Never believed treble hooks were necessary, even before I got serious into fishing. I think they do more damage than necesary to fish, which is not an issue unless you are catching and releasing or if the fish is under the legal size. I had to replace some rusty treble hooks on a couple lures, so went out today to buy some replacement hooks with inline hooks in mind ( I remember reading about it in some fishing mag). So I got the 3/0 and 6/0 VMCs made specifically for lure fishing. Tested it out today on the local river and hooked into a couple schoolie striped bass. As you can see in the pics (same fish) it was a good hookup in the corner of the mouth. In my experience trebles are good at hooking into fish, but not really the best at keeping them on. Lastly, it is not only safer for the fish, but more importantly, safer for the fishermen, as well. Give these a try. I like them already.
Sounds like a great idea, 'cept mabey for delicately balenced non-surface plugs with lots a' swimming action. Whata you think?
Gfish
I caught a YFT last weekend on a Halco with VMC inline hooks that i wired. There were Wahoo in the area too. I'd had Wahoo hiting my surface iron earlier but weren't sticking on the treble hook. I did cut the treble off an iron and attached an inline with a split ring. I'll be ready next time.
We always replaced the trebles on the Rapala Magnums with Mustad duel hooks when deep trolling for YFT in tye gulf. The hooks held and we caught many nice 40-250lb yellowfin. The baits themselves were only good for 1 fish apiece.
I'm terrified of treble hooks. They're another accident waiting to happen. I get a similar looking single hook from Owner for popping plugs but they're thinner wire and pricey too. Will look into VMC. Thank you for that lead.
-steve
I've been using Decoy Sergeant JS1 inline hooks for a while now. I try to choose a hook size of similar weight to the original treble then go with one size larger. It's been working fine on smaller lures haven't tried it on large ones yet. These are a fairly thick wire hook but sharp out of the packet. Both VMC and Decoy do a lighter wire hook that may work for 'sensitive' lures. Haven't tried the Owner ones yet hard to find in the UK :(
I switched out my YoZuri shallow and deep diver trebles to the VMC inline hooks fishing for stripers in the Delta, mostly to save the net. Worked well.
Quote from: Tiddlerbasher on October 07, 2016, 09:37:03 AM
I've been using Decoy Sergeant JS1 inline hooks for a while now. I try to choose a hook size of similar weight to the original treble then go with one size larger. It's been working fine on smaller lures haven't tried it on large ones yet. These are a fairly thick wire hook but sharp out of the packet. Both VMC and Decoy do a lighter wire hook that may work for 'sensitive' lures. Haven't tried the Owner ones yet hard to find in the UK :(
Have used Decoy, Owner, VMC 7266 and Mustard singles with good success on all species for quite a while. The heavier Decoy and VMC are good for bigger lures in 1/0 and 2/0, while the Owners and Mustard work well on smaller more weight-sensitive lures (such as Megabass). A lot easier to handle and gentler on fish if they are to be released. Switching to singles seemed to have a negligible affect on my catch rate, since the occasional missed strike is offset by the fact that hooked fish tend to stay hooked....
I have been using single hooks on my metal slugs for mackerel and tuna for years and love it.I put 3/0 or 4/0 mustard red tarpon hooks on these.The gape is twice as big as the trebles they come with.If you Google hooks in people, most of them are trebles and it will make you sick.
I took off all the treble hooks from my..baits...years ago.I never fish with such type of hooks.
Moreover, the treble hook by itself can damage the ..bait's body in water.
You see it on the picture (marked with red circle)
Yo-Zuri Hydro Magnum Deep Diver 180...
(http://s020.radikal.ru/i723/1507/06/0339e347aec2.jpg)
Single hooks only.
(http://s02.radikal.ru/i175/1610/9c/3d87b0934d4c.jpg) (http://radikal.ru)
Newbie question: What enhancement does the inline hook offer over a comparable hook with a standard eye? Do circle hooks work well for lures?
"Do circle hooks work well for lures?"
no...try the Owner's zo wire inline hooks, hope this helps! tight lines...
Most regular hook have the eye turned the other way,
-steve
I replace all of the trebles w/double Mustads on my Rapala magnums which I intend to troll for Wahoo, and Tuna.
Quote from: oc1 on October 26, 2016, 07:57:26 PM
Most regular hook have the eye turned the other way,
-steve
I get that from the 1st photo in the post....but I see other photos of lures with various types of hooks that are not in line -- siwash, circle, etc. If in line hooks are better, what about having the eye on that axis makes it a better hook for lures? What are the physics that make it better?
The metal loop on the lure that the hook attaches to runs front to back. Then you put on a split ring that runs side to side, then an in-line hook that runs front to back. If the hook eye is oriented side to side then hook will point left or right instead of down. A regular hook will work if the eye is large enough and two split rings are used.
-steve
Quote from: coralsea on October 26, 2016, 04:34:08 AM
I took off all the treble hooks from my..baits...years ago.I never fish with such type of hooks.
Moreover, the treble hook by itself can damage the ..bait's body in water.
You see it on the picture (marked with red circle)
Yo-Zuri Hydro Magnum Deep Diver 180...
(http://s020.radikal.ru/i723/1507/06/0339e347aec2.jpg)
This picture shows circle hooks attached with split rings to a swim bait. Is an in line hook better? Why? If you don't know, let someone else answer. :)
Quote from: coralsea on October 26, 2016, 04:34:08 AM
(http://s020.radikal.ru/i723/1507/06/0339e347aec2.jpg)
I have always pointed the min hook with the point down and the rear hook pointing up Not sure if it makes a difference or if it's just preference. I personally love circle hooks but I do use J-hooks on jigs where I know the fishes mouth is tough to pierce the jaw with a circle hook.
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This picture shows circle hooks attached with split rings to a swim bait. Is an in line hook better? Why? If you don't know, let someone else answer. :)
As i see, in line hooks provide more space for movement..around...Right? Or they have other goal?
In place i live fishermens use (mostly) circle hooks...
So, do I...
There are hooks which have ...lets say...360 degrees run..I will show photo tomorrow.
Hold that plug up in the air or suspend it in water and the hooks are going to orient themselves from side to side rather than front to back.
-steve
I fish only with artificial lures, for mainly Yellowtail, and Yellowfin Tuna. Based on my many years experience Trebles result in more hookups and on Yellowtail also hold the fish better. However Yellowfin do not stay on the trebles well and we tend to use large single hooks on a piece of Dacron/Braid cord behind the lure. This usually ends up hooking the fish in the corner of the mouth as per circle hook expectation. Both Yellowtail and Yellowfin Tuna do not often come off a single hook.
I would not have much confidence on a hookup using a circle hook on a fast retrieve lure.
With the lure In Deckers picture the hooks would sit sideways which would not be the case with In-line hooks.
BTW I would never use a lure with two hooks.
How about such type of hooks? With swivel...
(http://www.vattelappesca.com/prodotti/430281_ham.jpg)
Quote from: coralsea on October 28, 2016, 12:07:43 AM
How about such type of hooks? With swivel...
(http://www.vattelappesca.com/prodotti/430281_ham.jpg)
Those look nice... but how do I Google them without installing a Japanese (or Chinese, Korean?) keyboard? ;D
marufuji z-005 hooks.
People love to overthink this sort of thing-this same basic setup must be 60 years old and works as well today as ever.
Yes this is a Salmon plug but the same setup works as well with a Rapala or Yo-Zuri deep diver-I admit to using doubles as belly hooks as shown upthread but doubt they are truly necessary.
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/A_Fisher/Ucluelet%20August%202010/012.jpg)
Quote from: Cor on October 27, 2016, 06:17:31 PM
I fish only with artificial lures, for mainly Yellowtail, and Yellowfin Tuna. Based on my many years experience Trebles result in more hookups and on Yellowtail also hold the fish better. However Yellowfin do not stay on the trebles well and we tend to use large single hooks on a piece of Dacron/Braid cord behind the lure. This usually ends up hooking the fish in the corner of the mouth as per circle hook expectation. Both Yellowtail and Yellowfin Tuna do not often come off a single hook.
I would not have much confidence on a hookup using a circle hook on a fast retrieve lure.
With the lure In Deckers picture the hooks would sit sideways which would not be the case with In-line hooks.
BTW I would never use a lure with two hooks.
Something I should have mentioned as well......when fishing in shallow water or in places where there is thick kelp or other structure in the water, your probability of actually landing the hooked Yellowtail is substantially increased when using a single hook. Often the Yellowtail manages to stick the free hooks on the treble in to the structure and wave you good bye. In 45 years of fishing for these things I've never understood how they do that so easily.
Quote from: coralsea on October 28, 2016, 12:07:43 AM
How about such type of hooks? With swivel...
(http://www.vattelappesca.com/prodotti/430281_ham.jpg)
this type of circle should work...tight lines!
As oc1 said before about the orientation of the inline hooks is correct. Having inline hooks makes the swivels unnecessary.
In a pinch, you can use two split rings like chain links for each hook to change the hook orientation.
-steve