Hi folks, I'm almost finished with my Ocean City 112 rebuild/restore. I have 2 issues.
1. The little orange/red washer came out broken, and I'm not totally sure from where. I assume this is the fiber drag washer. Any tips for locating a source for a new one?
2. The short, wide spring. I think this goes under the spool tensioner knob but I can't get it to thread with the spring on.
Thanks!
That is probably the fiber washer from under the main gear. You can replace it with delrin, carbon fiber, mylar or any synthetic material that can tolerate a little heat. Maybe best to avoid nylon.
That spring goes inside the spool tension know on the tail plate. Try winding the spring to make the diameter a little smaller as you insert it.
-steve
Thanks, Steve.
Still no luck on the spring. Don't feel like I'm coming even close to turning a thread. Does the spring thread onto the flared bottom of the knob?
Carl, if you are trying to put the spring on the left side it does not belong there. It belongs on the right side plate. Dominick
Like this
Thanks Dominic, that worked. The diagram I am looking at has it completely opposite!
Interesting now though I have significantly more side play on the spool
Wompus, mine doesn't look like that at all. Are you sure it's a 112, or maybe some lettered variant?
I'll try to get some better pics tomorrow of both sides.
I've got 2 knobs; one is oct-headed with a flared bottom and one is round headed. The round one is the only one that the spring seats in. Either cap will seat on either side, but if I use the spring on the right side (under the drag), the spring is exposed. If I use it on the left side, with the clicker switch, it recesses. I'm assuming this is the correct config. It also fits the diagram. I don't understand, mechanically, how this contols reel tension but that's a personal problem :D
QuoteWompus, mine doesn't look like that at all. Are you sure it's a 112, or maybe some lettered variant?
No my pic was just to give you some insight as to which side the spring cap went >
There are at least 2 versions of the 112 .
Early has a lever that you pull down for free spool the other has a lever you push forward or back .
Each of those Have different end caps .
Lets see a pic of both sides of your reel and the end caps .
The spring does not adjust tension on the spool per say but puts pressure on the cap to keep it from backing off .
On one version the end cap has a screw in the middle ( Lever Side ) in which you can set the gear to spool spacing and the other side has a Brass pin in the center you can punch in or out to achieve the proper tension variance in thumb
Cap.
Sounds like you are pretty much there just need some Tweaking
Some picture of the 112
Like Wompus said round cap on the click side with spring.
I thought it went on the left/tail plate. The left side needs a spring because when the reel is casted the spinning spool will try to vibrate and loosen the left side threads. The threads are lefty-loosey and the spool is spinning the same direction.
The schematic shows it on the left too:
https://www.reelschematic.com/wp-content/uploads/schematics/Ocean%20City/OCEAN%20CITY%20LEVELWIND%20BAY%20CITY%20MODEL%20A%20112%2C%20113%281950%29.pdf (https://www.reelschematic.com/wp-content/uploads/schematics/Ocean%20City/OCEAN%20CITY%20LEVELWIND%20BAY%20CITY%20MODEL%20A%20112%2C%20113%281950%29.pdf)
#35 - left side oil cap spring.
When starting the threads you have to be compressing the spring at the same time. Sometimes it is just a matter of pushing harder as you turn it.
-steve
Shouldn't Ocean City have it's own section?
Elcarlstono I have a bunch of hard fiber washers. PM me and you can try these. That 2nd red one from the left looks close?
Thanks for all the replies:
@oldmanjoe, yes, that's it. I'm going with it.
@oc1(steve). Thanks for that schmetic. It's the first I've seen where I can actually read the numbers!
@Gfish. THat is a very kind offer; PM inbound. Here's the dimensions of what's left of mine.
Ring width; 1/8"
Total diameter: 11/16"
Inside diameter: 3/8"
For what it's worth, the main drag on mine has the single cork washer, which is still in tact.
Can you snap a picture of the drag , they may be stuck together making it look like one instead of three pieces
After thinking about it there is a one piece drag also , here is one Doninick has done ...https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=18792.0
Yes it's the same one. I didn't, and wasn't planing, to pop it out at risk of breaking it.
Quote from: elcarlstono on December 06, 2020, 04:18:30 PM
Hi folks, I'm almost finished with my Ocean City 112 rebuild/restore. I have 2 issues.
1. The little orange/red washer came out broken, and I'm not totally sure from where. I assume this is the fiber drag washer. Any tips for locating a source for a new one?
I have a OC 112 reel and few years ago did a complete service to it eventho I will not use it, I like the freespool lever mechanism as well as the in-house handle nut wrench as part of the handle, pretty unique!!
for the red hard fiber washer, as my ohana guys already said, that goes under the main gear, if you happen to have some extra carbon fiber washers you can cut one to fit and will work as good, alan tani even change the hard fiber for CF washer under the main gear.
on my OC 112 I did the same cuz the hard fiber also broke while servicing.
I dont recall what size of CF I used but sometimes you have to make the ID bigger and OD smaller to meet your needs.
in mine the stock drag washers were toast so I put some HT-100 cut to size in there, the reel is ready to use but I preferred to leave it as shelf queen.
To add more drag washers you would need a different main gear. That's the sort of reel that you could hammer the star down with a coke bottle or piece of driftwood if more drag was needed.
The Bay City 112 was introduced in 1931 with a Koph-type clutch. The New Synchro Mesh clutch with knock-down lever (like Dominick showed) appeared in 1935 but they still had the pear-shaped wood knob. The "New Torpedo Shaped Handle Knob" made of Tenite appeared in 1939. I think Mo is right (in the other thread) and there were brownish and almond knobs initially.
I can't fid my notes about the riveted medallions on the head plate, but think they appeared just before the war and were continued into the True Temper era. The medallion color (blue, green or white) can be used to help further date the reel.
The Bay City 112 was originally designed for thick linen line but it was still being made when linen was replaced with braided nylon and then mono. It's big by todays standards, but at the time it was a general purpose inshore reel for weakfish, fluke, stripers, etc.
Thanks again Mike C.
-steve
Quote from: oc1 on December 12, 2020, 01:00:38 AM
To add more drag washers you would need a different main gear. That's the sort of reel that you could hammer the star down with a coke bottle or piece of driftwood if more drag was needed.
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