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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Newell Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: Norcal Pescador on May 31, 2013, 06:07:36 PM

Title: 300-C Overhaul Expectations
Post by: Norcal Pescador on May 31, 2013, 06:07:36 PM
I have what I need to rebuild a Newell 300-C (Penn 500 to 99 conversion) thanks to Joel.B. I need to know what I can expect as far as practical limits.

Presently, the reel will have a stainless steel yoke and gear sleeve, and a 5:1 s/s gear set from Alan at Black Pearl. Whether it gets a Top Secret 5-stack drag setup remains to be seen. ;D   All other parts are stock Jigmaster or Newell unless Lee is making s/s 500 dogs. The reel will be spooled with 50-pound Spectra over 40-pound mono on a 20-40-pound fiberglass rod. There should be room for a topshot.

Words of wisdom appreciated. Thanks.
Title: Re: 300-C Overhaul Expectations
Post by: BMITCH on May 31, 2013, 06:50:37 PM
NorCal, if Lee doesn't have any of the SS dogs left I still have a couple if you need them. Let me know.
Bob
Title: Re: 300-C Overhaul Expectations
Post by: Norcal Pescador on May 31, 2013, 08:51:08 PM
Quote from: BMITCH on May 31, 2013, 06:50:37 PM
NorCal, if Lee doesn't have any of the SS dogs left I still have a couple if you need them. Let me know.
Bob

Thanks. I'll check with him first.
Title: Re: 300-C Overhaul Expectations
Post by: bluefish69 on May 31, 2013, 09:19:52 PM
I have a few also. You won't go Dogless.

Do you have the Spring??
Title: Re: 300-C Overhaul Expectations
Post by: Joel.B on May 31, 2013, 10:48:51 PM
those bearings that came with those plates have red/black bushing, I don't know if that is for left/right, but maybe somebody  here can answer that and say which goes on what side?
Title: Re: 300-C Overhaul Expectations
Post by: bluefish69 on May 31, 2013, 11:52:56 PM
JoelB

Are you talking about the Bearing Cups??

If yes the RED On the Right & Black "O" Ring Left

Title: Re: 300-C Overhaul Expectations
Post by: Newell Nut on June 01, 2013, 01:52:15 AM
The one with the red split ring on it should tighten all the way on the handle side. The black O ring should be used for spool tension and leave 5 to 10 thousandths of side movement on the spool.
Title: Re: 300-C Overhaul Expectations
Post by: Norcal Pescador on June 01, 2013, 02:58:39 AM
Thanks all, Lee still has some dogs he's shipping down.
Right bearing is tight and left bearing adjusted for end play. Drat, now I'll have to pull a sideplate to make sure the red is right and the black is left. On the other hand Joel had them in place when he shipped me the parts. :-\
I put in new bearings because the right one was a little crunchy and now the spool spins and spins and spins......... :) :)
The reel is spooled up as above and it has a Kolekar "Hotdog" grip. I think I'll be bending a rod a lot with it. 8)
Title: Re: 300-C Overhaul Expectations
Post by: Newell Nut on June 01, 2013, 12:15:07 PM
Newell 300 series are really nice reels. I just finished a new one yesterday. A G 338 F with all red lettering and SS jack and clicker. The red was the first year of the G series. I have P332 spool left from a 322 conversion so I used that spool and a silver Tiburon frame from Gregg Chow. I also installed a new version of the P series aluminum handle.Turned out really nice and spool spins fast and long. The new CFs pull 24 on my scale.
This will be a fun snapper reel.
Title: Re: 300-C Overhaul Expectations
Post by: Joel.B on June 01, 2013, 02:23:30 PM
Quote from: Norcal Pescador on June 01, 2013, 02:58:39 AM
Thanks all, Lee still has some dogs he's shipping down.
Right bearing is tight and left bearing adjusted for end play. Drat, now I'll have to pull a sideplate to make sure the red is right and the black is left. On the other hand Joel had them in place when he shipped me the parts. :-\
I put in new bearings because the right one was a little crunchy and now the spool spins and spins and spins......... :) :)
The reel is spooled up as above and it has a Kolekar "Hotdog" grip. I think I'll be bending a rod a lot with it. 8)

Yeah, I just guessed at which went where- sorry bout that.  You should be able to screw the cup out the side of the plate w/o taking plate off though....I think.....
Title: Re: 300-C Overhaul Expectations
Post by: Norcal Pescador on June 01, 2013, 03:50:57 PM
Quote from: Joel.B on June 01, 2013, 02:23:30 PM
Quote from: Norcal Pescador on June 01, 2013, 02:58:39 AM
Thanks all, Lee still has some dogs he's shipping down.
Right bearing is tight and left bearing adjusted for end play. Drat, now I'll have to pull a sideplate to make sure the red is right and the black is left. On the other hand Joel had them in place when he shipped me the parts. :-\
I put in new bearings because the right one was a little crunchy and now the spool spins and spins and spins......... :) :)
The reel is spooled up as above and it has a Kolekar "Hotdog" grip. I think I'll be bending a rod a lot with it. 8)

Yeah, I just guessed at which went where- sorry bout that.  You should be able to screw the cup out the side of the plate w/o taking plate off though....I think.....

Yeah, I came to the same conclusion last night. I'll give it a try. I always worry about the spool shaft not going into the center of the bearing when I screw it back in. I'm going to install a set of Black Pearl gears, so I'll probably just wait until they arrive. It spins so good right now, why mess with it? "If the da*n thing works, leave it alone," Mr. Murphy said. ;D
Title: Re: 300-C Overhaul Expectations
Post by: doradoben on June 01, 2013, 10:28:02 PM
Spectra over mono (as a filler). You're going to use this to bottom fish?? These old Newells are very cool & not seen very often anymore..
Title: Re: 300-C Overhaul Expectations
Post by: Norcal Pescador on June 02, 2013, 12:15:56 AM
Bottom fish, albacore, dorado, surface iron, live bait. A little bit of this and a little bit of that.
Title: Re: 300-C Overhaul Expectations
Post by: bluefish69 on June 02, 2013, 04:44:17 PM
Rob

The Reel will not go together if the spool is not in the Bearing. I don't bother with the "C" Series because of the Bearing Cups. The "S" Series some have them some don't, I was told the ones that have Bearing Cups that was a $40 extra. The "G" & "P" are the better ones.

Mike
Title: Re: 300-C Overhaul Expectations
Post by: Mentonemoose on June 16, 2013, 05:59:22 AM
Who has stainless dogs for penn 500s? I'd seen that someone had mentioned the were going to make some but haven't been on here for a bit. Hopefully I didn't miss out, I'd like at least 3 for my 501s that are already nearly all stainless. Newell gears, Alan's sleeve, jack, etc! ???
Title: Re: 300-C Overhaul Expectations
Post by: alantani on June 16, 2013, 06:53:35 AM
Quote from: Mentonemoose on June 16, 2013, 05:59:22 AM
Who has stainless dogs for penn 500s? I'd seen that someone had mentioned the were going to make some but haven't been on here for a bit. Hopefully I didn't miss out, I'd like at least 3 for my 501s that are already nearly all stainless. Newell gears, Alan's sleeve, jack, etc! ???

lee does, and so do i.  i am also putting together kits with the stainless steel gear sleeve, a stainless pin, a stainless dog and carbontex drag that goes under the main gear.  send an e-mail if you'd like any parts or all.  thanks!  alan
Title: Re: 300-C Overhaul Expectations
Post by: Mentonemoose on June 16, 2013, 07:07:42 AM
Is KETA the Lee you speak of?
Title: Re: 300-C Overhaul Expectations
Post by: alantani on June 16, 2013, 07:16:46 AM
Yes!  He is the source of all stainless steel dogs!
Title: Re: 300-C Overhaul Expectations
Post by: Keta on June 16, 2013, 02:40:06 PM
An order was made for another run of 15-500 dogs but the cutter is doing some maintenance on his machine but as soon as he's done I'll have more.
Title: Re: 300-C Overhaul Expectations
Post by: BMITCH on June 16, 2013, 08:48:44 PM
Check with Keta. He is the man as far as many of the SS dogs.
Bob
Title: Re: 300-C Overhaul Expectations
Post by: Norcal Pescador on June 16, 2013, 11:53:18 PM


;D ;D   HIJACKED!   ;D ;D
Title: Re: 300-C Overhaul Expectations
Post by: Mentonemoose on June 18, 2013, 01:23:37 AM
Sorry about that Rob. How did that rebuild go?
Title: Re: 300-C Overhaul Expectations
Post by: Norcal Pescador on June 18, 2013, 04:10:18 PM
What did I say? Looking back at my original post, the reel WILL HAVE the 5:1 gears from (BP) Alan and s/s dog. It's spooled with 300 yards of 50 pound Spectra over 40# mono. I have yet to use it.  :-\  The first trip I'll be looking for some big lingcod with it then some halibut. Because of it's great freespool I'll use it as a live bait / surface jig reel for anything under about 80 pounds. Will let you know! ;)
Title: Re: 300-C Overhaul Expectations
Post by: Newell Nut on June 19, 2013, 12:51:26 PM
I believe you have built a fine reel and will have lots of fun with it. I had fun catching cobia, snapper and AJs Saturday with a Newell 322.