not travel as far as reels with actual bearings, but you can get a good distance with it.
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Post by: franky on February 18, 2011, 08:57:15 PM
Quote from: BryanYoung on February 18, 2011, 05:35:43 PM Dustin, your Penn 500 will do. I know guys tossing 120 yard with these reels. Will not travel as far as reels with actual bearings, but you can get a good distance with it.
Yes, I will attest to that! :)
I believe the Penn 500 is refferred to as the jigmaster reel. Here in Hawaii, lots of people use that reel with 40 lb test mainline. We mount the reel on a medium heavy or a heavy stiff 13 foot surf casting rod and use a 6 ounce bank lead. That puppy will travel 120 yards. ;D
Dustin, give it a try! :) but becareful not to snag something on your back swing. :D
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Post by: willybendit on February 18, 2011, 09:06:18 PM
Hi Franky are you into casting Dustin are we all sorted now ill have to go and find my old fixed spool reel not used in 30 odd years now and show you how to set the spool and leader ready for casting Bryan have you got the leader knot sorted the six ounce lead will do fine for now
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Post by: franky on February 19, 2011, 12:47:12 AM
Yeah, i actually enjoy casting. Lots of times, I would just go to the harbor at night and throw some lead....no bait, no hook...only the lead. A lot of the guys fishing at the harbor are just watching me throw lead and some are thinking... :-\
I tell them...forget the fishing, this casting thing is pretty addicting. Its kinda like hitting a golf ball right on the sweet spot of the club. The feel....the sound....the smoothness! :o
Don't get me wrong, I am no way hitting two football field lengths, but I know I can go at least one goal post to the next goal post.
A few years back, this guy Don B. (great tournament distance caster) taught me some of the techniques for the pendulum cast. I tried it and had some difficulty especially with the bigger outfits (Penn HLW 113 or the Newell 646 with 60 or 80 lb test line and 9 or 10 ounce lead).
I think if you're using the small mitchell tournament reels with 12 lb test mainline spliced to a 80 lb test shock leader using a 4 or a 5 ounce lead, it would be easier to control the pendulum cast as you are coming around with that huge arch.
With the bigger gear, I tend to use a hatteras ??? cast. Kind of like a modified pendulum. Rather than swinging forward and letting the lead come all the way back and then start the huge rotation, I would just swing back about two o clock and just come forward. Oh, and don't forget to add the ol "Ki Yah! >:(" just before you cast.
Anyway, with a well maintained reel, thanks to this wonderful site, it makes the whole casting experience.... :o :)
Recently, I have been busy with work. I have been wanting to go to the football field with a tape measure to get actual measurements since I have applied the TSI lube on my bearings. Its been over a month and I have not re-lubed the bearings. I want to see the results of how the lube holds up. I did not forget, I will keep everyone posted. Wish me luck, I hope I don't snag anything on my back swing. :D
Title: Re: Strictly Come Casting with Alain Storey
Post by: dustin.brace on February 19, 2011, 06:55:32 AM
I actually have a 525 Mag, so I will give that a try. I have no idea where to try it out though, the beach is a place I suppose but I dont know of anyone in SoCal that actually does tournament casting.
Title: Re: Strictly Come Casting with Alain Storey
Post by: Bryan Young on February 19, 2011, 09:56:53 PM
Sorry, I've had some computer troubles. I haven't had the chance to try the knot again, but will this weekend.
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Post by: CapeFish on February 20, 2011, 08:03:11 PM
We mainly use anything from a Daiwa Sl30 to a Trinidad 50 for surfcasting in South Africa. The general setup will be something like a Daiwa SL50 or a torium 30 loaded with about 40lb line (if you are going for big fish you will spool it with around 500m-600m spectra for backing and 200m 40lb topshot and 1mm leader). There are people here that can cast Trinidad 50 with 1.5mm windon leader and 0.6mm mainline very far. Perhaps even close to 120m. Namibian anglers fish with similar tackle from the shore.
we fish with the reel at the bottom, generally fitting trigger winches to our rods. Rods are stiff and can cast an 8oz lead with mackerel head
Title: Re: Strictly Come Casting with Alain Storey
Post by: Bryan Young on March 07, 2011, 02:08:29 AM
This is the kind of fishing that I grew up doing from age 14.
http://benwongtv.com/episodes.php?id=89
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Post by: Alto Mare on March 07, 2011, 02:20:12 AM
Nice video Bryan, was that you sleeping with the rod?