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Spinning Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => South Bend => Topic started by: xjchad on May 06, 2019, 08:48:10 PM

Title: South Bend Classic 935
Post by: xjchad on May 06, 2019, 08:48:10 PM
After reading Mo's post on the 925, I was reminded that I had a 935 model in the bin that I had picked up awhile ago and forgotten about.  Since I'd sold my Slammer 360 I was in need of anther light duty surf reel and this seemed like it would fit the bill.  After going through it, I think it'll be even better than the Penn  :o  If that doesn't raise some eyebrows, I'll also say that I like this model better than the couple of Quicks I've rebuilt  :o :o (Take this all with a grain of salt because I have far less experience than most of you hear and probably don't know what I'm talking about  :D )
     
So here's the reel as I received it.  In very nice shape to begin with and very smooth.
(https://i.imgur.com/y5J5Zhhh.jpg)

Simple, strong frame and components.
(https://i.imgur.com/aU4B3Evh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/sUNY30qh.jpg)

Single bearing on the pinion that's sealed on the rotor side (great for surf conditions).
(https://i.imgur.com/V4IIn4ch.jpg)

All the critical parts seem to be stainless, very few plastic parts.  AR is on the pinion. 
(https://i.imgur.com/HWa4K5th.jpg)

Like Mo, I made some CF discs to replace the felt ones.  The 3 stack should put out plenty of drag.
(https://i.imgur.com/xExM3Ath.jpg)

Finished it off the best way I know how with one of Sal's custom knobs.
(https://i.imgur.com/oGQZureh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/OOejQy0h.jpg)

Can't wait to spool it up with some 30 lb. braid and hit the surf!
(https://i.imgur.com/GjpNS43h.jpg)

This reel is so smooth and feels very strong without being too heavy.  The AR is very quiet compared to one's I've used that are on the main gear (although personally I enjoy the sound of the ratcheting dog).
Thanks for your inspiration Mo and for the beautiful knob Sal!
Title: Re: South Bend Classic 935
Post by: mo65 on May 06, 2019, 09:11:35 PM
Great work Chad! These reels are fantastic, your assessment is dead on. Check the spring pressure on the AR. That spring behind the pawl may need a tweak. 8)
Title: Re: South Bend Classic 935
Post by: festus on May 06, 2019, 09:52:11 PM
You got a good one, Chad. IMHO they're right up there with the Quicks and Shakes Royal Maroons, but lighter, which is even better.  And I wouldn't doubt they're better than the Penns.
Title: Re: South Bend Classic 935
Post by: philaroman on May 06, 2019, 11:11:24 PM
please post a pic after spool-up -- would love to see a close-up of the line lay w/ 30# braid
please guesstimate how likely skinny braid may be to sneak under the spool at highest point
thank you
Title: Re: South Bend Classic 935
Post by: xjchad on May 06, 2019, 11:19:09 PM
Quote from: philaroman on May 06, 2019, 11:11:24 PM
please post a pic after spool-up -- would love to see a close-up of the line lay w/ 30# braid
please guesstimate how likely skinny braid may be to sneak under the spool at highest point
thank you

Hope to get it spooled up and try it this week.  I'll definitely follow up for you.
If it doesn't have good results, I guess I'll have to buy a spool of mono....
Title: Re: South Bend Classic 935
Post by: Darin Crofton on May 06, 2019, 11:25:51 PM
Fantastic post, Chad, reel turned out great buddy!
Title: Re: South Bend Classic 935
Post by: happyhooker on May 07, 2019, 12:31:56 AM
Interesting; impressive looking reel.  A lot of plus power on the stat monitor.  The more I think about it, having the AR ahead of the gear train seems like a very positive point.

Frank
Title: Re: South Bend Classic 935
Post by: Midway Tommy on May 07, 2019, 04:16:39 AM
Those SB Classics were nice sleepers    ;) ,until you guys uncovered them, that is.    ;D

You should like it, Chad.  :)
Title: Re: South Bend Classic 935
Post by: basto on May 07, 2019, 05:33:59 AM
Did they come in right hand wind?
Title: Re: South Bend Classic 935
Post by: mo65 on May 07, 2019, 01:44:02 PM
Quote from: basto on May 07, 2019, 05:33:59 AM
Did they come in right hand wind?

   I haven't seen any Greg.

Quote from: Midway Tommy on May 07, 2019, 04:16:39 AM
Those SB Classics were nice sleepers    ;) ,until you guys uncovered them, that is.    ;D

   It's all a clever ploy Tommy. While the collectors are scrambling to hoard up all these "new grails" maybe we can swoop in and get a Penn 716z or a Cardinal 3 on the cheap.
Title: Re: South Bend Classic 935
Post by: Midway Tommy on May 07, 2019, 05:55:35 PM
Quote from: mo65 on May 07, 2019, 01:44:02 PM
Quote from: basto on May 07, 2019, 05:33:59 AM
Did they come in right hand wind?

   I haven't seen any Greg.

Quote from: Midway Tommy on May 07, 2019, 04:16:39 AM
Those SB Classics were nice sleepers    ;) ,until you guys uncovered them, that is.    ;D

   It's all a clever ploy Tommy. While the collectors are scrambling to hoard up all these "new grails" maybe we can swoop in and get a Penn 716z or a Cardinal 3 on the cheap.

Greg, No.

Mike, SHHHHH!  ;D
Title: Re: South Bend Classic 935
Post by: foakes on May 07, 2019, 06:16:24 PM
It's all a clever ploy Tommy. While the collectors are scrambling to hoard up all these "new grails" maybe we can swoop in and get a Penn 716z or a Cardinal 3 on the cheap.

Yeah...let me know how that works out...

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: South Bend Classic 935
Post by: festus on May 07, 2019, 07:32:38 PM
This makes 7 or 8 threads for South Bend spinning reels in the last 5-6 weeks, about time for a South Bend category of its own.  There are more South Bend reels out there l plan on buying whenever they become available, and I'll be sure to share info and pics.
Title: Re: South Bend Classic 935
Post by: Alto Mare on May 07, 2019, 11:41:45 PM
I've forgotten about that knob Chad :) and yes it does look good on that reel.
Great job on the 935, it appears to be a very well made reel.
Thanks for showing it.

Sal
Title: Re: South Bend Classic 935
Post by: bhale1 on May 08, 2019, 05:39:44 AM
cool old reel Chad, simple design, easy to maintain, and now even better with a much better handle knob!
Brett
Title: Re: South Bend Classic 935
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on May 08, 2019, 07:45:18 PM
I have seen these reels before and knew they were worm gear drive reels but one think that scared me off from buying them was the bail trip lever appears to be plastic in the rotor cup assembly. Is that correct? I've never seen them up close, only in pictures. Everything else seems to be quality. I love my maroon Shakespeare reels, if these are even lighter then that is a bonus.
Title: Re: South Bend Classic 935
Post by: xjchad on May 08, 2019, 07:59:04 PM
Quote from: The Fishing Hobby on May 08, 2019, 07:45:18 PM
I have seen these reels before and knew they were worm gear drive reels but one think that scared me off from buying them was the bail trip lever appears to be plastic in the rotor cup assembly. Is that correct? I've never seen them up close, only in pictures. Everything else seems to be quality. I love my maroon Shakespeare reels, if these are even lighter then that is a bonus.

The bail trip is metal and slides in a plastic sleeve.
(https://i.imgur.com/DWbGY6Ch.jpg)

It's tripped by the copper(?) tab here:
(https://i.imgur.com/V4IIn4ch.jpg)

The bail stop is plastic but seems to be of good quality, not brittle.  It also can be depressed to allow the bail to fold for travel.
(https://i.imgur.com/Lvxu3WAh.jpg)
Title: Re: South Bend Classic 935
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on May 08, 2019, 08:45:20 PM
Awesome, thanks! That shouldn't hurt anything as far a durability goes.
Title: Re: South Bend Classic 935
Post by: xjchad on May 08, 2019, 08:52:31 PM
Those, the drag knob and the AR lever, are the only plastic parts on the reel.  And it's still pretty light. 
Title: Re: South Bend Classic 935
Post by: xjchad on May 16, 2019, 07:53:28 PM
Quote from: philaroman on May 06, 2019, 11:11:24 PM
please post a pic after spool-up -- would love to see a close-up of the line lay w/ 30# braid
please guesstimate how likely skinny braid may be to sneak under the spool at highest point
thank you

Thanks for the line roller Fred!
The 30 lb. braid loaded pretty good.  Now I need a chance to test it out!

(https://i.imgur.com/opckJhZh.jpg)
Title: Re: South Bend Classic 935
Post by: foakes on May 16, 2019, 08:00:54 PM
That whole set up looks really great, Chad —

Remember, fellas, I have a lot of SouthBend parts that were just acquired.

Any of you members who would like a care pack of a half dozen or so of each of the SB parts that I have — just let me know and I will send them out N/C — just pay the postage after you get the shipment.

I will never use 1% of these parts in the next 30 years.  No bodies, cranks, spools, or sideplates — but most everything else.

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: South Bend Classic 935
Post by: xjchad on May 18, 2019, 01:24:42 AM
Quote from: foakes on May 16, 2019, 08:00:54 PM
That whole set up looks really great, Chad —

Remember, fellas, I have a lot of SouthBend parts that were just acquired.

Any of you members who would like a care pack of a half dozen or so of each of the SB parts that I have — just let me know and I will send them out N/C — just pay the postage after you get the shipment.

I will never use 1% of these parts in the next 30 years.  No bodies, cranks, spools, or sideplates — but most everything else.

Best,

Fred

That mighty generous of you Fred!
If I had room to store them I'd take you up on that!
I'd love to find and rehab more of these reels!
Title: Re: South Bend Classic 935
Post by: xjchad on June 18, 2019, 08:10:44 PM
Finally had a chance to fish this reel.  Went down to the beach on my lunch break for a few minutes.
First cast.  Tap tap.  Hookset.  Fish on!
This little Yellow Fin Croaker put up decent fight.

(http://www.fishy-pix.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/20190618_YFC.jpg)

I abosolutely love this reel!  It is so smooth, and solid feeling and with the AR on the pinion gear it's pretty quiet too.  I love the sound of the AR's on most reels, but little spinners with the AR behind the main gear seem to be so loud. 
Title: Re: South Bend Classic 935
Post by: Alto Mare on June 18, 2019, 08:34:17 PM
Always nice to see vintage reels getting it done. Good job Chad!

Sal
Title: Re: South Bend Classic 935
Post by: Crow on June 18, 2019, 08:55:10 PM
Good job on the reel.....and good job on the "test", as well !
Title: Re: South Bend Classic 935
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on June 18, 2019, 09:07:29 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: South Bend Classic 935
Post by: PacRat on July 28, 2019, 04:16:38 AM
Great job. I have one of these and this post makes me feel like it's ready for a new life. I gave up spinners decades ago but now I have a new interest. Learning more everyday.
-Mike
Title: Re: South Bend Classic 935
Post by: mo65 on July 28, 2019, 01:15:46 PM
Quote from: PacRat on July 28, 2019, 04:16:38 AM
I have one of these and this post makes me feel like it's ready for a new life.

   These South Bend Classics are the real deal Mike. I picked up a 935 I'm working on now...thinking I can make a great catfishing reel out of it. I'm just now getting into this "spinners for catfish" thing. Most folks doing it use new reels...and just toss them after every season. I'd rather use these quality reels. 8)
Title: Re: South Bend Classic 935
Post by: basto on July 28, 2019, 10:04:12 PM
There are so many vintage reels I just can't have because they are left hand wind only. That's why I love the Quicks, Penns, later Cardinals and Shakespeare 2400 series. Very happy anyway.
That South Bend is a very nice reel.
Greg
Title: Re: South Bend Classic 935
Post by: alan weng on May 12, 2022, 09:07:05 AM
I read your comments on south bend classic 935 before I placed a bid on an auction online, thought it was a large reel for surfcasting, just received it yesterday, it is a very cute small light weight reel, I m going to service it in one or two weeks, I love all sort of vintage fishing reel, especially spin reels.

Alan from New Zealand
Title: Re: South Bend Classic 935
Post by: xjchad on May 12, 2022, 02:41:25 PM
Quote from: alan weng on May 12, 2022, 09:07:05 AMI read your comments on south bend classic 935 before I placed a bid on an auction online, thought it was a large reel for surfcasting, just received it yesterday, it is a very cute small light weight reel, I m going to service it in one or two weeks, I love all sort of vintage fishing reel, especially spin reels.

Alan from New Zealand

you are right, it's not a huge reel.  But load it up with some braid and it will handle a lot bigger fish than you'd think! These are built very well.
Title: Re: South Bend Classic 935
Post by: alan weng on March 02, 2023, 09:49:32 AM
Thank you!