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Fishing => Fishing Line, Knots, Splices and Rigging => Topic started by: nelz on September 18, 2019, 07:46:47 PM

Title: Flourocarbon ID
Post by: nelz on September 18, 2019, 07:46:47 PM
I fish both regular mono and flourocarbon leaders. On occasion I forget what I had on last. Is there a way to tell the difference between mono and flourocarbon? Some kind of test perhaps? I hate to throw out a perfectly good piece of expensive flourocarbon thinking it was mono.  ???
Title: Re: Flourocarbon ID
Post by: Captain64-200 on September 18, 2019, 09:30:11 PM
If it's 100% fluorocarbon leader ,you won't be able to see it once under water   
Title: Re: Flourocarbon ID
Post by: nelz on September 18, 2019, 09:32:49 PM
Quote from: Captain64-200 on September 18, 2019, 09:30:11 PMIf it's 100% fluorocarbon leader ,you won't be able to see it once under water

I've tried comparing them in a glass of water, but they look the same. Probably needs to be deeper before the difference is apparent.
Title: Re: Flourocarbon ID
Post by: wfjord on September 18, 2019, 11:32:15 PM
The one that sinks is fluorocarbon.
Title: Re: Flourocarbon ID
Post by: Smols on September 19, 2019, 05:46:54 AM
If you have short leaders tied on, you can give the line a good stretch - the fluoro will straighten out after a good stretch, but the mono will retain some curl from being wrapped around the spool.
Title: Re: Flourocarbon ID
Post by: Gobi King on September 19, 2019, 03:17:30 PM
what #test?

Dunno know if you can do a little burn test and tell by the color.
Title: Re: Flourocarbon ID
Post by: nelz on September 19, 2019, 07:53:48 PM
Quote from: Gobi King on September 19, 2019, 03:17:30 PMwhat #test?
Dunno know if you can do a little burn test and tell by the color.

30#
Title: Re: Flourocarbon ID
Post by: Gobi King on September 19, 2019, 07:57:43 PM
true test is density of the material as pointed out
so cut a piece of similar length and drop in water and let go and see which drops faster?
Title: Re: Flourocarbon ID
Post by: Gfish on September 19, 2019, 08:58:23 PM
Good info. here. I've been using flexibility(esp. when tying knots) and differences in stretch capacity.
Title: Re: Flourocarbon ID
Post by: SoCalAngler on September 21, 2019, 04:23:22 PM
Fluorocarbon will be stiffer than mono. Take a both lines and lay them between your thumb and fore finger. If the line attached to the reel has a hook or lure on it cut it off. Now with the two lines pinched in your fingers leave around a 1/4 to 1/2 inch sticking out one side. Make sure they are both side by side and the same length. With your other hand grab or place your finger on the known line and wiggle it, then wiggle the other. Say the known line is mono you will be able feel how stiff it is. If the other line feels the same with the wiggle test then you know you have a mono leader attached. If the line feels stiffer then you have fluoro attached.

Of course both lines need to be the same lb test for this to work right. The stiffness difference between the two different lines should be easy to tell.
Title: Re: Flourocarbon ID
Post by: nelz on September 21, 2019, 04:29:42 PM
Thanks for the tips guys.

Also, sometimes the FC looks to fray and peel in a way that seems like layers in an onion.

Anybody have a black light to see if they glow differently perhaps?
Title: Re: Flourocarbon ID
Post by: Benni3 on September 22, 2019, 05:42:32 AM
Quote from: nelz on September 21, 2019, 04:29:42 PM
Thanks for the tips guys.

Also, sometimes the FC looks to fray and peel in a way that seems like layers in an onion.

Anybody have a black light to see if they glow differently perhaps?
nope,,,,, :( 80lb mono vs 18lb flouro under a neon black light,,,, :) but old flouro is bad luck,,,,,,,,,, ;D
Title: Re: Flourocarbon ID
Post by: nelz on September 22, 2019, 06:21:54 AM
Thanks Benni, now I don't have to go out and buy a black light.  ;D

BTW, is a "neon black light" the same as a florescent tube one?
Title: Re: Flourocarbon ID
Post by: Benni3 on September 22, 2019, 06:45:57 AM
Quote from: nelz on September 22, 2019, 06:21:54 AM
Thanks Benni, now I don't have to go out and buy a black light.  ;D

BTW, is a neon black light the same as a florescent tube one?
not sure I will do that soon,,,,,, :D some line has frourecent in it,,,,,, ;D
Title: Re: Flourocarbon ID
Post by: Fishy247 on September 24, 2019, 11:02:44 PM
QuoteBTW, is a "neon black light" the same as a florescent tube one?

Pretty much. I think they call it a "neon black light" because it causes neon colors to glow.

Mike
Title: Re: Flourocarbon ID
Post by: conchydong on September 24, 2019, 11:16:37 PM
Quote from: SoCalAngler on September 21, 2019, 04:23:22 PM
Fluorocarbon will be stiffer than mono. Take a both lines and lay them between your thumb and fore finger. If the line attached to the reel has a hook or lure on it cut it off. Now with the two lines pinched in your fingers leave around a 1/4 to 1/2 inch sticking out one side. Make sure they are both side by side and the same length. With your other hand grab or place your finger on the known line and wiggle it, then wiggle the other. Say the known line is mono you will be able feel how stiff it is. If the other line feels the same with the wiggle test then you know you have a mono leader attached. If the line feels stiffer then you have fluoro attached.

Of course both lines need to be the same lb test for this to work right. The stiffness difference between the two different lines should be easy to tell.

This^^^^
Title: Re: Flourocarbon ID
Post by: Benni3 on September 25, 2019, 03:12:24 AM
Neon is neon bulb,,,,, :) I looked for the florescent bulbs  ??? But don't know where there at,,,,but I got something somewhere,,,,,,, ;D
Title: Re: Flourocarbon ID
Post by: UKChris1 on December 18, 2019, 12:01:10 PM
Hi chaps,
I know this is a little old now, but there is a difference in the way the two types of line burn.

Hold the end in a flame and nylon will melt, catch fire and continue to burn when taken out of the flame (dropping hot blobs on the carpet so watch out) whereas fluorocarbon will go out on its own when withdrawn from the flame.
At least, that's what happens with mine (both lines are ~1.5mm thick).

(Oh, and I don't believe for one moment f/c is invisible to fish per se. Matching leader colour to the water and background colours and to light intensity is more important in my humble opinion, and personal experience.)

Cheers,
Chris
Title: Re: Flourocarbon ID
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on December 18, 2019, 05:08:43 PM
Fluorocarbon will generally sink more quickly. Some lines that shed 'layers' when fraying could be copolymers or fluro coated mono :-\