spoke to gary at accurate yesterday and got an e-mail from them today. looks like accurate is including an anti-reverse back up dog in their extreme reels. i wonder if it will be available as an upgrade to their older reels.
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What took them so long?
If it's a retrofit, would be nice if they would send out the kits to registered owners upon their request at no charger.
Thats great news. Now we don't have to buy Jigging Masters or Ocea Jiggers for a heavy jigging reel.
well, yes to all of the above. if they are using an ambassaduer style dog, we may have the same problems as seen in the trinidads. if spring loaded, they are going to click!
Quote from: karlk1125;2608353This is phenomenal news!! This will no doubt put accurate back on top...a big thanks to Okuma for pushing Accurate to the dawg, god bless free market competition!
granted, okuma's turn around has probably been a total shock to many, but i doubt that it was the reason for accurate to make the decisions that they did. accurate started the small two-speed craze with the original B-series. it had a skinny drive shaft and two AR bearings. they improved on the B-series with the BX, using a much larger diameter drive shaft and a much larger single AR bearing.
now they are going to an anti-reverse system with an AR bearing and an anti-reverse dog. i do not know if they will be using one AR bearing or two. i also do not know if they will be using one or two dogs, and the design. there are several possible designs.......
an ambassaduer style - a double dog system would be most likely, similar to the shimano trinidad 40. they could lock back either together or in sequence. these are silent, but they CAN fail.
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spring loaded - like the dogs in the penn senator 113hn baja special or the shimano trinidad DC. they will click, but never fail.
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the last is a dog on a stick - this is a silent system that will never fail. the best of both worlds. and yes, this is from a makaira.
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of course, the nilsen boys could have figured out something completely different. i will see them on wednesday at the fred hall show, camera and number 7 torx bit in hand!
Looking forward to your Fred Hall report and pics Alan, enjoy the show.
any one have any pictures of the double dogs from the jiggymeister reels? just curious how they did the mod. Easy upgrade? or might wa have to get a whole new sideplate?
I've got the BX600 with the triple dogs in my hands, early this month in Singapore. The clicking sound is low, less than the JM PE reels. Drive side side plate is about 4mm thicker, that's where the 3 dogs are. Unfortunately only on special order and only on the 600 series at this moment, this according to the Singapore Accurate dealer.
Quote from: Piskada on April 23, 2012, 07:07:43 AM
I've got the BX600 with the triple dogs in my hands, early this month in Singapore. The clicking sound is low, less than the JM PE reels. Drive side side plate is about 4mm thicker, that's where the 3 dogs are. Unfortunately only on special order and only on the 600 series at this moment, this according to the Singapore Accurate dealer.
Is it 3 dogs + the ARB or just 3 dogs on these reels
With the ARB's
Alan,
Have you had a chance to get a look at one of these reels, and could we have an update?
Thanks
Factory upgrades of BX2-600's and BX2-30's now being done.
$125 plus $25 for labor (includes reels service)
New sideplate, main gear and dawg parts.
Call them before you send it in, there may be a bit of an initial rush!
Talked to Perri yesterday and learned that Accurate has decided to leave the IAR bearing out of the Boss Dawg reels, unless you request it to be put in. New ones will be shipped with no IAR bearing. The speed jiggers won't like that
I just bought a few of the new dxp2 dawg reels (500, 600, & 30 size) and noticed that the 500 and 600 don't seem to have an ar (there is some minor back play). I thought the 400,500&600 series reels were supposed to have 3 dogs and an AR and the 30 on up would have no AR bearing. Will accurate sell an AR for the under 30 size reels?
no ar bearing was the final decision.
So what is your take on the new dpx2 reels?
Quote from: alantani on November 05, 2012, 04:24:44 AM
no ar bearing was the final decision.
They will put the IAR bearing in if you request it. I just had them upgrade a BX2-600 and asked that they put the bearing in, and they did. Perri said they had been installing them in some new ones also.
i am still concerned. they still install shielded bearings that are oiled. that leaves them at risk. changing out the dogs for the AR bearings increases their reliability. gears will continue to be another concern. guys tend to push these reels to the max. that can damage the teeth of the gears. as long as replacement gears are available, you will be able to keep these reels in service. when accurate stops supporting these reels and gear run out, you will have some very expensive paper weights.
I was looking at this reel in Singapore. Want to buy for jigging purpose, as the shop owner told me no AR bearing I pause :-\
Quote from: alantani on November 05, 2012, 06:56:13 AM
i am still concerned. they still install shielded bearings that are oiled. that leaves them at risk. changing out the dogs for the AR bearings increases their reliability. gears will continue to be another concern. guys tend to push these reels to the max. that can damage the teeth of the gears. as long as replacement gears are available, you will be able to keep these reels in service. when accurate stops supporting these reels and gear run out, you will have some very expensive paper weights.
Alan - Don't the BX2 and DPX2 have the same gears?
Quote from: FiReWoLf on December 19, 2012, 01:20:16 AM
I was looking at this reel in Singapore. Want to buy for jigging purpose, as the shop owner told me no AR bearing I pause :-\
A buddy of mine have a dpx2 500n bought from anglers outfitter in SGP
N it does have the ar bearings n blue t-bar