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Spinning Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Shimano => Topic started by: Eldops on December 10, 2014, 12:52:17 PM

Title: Shimano bailarm gap to rotor
Post by: Eldops on December 10, 2014, 12:52:17 PM
I want to ask, when i see at my stella 2013 there's a little gap between rotor and bailarm, is that normal or just my stella?, the gap makes the bailarm a little bit shaky, is that normal?, sorry for my bad english, hope u understand
Title: Re: Shimano bailarm gap to rotor
Post by: Eldops on December 10, 2014, 01:14:39 PM
Anyone?
Title: Re: Shimano bailarm gap to rotor
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on December 10, 2014, 02:26:58 PM
Can you take a couple of photos to show the 'problem'?
Title: Re: Shimano bailarm gap to rotor
Post by: Eldops on December 10, 2014, 03:03:34 PM
I think its not the problem because its not (yet) make any trouble when fishing, i just need to make sure, because the seller told me all shimano stella 2013 bailarm has that gap, i just want someone who use same stella 2013 tell me if their reels have the same gap like me or just me
Title: Re: Shimano bailarm gap to rotor
Post by: foakes on December 10, 2014, 03:16:19 PM
Hi eldops --

Please post some pictures so everyone will understand accurately your issue.

We are here to help you -- but it is more transparent, and educational for others -- past, present, and future -- if photos are included.

This helps not just you -- but everyone.

Thanks,

Fred
Title: Re: Shimano bailarm gap to rotor
Post by: Wolli on December 10, 2014, 07:01:02 PM
there is no gab between Bail Arm and Rotor.
Never seen in several reels up to 30000 i had for sevice.



Title: Re: Shimano bailarm gap to rotor
Post by: Tightlines667 on December 10, 2014, 08:15:17 PM
Quote from: Wolli on December 10, 2014, 07:01:02 PM
there is no gab between Bail Arm and Rotor.
Never seen in several reels up to 30000 i had for sevice.





Wow!  You serviced 30,000 reels?  JK :)
Title: Re: Shimano bailarm gap to rotor
Post by: Eldops on December 10, 2014, 09:25:59 PM
Can you spot the difference?, i just put a very very little push on second pic from each side of bailarm
Is that normal? Because i dont find this on my cheaper reels
Title: Re: Shimano bailarm gap to rotor
Post by: Eldops on December 10, 2014, 09:42:50 PM
Maybe this "issue" is more like this

Copied from alanhawk : "Unacceptable amount of clearance between the bail arm and the rotor. Just adds to the instability and squishiness of the arm at the joint."
Title: Re: Shimano bailarm gap to rotor
Post by: Wolli on December 11, 2014, 12:55:41 AM
@Tightlines666

i service reels for more than 40 years. Its a hobby and after retirement and with more time i started writing in the German fishing boards. Im sorry to say that my English writing is not so good to write detailed reviews in English...
Attached please find a 30000SW-B review published in German Boards. I hope that the pics are selfexplanatory.
Title: Re: Shimano bailarm gap to rotor
Post by: Keta on December 11, 2014, 04:45:55 AM
Does the bail bind?  It might be tighter for Spectra.
Title: Re: Shimano bailarm gap to rotor
Post by: Bryan Young on December 11, 2014, 05:53:48 PM
That area should be tight as possible as long as it's not binding.

did you guys see the set screw for the line roller?  COOL

(http://alantani.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=12446.0;attach=9343;image)
Title: Re: Shimano bailarm gap to rotor
Post by: foakes on December 11, 2014, 06:29:24 PM
The Stella is the flagship of the Shimano HD Spinning Reel line.

And it should be -- since when it was introduced over 20 years ago -- the price was 4 times that of somewhat comparable reels.  They are excellent, well-engineered reels.  And Shimano is, and always has been a great company to work with when it came to consumer and product issues.  

Even when it was not a valid or warranted complaint -- 9 times out of 10 -- Shimano stepped up and handled the concern -- even to the point of just handing the consumer a new replacement reel.  

That being said, why hasn't Shimano addressed this sloppy bail arm issue through their repair dealers?

It would be a simple matter to just offer an upgraded part & professional installation by mail -- to any consumers who have this reel.

At $1,200 to $1,300 -- one should expect no less.

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: Shimano bailarm gap to rotor
Post by: Tightlines667 on December 11, 2014, 06:34:54 PM
Quote from: foakes on December 11, 2014, 06:29:24 PM
The Stella is the flagship of the Shimano HD Spinning Reel line.

And it should be -- since when it was introduced over 20 years ago -- the price was 4 times that of somewhat comparable reels.  They are excellent, well-engineered reels.  And Shimano is, and always has been a great company to work with when it came to consumer and product issues.  

Even when it was not a valid or warranted complaint -- 9 times out of 10 -- Shimano stepped up and handled the concern -- even to the point of just handing the consumer a new replacement reel.  

That being said, why hasn't Shimano addressed this sloppy bail arm issue through their repair dealers?

It would be a simple matter to just offer an upgraded part & professional installation by mail -- to any consumers who have this reel.

At $1,200 to $1,300 -- one should expect no less.

Best,

Fred

Agreed!
Title: Re: Shimano bailarm gap to rotor
Post by: Bryan Young on December 11, 2014, 06:38:24 PM
For sure.

I have a Shimano Twin-Drag that was gifted to me when living in Japan about 2 years before the Stella line came out.  From what I recall, the rod, reel, line and rod/reel bag cost somewhere in the ballpark of $3000.

That outfit has not failed me yet and I still use it today...unserviced. :D  Even with the same line too.
Title: Re: Shimano bailarm gap to rotor
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on December 11, 2014, 09:37:01 PM
Yup! - Fix the issue - Wouldn't something as simple as a ss shim fix it? ???
Title: Re: Shimano bailarm gap to rotor
Post by: 0119 on December 26, 2014, 11:12:40 AM
Every shitmano spinner I've owned has had that slight gap and corresponding wiggle/sloppiness.  Leads to premature bail opening during a serious hookset eventually. 
Title: Re: Shimano bailarm gap to rotor
Post by: newport on December 28, 2014, 01:43:19 AM
I don't have any reels even close to the price point of a stella, but you made me curious. I checked some of my reels and they all seem to have that gap. Were they always like that, I don't know, but never had any issues because of it. Here are just a few examples:
Title: Re: Shimano bailarm gap to rotor
Post by: newport on December 28, 2014, 01:50:10 AM
First pic is a shimano 4000fj, second is a penn 4500ssv, and last, the shimano baitrunner 4000d. Maybe it's just normal, but again, they're not stellas, so maybe there is something wrong with yours.