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Title: 3 Way Switch Question
Post by: Bill B on December 06, 2022, 10:45:38 PM
Kind of a long story, I have a light fixture over the detached garage and the light is controlled by a 3 way switch in the garage (I pulled the cover plate and confirmed the switch is a three way).  I do have an electrical box in the house that has a 3 way circuit not connected to anything, which is located in a logical place to put a 3 way for the garage fixture.

Now 2 questions:

1. Would the light still work without the second switch?  Assuming the second missing switch is at the end of the circuit.

2. Is the picture below a switch that has 3 way on top and single pole on the bottom? The electrical box in question, already has a single pole switch for a different fixture.

Bill

Title: Re: 3 Way Switch Question
Post by: foakes on December 06, 2022, 11:28:21 PM
A 3-way switch requires 3-way wiring (red, black, white —- and is designed to work from a power source that will operate a light fixture from (2) 3-way switch locations.

The red & black are your "traveler" wires between the (2) 3-way switches.  The white is your neutral, the copper is the ground.

A/C power is not like DC power. A/C either works —- or it doesn't.

Problems arise when wire colors are mixed up, capped off, or not proper.  Maybe it will work —- but when you need to get into the box 30 years from now —- you will have forgotten how things were short-cutted and made to work.  Or, even a subsequent future owner of your house.

Then, there is a insurance and liability issue even decades down the road —- if the work was not done according to accepted electrical codes.  And a potential life-threatening or property damage issue happens.

I am not comfortable giving electrical advice without being on the job-site hands on.

Probably best to just have a licensed electrician come out and  install a couple of 3-ways, proper gauge wiring, and check the light these operate.

Might be a $150 - $200 job plus a few bucks in parts.

Good piece of mind, complete, and safe.

Yes, anything can be done —- but with electrical A/C —- there is the right way and no other, IMO, Bill.

I have seen too many homes destroyed by improper wiring.  Been on a few of those incidents with the Fire Department.

Best Always, Fred
Title: Re: 3 Way Switch Question
Post by: Bill B on December 07, 2022, 01:51:11 AM
Thank you Fred.

I did find out that the switch above is 3 way on top and single pole on the bottom.  Now I need to trace the wires in the box back to the source.
Title: Re: 3 Way Switch Question
Post by: Wally15 on December 07, 2022, 09:55:37 PM
Quote from: Bill B on December 07, 2022, 01:51:11 AMThank you Fred.

I did find out that the switch above is 3 way on top and single pole on the bottom.  Now I need to trace the wires in the box back to the source.
An easy way to tell them apart; the 2 way has OFF-ON stamped on the toggle and the 3 way doesn't have anything.
GA Mike - who thinks AC/DC is a Rock 'n Roll band
Title: Re: 3 Way Switch Question
Post by: oldmanjoe on December 08, 2022, 01:30:55 AM
 This may help you.
https://www.easy-do-it-yourself-home-improvements.com/3-way-switch-wiring-diagram.html

  You did not give enough information to give you a honest answer .   Pay attention to were you power is coming from ...
Title: Re: 3 Way Switch Question
Post by: Shellbelly on December 08, 2022, 02:40:55 AM
A tone generator is a handy tool.  Costs anywhere from 15 to 50 bucks.  Helps identify isolated circuit wiring and is great for finding wire in walls.  Saves you from running back and forth to hear your meter beep. 

Safety first!  Since I didn't wire my house, I turn off the main breaker (isolate solar, too) and use battery task lighting.  Even though I'm from the trade, I'll hire an Electrician for anything beyond simple stuff.  I did the time without getting popped.  No need to risk it now on my time. 

In many electrical-related injuries, it's the "kneejerk" reaction that causes unfortunate injury.