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Title: 113H Gears Mystery
Post by: Dragalioun on January 20, 2024, 05:04:21 PM
Morning folks, I've been trampled with school and life for a good few months so I've been out of the game until recently.

I've been messing around with a 113H I picked up about a year back and I've been perpelxed by the gears it has. It originally came with these gears I assumed were just the older stock penn steel gears (which was very rusty originally so I ended up swapping them out with the bronze/SS gears from a parts 113H). On second look though, I'm not sure what they came from. The main gear has 50 teeth and the pinion has only 12 making a 4.1:1 ratio, not what the stock penn steelies were from my research. Yet, they dont look like any stainless gears I've found (especially the pinion; the main gear does look somewhat similar to the newell 4:1 gears). Do you folk have any idea what they could be??
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Title: Re: 113H Gears Mystery
Post by: Wilmar on January 20, 2024, 07:43:30 PM
I'm not going to be of help but I love these kinds of questions.
Title: Re: 113H Gears Mystery
Post by: Swami805 on January 20, 2024, 09:05:11 PM
Could be accurate gears
Title: Re: 113H Gears Mystery
Post by: Surfrat on January 21, 2024, 02:14:45 AM
Could be the Newell speed upgrade gears or the Accurate gears.
Title: Re: 113H Gears Mystery
Post by: Gfish on January 21, 2024, 02:50:12 AM
I have a modded 113H and it's got 4.1:1 ratio. The gears are Pro Challenger HX. Check in the "For Sale" section here.
Title: Re: 113H Gears Mystery
Post by: Dragalioun on January 21, 2024, 06:10:24 PM
Quote from: Gfish on January 21, 2024, 02:50:12 AMI have a modded 113H and it's got 4.1:1 ratio. The gears are Pro Challenger HX. Check in the "For Sale" section here.

Ooo that looks like a winner for sure, thank you all for your help. As long as they're stainless steel I'm more than satisfied, just one step closer to making a 113H tank of my own
Title: Re: 113H Gears Mystery
Post by: Keta on January 21, 2024, 06:40:15 PM
I have never seen pitted Pro Chalenger gears.
Title: Re: 113H Gears Mystery
Post by: Rocket Dog on January 21, 2024, 10:56:27 PM
i have some old newell gears that looked like that when i got them. noisy aswell
Title: Re: 113H Gears Mystery
Post by: Hardy Boy on January 21, 2024, 11:53:44 PM
I dont mind the noise knowing that I have steel.

Todd
Title: Re: 113H Gears Mystery
Post by: alantani on January 22, 2024, 05:35:13 AM
judging by the angle of the gear teeth, i would guess that they are newell gears.  the accurate gear teeth had more of a slant. 
Title: Re: 113H Gears Mystery
Post by: Bryan Young on January 22, 2024, 03:45:44 PM
Those are Newell's stainless steel 4:1 gears for the Penn 113H.  Newell's tend to have a little rust since they are heat treated burning off some of the protective nickel that makes up the chemistry for stainless steel.  Also, judging from the gear cuts, those are also Newell.  Accurate and ProChallenger do not have a straight cut in the gears like your's does.  These are strong gears but a little noisy in general.
Title: Re: 113H Gears Mystery
Post by: day0ne on January 22, 2024, 07:20:18 PM
Don't forget that ebay had some Chinese gears made in a lesser stainless. Not necessarily bad but different.
Title: Re: 113H Gears Mystery
Post by: PacRat on January 22, 2024, 09:03:16 PM
I'm in the Newell camp here. Great score!
Title: Re: 113H Gears Mystery
Post by: Bryan Young on January 23, 2024, 05:03:38 AM
Newell 4:1 stainless steel gears
Title: Re: 113H Gears Mystery
Post by: Bryan Young on January 23, 2024, 05:04:23 AM
Accurate 4:1 stainless steel gears
Title: Re: 113H Gears Mystery
Post by: Bryan Young on January 23, 2024, 05:05:17 AM
Penn Anniversary Special stainless steel 3.25:1 gears
Title: Re: 113H Gears Mystery
Post by: Bryan Young on January 23, 2024, 05:06:03 AM
And Pro Challenger 4:1 stainless steel gears
Title: Re: 113H Gears Mystery
Post by: Rocket Dog on January 23, 2024, 05:06:58 AM
Woah, Bryan, them are some gears there.