Reel Repair by Alan Tani

Spinning Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Zangi => Topic started by: ClintB on August 03, 2021, 10:39:00 PM

Title: Orvis 50a
Post by: ClintB on August 03, 2021, 10:39:00 PM
I found this little gem in a lot of reels I bought. It definitely needs to be cleaned but the handle actually hangs up on the bail occasionally. What can I do to stop it hitting like that?
Title: Re: Orvis 50a
Post by: foakes on August 03, 2021, 11:02:11 PM
The bail could be bent, Clint —

The bail mount may be stopping too low on the trip mechanism.

However, there is a danger n bending that old bail wire too far upwards to clear the handle — it could easily break — or if not the issue — it could screw up the proper line lay.

My quick fix would be a 1/16th to 1/8th spacer in the crank assembly.

The bail should clear easily at that point — with no major modifications that could not be undone later.

That is a valuable reel — and major mods or a broken bail — will spoil your day.

Best, Fred

Title: Re: Orvis 50a
Post by: ClintB on August 03, 2021, 11:12:55 PM
Thanks Fred!
I think I'll just clean it and find a decent spacer. It seems like a solid little reel, I'd like to get it into fishing shape to go on one of my 1960s Fenwicks.

Clint
Title: Re: Orvis 50a
Post by: Midway Tommy on August 04, 2021, 02:40:44 AM
That's one of the earlier versions (Zangi 1966 - '72)of the 50A given it has the double locking nuts on the crank. Post '72 50As were made by Coptes and had a single knurled tightening nut. It appears to me from your photo that the bail and the bail plate arm are both bent out of alignment a little bit. Your best long term fix is to carefully bend the bail plate arm forwards (down in your 2nd photo) a little where the roller guide sits and very carefully bend the bail wire for the first inch or so (in that same pic) forwards. When adjusted correctly (scroll down to the end) it should look like this. (https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=22628.msg283914#msg283914)    
Title: Re: Orvis 50a
Post by: ClintB on August 04, 2021, 02:58:25 AM
Thanks Tommy!
I'll study that a bit, I definitely don't want to break it. I just wish it had a reversible crank....
Title: Re: Orvis 50a
Post by: philaroman on August 04, 2021, 11:33:34 AM
none of those, but a rare 51/51a pops up occasionally
VERY pricey for nice collectible ones, but an externally beat-up one might draw less attention
Title: Re: Orvis 50a
Post by: Midway Tommy on August 04, 2021, 05:37:51 PM
Even the well used ones seem to consistently bring high prices.  :-\  Never really understood why. It must be because they're a small quality UL. Parts are hard to come by for those things, though.
Title: Re: Orvis 50a
Post by: ClintB on August 04, 2021, 07:28:50 PM
There were 3 extra spools in the box with everything else.
Title: Re: Orvis 50a
Post by: philaroman on August 05, 2021, 01:15:45 AM
Quote from: Midway Tommy on August 04, 2021, 05:37:51 PM
Even the well used ones seem to consistently bring high prices.  :-\  Never really understood why. It must be because they're a small quality UL. Parts are hard to come by for those things, though.

yeah, Tom...  took a look & I'm dated
thinking back to when there were plenty 50's & couple 51's up for auction at most times
do you know anything about old glass Orvis Spinning rods?
guy next to me on the bank, had one he trash-picked
felt like a nice L/ML...  Daiwa OEM, maybe?


Quote from: ClintB on August 04, 2021, 07:28:50 PM
There were 3 extra spools in the box with everything else.

that's quite a valuable package...  I'd unload it
likely, get enough $$$ for TWO worm-drives & parts for life from Fred
Title: Re: Orvis 50a
Post by: Midway Tommy on August 05, 2021, 01:32:46 AM
Those 50A spools are tough to come by. They'll also fit the 51A. Nice find!