Reel Repair by Alan Tani

Quotewhen I push/pull the handle in and out, it does feel like it has an inordinate amount of play back and forth.

If the gear stud (handle shaft) has too much back and forth play, it can allow the shift arm to slide under the ratchet. This seems to be aligned with the symptoms.  Also, the shaft is relying on the clutch bearing to support the far end of the shaft, which is a design no-no.  When winding under load, you could be getting the shaft lifting out/ and/or angling out of alignment, both of which will allow the shift arm pin to get under the ratchet.  If you clean the grease of the pinion and spool spindle where they meet, you should see some signs of wear from the two not fully engaging. Pinion slots look worn to me, but it may just be the grease.  Hard to tell from the photo.

There are other possibilities in the same neighborhood. Maybe check out the gear stud bushing for wear, and also look for the cause of the shaft shifting...

On post 22 of Alan's thread on this reel, somebody posted a photo of the shift arm pin getting under the ratchet.  Don't think it was resolved in the thread.

-J

Quote from: Keta on May 19, 2024, 07:35:38 PMOn my recent 3 day BFT trip one of the guys brought a new reel to me and asked if I could fix it, he said that the reel had no drag.  I took one look at it and figured out the problem, the idiot that spooled it for him put it on looser than I have ever seen,  I could push the line in 1/8".  We went to the stern, tied a solid ring to his line and let all of the line out.  There was no tape on the spool and BS alleged "arbor knot".  I taped the spool and tied a double clove hitch locked with a uni knot then we both took turns winding the line back on.  Simple stuff but he thinks I am a "reel" genius.  Another person, and a friend, had a Avet that sounded like a coffee grinder, I told him it was a pinion bearing and I did not have one.  Fortunatly one of my line customers that I have been communicating with about gear before his first BFT trip had a bearing and the reel was put to work.  PBs for many were caught on this trip.

And yet Joe doesn't understand how to make the line slip on the spool!

Quote from: alantani on May 19, 2024, 11:03:34 PMand, somehow, these guys catch fish......   

Not without a bit of help.

Quote from: boon on May 19, 2024, 10:16:47 PMI have a "Bees Knees" spooling drag system from Busted Fishing and I would have to say it's the best I've played with so far. No motorised spooler for the reel though, just me cranking away.

It has two issues, though. At very low drag settings, the fill spool spins on the cones instead of the drag spinning, but the spooling tension required in those instances is relatively low anyway.
When spooling with higher drag, I have occasionally had the braid dig into the fill spool. Manufacturers aren't winding those on under much tension.

I understand the problem , may I suggest you try a zig zag board after the Bees Knees to create the extra drag you are looking for . you can try different combinations when winding around the pegs for drag . 

and, somehow, these guys catch fish......   

I have a "Bees Knees" spooling drag system from Busted Fishing and I would have to say it's the best I've played with so far. No motorised spooler for the reel though, just me cranking away.

It has two issues, though. At very low drag settings, the fill spool spins on the cones instead of the drag spinning, but the spooling tension required in those instances is relatively low anyway.
When spooling with higher drag, I have occasionally had the braid dig into the fill spool. Manufacturers aren't winding those on under much tension.

Sixtyish, plus some parts reels or reels I hope to eventually fix up but are not usable right now. Out of the 60+, all are users and none are shelfies; a handful I do not use very often and probably should move out.

Frank

 It`s hard to believe that a simple knot gives fisherman such a hard time . That with not putting enough tension on the spool.  Some how it does amuse me to watch the look on there faces .

On my recent 3 day BFT trip one of the guys brought a new reel to me and asked if I could fix it, he said that the reel had no drag.  I took one look at it and figured out the problem, the idiot that spooled it for him put it on looser than I have ever seen,  I could push the line in 1/8".  We went to the stern, tied a solid ring to his line and let all of the line out.  There was no tape on the spool and BS alleged "arbor knot".  I taped the spool and tied a double clove hitch locked with a uni knot then we both took turns winding the line back on.  Simple stuff but he thinks I am a "reel" genius.  Another person, and a friend, had a Avet that sounded like a coffee grinder, I told him it was a pinion bearing and I did not have one.  Fortunatly one of my line customers that I have been communicating with about gear before his first BFT trip had a bearing and the reel was put to work.  PBs for many were caught on this trip.

  At this point I am looking for critical thinkers . I don`t take offence to anything said , I learn from mistakes . Don`t be afraid to pick it apart ,we are here to learn .  Yes it looks like junk yard parts , but until I work out the bugs it`s easier to change designs .

  I will put short videos up so as to not make it boring ,but detailed enough to see the little problem that occurs .  When they do pop up ,I do stop to fix it .  If you don`t It will keep getting bigger .

      The power head :  2 speeds wiper motor wired with 3 switches . One is the 2 speeds "toggle switch" the coiled wire is a monetary switch used for setting line at the end points . The other switch is for turn on constant speed .

 

The next video is the base wrap set on the arbor and just machine winding .  Pick the flaw .
   

Another one later on  .  https:I