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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn 99/Jigmaster/SurfMaster/Squidder Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: coastal_dan on September 03, 2014, 08:39:52 PM

Title: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: coastal_dan on September 03, 2014, 08:39:52 PM
UPDATED PHOTOS BELOW  8)

Good Afternoon All!  I was so excited about building my 'family passed down' Jigmaster that this will be a pre-build post.  I'll be adding pictures along the way.  I'm starting out kind of slow, but my hopes are to build it up little by little.  In the future I'd like to add the S.S. Gearing 5:1 kit, the 5+1 drag kit and a Stainless Spool but all in due time!  First things first, thanks to Alan, Dawn and ChowderPuff for their input and products; as well as many of you that have posted builds and resurrections! So, on the way are...

Tiburon P20 Frame
Tiburon Lite Handle and Arm
Carbontex 3+1 Drag Kit
S.S. Gear Sleeve
S.S. Dog
Cals Grease
CorrosionX
Penn Lube and Grease (Blue)

Some of you have seen this photo but just in case...here is the reel currently awaiting new parts...

(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg170/funferdriver/photo1_zps95ec2060.jpg) (http://s248.photobucket.com/user/funferdriver/media/photo1_zps95ec2060.jpg.html)

(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg170/funferdriver/photo4_zps0b671e24.jpg) (http://s248.photobucket.com/user/funferdriver/media/photo4_zps0b671e24.jpg.html)

Let the games begin!


Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: Tightlines667 on September 03, 2014, 10:08:39 PM
That is one pretty handle...my favorite classic color.  I'm sure she'll be a beaut!
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: MFB on September 04, 2014, 06:02:54 AM
Nice work

Rgds

Mark
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: Ron Jones on September 04, 2014, 06:56:52 AM
Great raw material. A 5:1 Jigmaster is a casting machine, I'd recommend an aluminium spool.
Ron
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: mike155 on September 04, 2014, 10:18:21 AM
Her nice looking reel. I have a 500 jig master that I am starting on myself
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: coastal_dan on September 05, 2014, 06:05:35 PM
All my parts (as well as a new FF/CP for my Hobie) come today  ;D  So in my excitement for all of the items I decided to clean my little work bench.  Fun fact, it is original with the house which was built in 1956, we moved in 1 year ago and I plan to keep this neat part of the house history....please excuse the crappy phone pic.  Moving forward the DSLR will be utilized...

(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg170/funferdriver/shop_zps5d333008.jpg) (http://s248.photobucket.com/user/funferdriver/media/shop_zps5d333008.jpg.html)
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: DaBigOno on September 05, 2014, 08:46:25 PM
Looking forward to more pics of your build Dan.

Work bench looks pretty sweet too!
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: handi2 on September 05, 2014, 08:51:51 PM
The work bench is too clean..!!!
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: coastal_dan on September 09, 2014, 01:10:49 PM
What a blast!  Can't wait to do more...

(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg170/funferdriver/DSC_0786_zpse1b608c0.jpg) (http://s248.photobucket.com/user/funferdriver/media/DSC_0786_zpse1b608c0.jpg.html)

(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg170/funferdriver/DSC_0782_zps907f04f2.jpg) (http://s248.photobucket.com/user/funferdriver/media/DSC_0782_zps907f04f2.jpg.html)

(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg170/funferdriver/DSC_0785_zps4dfe60ad.jpg) (http://s248.photobucket.com/user/funferdriver/media/DSC_0785_zps4dfe60ad.jpg.html)

(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg170/funferdriver/DSC_0789_zpse6ee0391.jpg) (http://s248.photobucket.com/user/funferdriver/media/DSC_0789_zpse6ee0391.jpg.html)

And now onto the next one!!!

(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg170/funferdriver/DSC_0741_zpsac7d2080.jpg) (http://s248.photobucket.com/user/funferdriver/media/DSC_0741_zpsac7d2080.jpg.html)

(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg170/funferdriver/DSC_0739_zps355e46de.jpg) (http://s248.photobucket.com/user/funferdriver/media/DSC_0739_zps355e46de.jpg.html)

(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg170/funferdriver/DSC_0795_zps5c00f8d7.jpg) (http://s248.photobucket.com/user/funferdriver/media/DSC_0795_zps5c00f8d7.jpg.html)

Thanks for looking!
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: Shark Hunter on September 09, 2014, 05:09:29 PM
Good Job Dan! ;) I love those Silver Tibs. ;D
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: Bryan Young on September 09, 2014, 05:43:00 PM
Beautiful Dan.  If you plan to fish the silver Jigmaster, I recommend laying a layer of Dacron/Spectra down up to and over the ridges of the hub of spool.  Those spools are 3 pieces and will spread if filled with mono.  Or find a silver aluminum spool.
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: coastal_dan on September 09, 2014, 06:57:46 PM
Thanks guys!

Bryan - Good to know!  I guess that will be next on the list then.  I see a 29L-500 in black, which would actually look pretty cool with the black handle.  I'll be putting your drag kit to use once I get the S.S. gears and the double dog kit.  Hearing the single dog click gets my heart racing, can't wait to hear two....tap..tap..tap..tap

Sal has given me some great suggestions on the 180, so that will be a fun one as well.  I'm assuming this little hobby gets addictive...
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: Lensters on September 09, 2014, 08:02:55 PM
Quote from: coastal_dan on September 09, 2014, 06:57:46 PMI'm assuming this little hobby gets addictive...

I would say you are correct.  When I get around to taking pictures I'll be posting 30-40 reels in the for sale section.  I just have to finish a few friend's and "customer's" reels first.
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: Aiala on September 09, 2014, 09:41:32 PM
Quote from: coastal_dan on September 09, 2014, 06:57:46 PM
I'm assuming this little hobby gets addictive...

I nominate that for Understatement of the Year!   :D

~A~
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: Big Tim on September 09, 2014, 11:03:32 PM
Welcome to the dark side  ;D  The dark side is powerful here  ;D ;D ;D Very nice work & I too like them Silver Tib frames

Big Tim
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: Alto Mare on September 09, 2014, 11:54:37 PM
Very nice job Dan ;), there is no stopping you now, don't try to fight it, it won't help.
Don't blame us if things get out of hand, Alan is the blame. If it wasn't for him, we wouldn't be here. ;D
Looks like the parts on your second project could use a good cleaning, when mine look the same, I usually soak them in Simple Green.
here is what I do, I use a bucket with a lid so that stuff doesn't stink up the house
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx305/pescatore3/020_zps8720284b.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/pescatore3/media/020_zps8720284b.jpg.html)
I place the parts in a strainer, this one is stainless steel... the wife will never know ;D
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx305/pescatore3/021_zps4262456a.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/pescatore3/media/021_zps4262456a.jpg.html)
If the parts are in rough shape, I soak them for a couple of days, these have been soaking for 3 days.
Don't worry about the parts getting damaged, it never happen to me yet and I use straight Simple Green, no water added
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx305/pescatore3/023_zps85eea2ca.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/pescatore3/media/023_zps85eea2ca.jpg.html)
I will then run them in some warm water and dry them up on a towel
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx305/pescatore3/024_zpsbfd8cd15.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/pescatore3/media/024_zpsbfd8cd15.jpg.html)
at times you might have to hit the parts with a soft brass brush, these didn't need much help
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx305/pescatore3/026_zps8a7e9b57.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/pescatore3/media/026_zps8a7e9b57.jpg.html)

Sal
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: Big Tim on September 10, 2014, 12:00:35 AM
I love it Sal...We can blame Alan for everything  ;D ;D ;D I like the 5 gallon bucket trick!
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: Alto Mare on September 10, 2014, 12:12:27 AM
Tim, when you're done with the Simple Green, put it back in its jug and load that bucket with bricks to test your drags, win win situation. ;D. When done, back to Simple Green for some cleaning ;).
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: Big Tim on September 10, 2014, 12:18:01 AM
I use Werth's Orange Peel Citrus de greaser...Works fantastic but evaporates...I will try simple green
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: Shark Hunter on September 10, 2014, 02:41:02 AM
That simple green is good stuff. It just takes patience to let the parts soak. I diluted mine 50/50, and it still works great. Mine was industrial strength from work. I don't know if that makes a difference.
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: gstours on September 10, 2014, 03:40:41 AM
Thanks for showing you project.  Thanks also for the tip with simple green soaks......Just sit and wait.   great!    gst.
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: coastal_dan on September 10, 2014, 12:33:47 PM
Sal - you read my mind!  I've been doing some research on parts washers and what not, but this sounds much cheaper and less conspicuous in the bank statement :).  As far as testing the drag I've been doing the 8 lb test...one jug of water, haha.

Thanks all and looking forward to learning more from all you folks.
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: coastal_dan on September 23, 2014, 12:58:40 PM
Finally got that new spool and 5+1 drag kit, will be installing the drag kit one of these nights :)

(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg170/funferdriver/reel6_zps51d354bc.jpg) (http://s248.photobucket.com/user/funferdriver/media/reel6_zps51d354bc.jpg.html)

Looking forward to filling it with 220 yds of 30 lb Momoi, I think it'll be my bay sharking reel.
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: mike155 on September 24, 2014, 01:07:13 AM
Very good looking reel. I installed one of the 5+1 kits in mine and got a max drag of 24#. I got to get me a Tib frame and power handle at some point to finish it out.
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: basto on November 21, 2014, 12:56:03 AM
That reel looks great in stock form.  Do you know what year it was made?
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: HOLEINTHEWATER on November 21, 2014, 11:04:35 AM
I USE SIMPLE GREEN MY ULTRASONIC CLEANER FOR MY REEL AND GUN PARTS. 
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: coastal_dan on November 21, 2014, 06:13:59 PM
Thanks!  I don't know the exact year, I would love to know a round about though.  I'm assuming 70's...ish.
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: coastal_dan on December 25, 2014, 04:00:50 AM
Can an expert weigh in on if this bad boy is braid compatible with the shown upgrades?  Will it need the stainless gears?  I want to put together a bottom fishing set up based around 50lb braid and waters 60'-350' deep...lead is 4-20 oz...If this is up to snuff I may just need a rod...weighing my options.  Thanks and Merry Christmas!
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: fIsHsTiiCkS on December 25, 2014, 04:20:55 AM
Quote from: coastal_dan on December 25, 2014, 04:00:50 AM
Can an expert weigh in on if this bad boy is braid compatible with the shown upgrades?  Will it need the stainless gears?  I want to put together a bottom fishing set up based around 50lb braid and waters 60'-350' deep...lead is 4-20 oz...If this is up to snuff I may just need a rod...weighing my options.  Thanks and Merry Christmas!

This is great for braid. With the Tib Frame and Spool you have it will handle just fine. But if your bottom fishing I might hold up on the SS 5:1 gears as the 4:1 may be better for yanking those guys out of their holes. I would just replace it with a steel gear set. Now with that said the 5:1 SS gears will hold up great and handle with out a prob just lose a little torque. If fishing over 10# drag I would opt for the SS gears. Just my 2 cents
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: coastal_dan on December 29, 2014, 02:06:32 PM
Thanks!  Great, I think I'll do some practice drops off the local bridge and reel up some water jugs to see what happens...rather have it fail on dry land than out there.  I'm thinking of doing the double dog and the S.S. spacers for now...as far as a rod I'm keen on the Ugly Stik Tiger Lite 5'-8" XH...
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: Newell Nut on December 29, 2014, 06:36:15 PM
Very nice looking project. Well done.
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: coastal_dan on February 26, 2015, 02:30:46 PM
Figured I'd just update this post rather than start a new one...

Good things DO come in small packages...

(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg170/funferdriver/jigmaster%20double%20dog_zps1b1u3ajj.jpg) (http://s248.photobucket.com/user/funferdriver/media/jigmaster%20double%20dog_zps1b1u3ajj.jpg.html)

Joining the Double Dog Club. ;D
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: Keta on February 26, 2015, 02:50:41 PM
I have #2 waiting for me to decide were to put it.  I tried to make work in my 112HN but it will not.
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: fIsHsTiiCkS on February 26, 2015, 07:21:48 PM
Great build and keep it going! Next pics with the beauty you catch on it
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: coastal_dan on February 26, 2015, 07:33:06 PM
Reels aren't for catching fish!! ;D  Haha, I plan on sharking with it in April/May - then Sebass/Deep Drops in the summer and Fall.  It would do nicely trolling for stripers as well.
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: thorhammer on February 26, 2015, 07:40:03 PM
dammiitttt thats a sweet jigmonster; that silver Tib pops. I think i have four of those with the burgandy sideplates; could even be 60's vintage (now i want silver Tib frames on them).  In 1972-73 Penn issued the 500S, which had Delrin plates that were a brighter red but chipped easier than bakelite; i have several 500S's also and you may find some interesting SS goodies in them not in other 500's. 500S also has left sideplate removal instead of right. I converted two of my 500L's over to a 501 hybrid with SS spools, Newell stands and crossbars and power handles for jigging off NC and also used them for black sea bass. Spooled with 50 or 65 braid and nary an issue. i did topshot over mono though; no need for 500 yds of braid on this reel.

great build you have there.
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: Marcq on February 26, 2015, 10:30:54 PM
Nice transformation and what I like is that they can come all unique, easily adapted to all kinds of fishing  8)

Marc..
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: coastal_dan on March 16, 2015, 01:03:59 PM
Ok, all installed last night, ended up going with the 10.5 mm spacer for more drag adjustment.  Looks like the factory unit is just about 11.5 mm.  How tight should that spacer be in the available hole?  Mine is quite tight, you can feel slight resistance when you reel, so I'm thinking of taking it apart and sanding it down a bit both on the inside and outside...had to be slightly tapped on with a rubber mallet.  Other than that the reel feels awesome, this thing is beastly.
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: Alto Mare on March 16, 2015, 01:51:01 PM
Dan, let it go.Those were designed to be very tight at first, they will work themselves in after using it a few times.
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: BMITCH on March 16, 2015, 02:03:29 PM
Dan, as per our PM....this would make a really nice 30# reel. Plus if you get another spool you could put some depth counter braid and it could double as a jigging reel! Just a thought
Bob
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: Keta on March 16, 2015, 02:04:41 PM
Penn tolerances are all over the place, I have some reels I could not press the spacer in, others fit like I hand lapped them.  Once the spacer is in place the handle feels much more solid.
Title: Re: My 1st Reel Build - Jigmaster 500
Post by: coastal_dan on March 16, 2015, 02:44:15 PM
Sweet!  Thanks guys!

Sal - That Delrin washer is sweet, ended up using the smaller diameter one under the main gear because the larger one sat on top of the second dog spring pin.  But, I couldn't add the one under the tension spring, it was a little tight with Brians drag kit.  She is now almost Shimano smooth....almost, haha ;D

Keta - You're right, it feels like a different reel.  It had a bit of play before which I just said, "Meh, it's an old Penn..." but now, wow what a difference.

Bob - good point!  The plan is to grab another spool and fill it with 50 lb braid for seabass; you're right though could be a decent rod for the smaller tuna, already have a 30 lb stick for it.