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Title: A very rare little Penn reel!
Post by: Penn Chronology on June 17, 2016, 02:57:57 AM
Every now and then, a super rare item comes along. I am always looking for these items and hardly ever finding one; but, this reel was different. I saw a photo of it years ago and thought I recognized it as a oddly small Long Beach. The reel would hardly raise an eyebrow among Penn collectors until you look at from all angles. Looking at the side plate immediately tells us what we have as far as a base model is concerned.


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              Just a plain old Penn Beachmaster Model 160. Must be thousands of them out there. Small in diameter, two and one eighth inch wide spool. Sure, us Penn guys have seen these a million times; but, wait!! What is going on here? Let's try looking at this reel a bit differently. Start to turn this little reel around and things start to get weird.


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Seems like there is not enough reel to be a Model 160?


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Looking at the reel from the tail plate does not help. It has part number for a Long Beach spool bearing. A stippled tail plate for a Penn 160; but, it still looks weird!!


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Now we need another angle. Looking at this reel straight on the forward end just blows away all the norms a Penn collector would expect to find in any Penn reel. Here is a Penn reel with all the standard gears, drags and anti-reverse mechanicals. It has a standard head and tail plate, chrome plated spool, rings and stand; but, it is as narrow as a fly reel.


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Looking at the bottom of the reel raises many more questions. The stand seems to be bent tighter than any other Penn reel in the entire history of Penn Production.


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Checking the stand Part Number opens another can of oddball worms. This is one of the most common of all Penn stands. It fits many different Penn reels; but, the one we see here will only fit this odd Penn Beachmaster.

                What is interesting here is there is a unconfirmed story that came along with this oddity. I was thinking this was a one-off Penn reel; but, I was told there are two other of these. A set of three reels were made in the Penn plant to be used to troll teasers on the Penn Company Sport fishing boat used as a test platform. That means there are two more of these out there!
Title: Re: A very rare little Penn reel!
Post by: steelhead_killer on June 17, 2016, 03:30:26 AM
Very cool!  Thank you for sharing!
Title: Re: A very rare little Penn reel!
Post by: Shark Hunter on June 17, 2016, 04:24:02 AM
Amazing Mike! :o
Title: Re: A very rare little Penn reel!
Post by: David Hall on June 17, 2016, 05:04:01 AM
Interesting little reel, I pray I never run across one!  It would probably eat my retirement.
Title: Re: A very rare little Penn reel!
Post by: foakes on June 17, 2016, 05:37:14 AM
That is a very special and neat reel, Michael --

Was looking for some parts today, ran across a few reels in the bottom of an old box from a closed tackle shop estate.  Might have picked this up 20 years ago, never had a chance to go through it yet.

No big deals here, but thought they were kind of neat.

Your neat Penn find is much more valuable, interesting, and rare -- but these are just solid old reels.

Little OC from Philadelphia -- 987 -- green spool and handle -- 1 3/8" posts.

Old 113D True Temper -- of course made by OC.

Old JA Coxe #630 300yd made in Bronson, Michigan.

Someday, might get a chance to go through these reels.  Have found around 100 old Ocean Citys so far.

Probably someone else will get to go through these, at some point.

Not meaning to hijack your cool thread -- just saw that little narrow OC 987.

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: A very rare little Penn reel!
Post by: Penn Chronology on June 17, 2016, 06:19:05 AM
Happy to share.

Yes Fred, I am sure your OC reels would take much of your time. Ocean City was a complicated company. As I was going through the Ocean City history I started using a two word expression very often to describe the many sides of Ocean City. I referred to many of the company history results as the "Confusion Aspect". I even feel that the over complicated nature of how Ocean City named their products and tried to keep a organized parts supply available to the market may have played a part in their eventual end. The actual time span of the existence of the Ocean City Mfg. company was only 34 years, from 1923 to 1957. Their products were around before and after the OC Company existed under other company names.

Thanks for the responses!
Title: Re: A very rare little Penn reel!
Post by: Tightlines667 on June 17, 2016, 06:25:52 AM
That one really threw me for a loop Mike.  I mean the stand is clearly stamped.  That is pretty much the defination if a rare reel (only 3 ever known to have been produced). 

Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: A very rare little Penn reel!
Post by: mo65 on June 17, 2016, 12:54:52 PM
Very interesting...thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: A very rare little Penn reel!
Post by: Bryan Young on June 17, 2016, 01:41:10 PM
That is one neat little reel Mike. 
Title: Re: A very rare little Penn reel!
Post by: Bill B on June 17, 2016, 03:29:35 PM
Darn, now that Mike spilled the beans, my chances of paying $5 at a garage sale fro one are close to nil... :D  Mike you always amaze us with these little tid bits from Penn Reels...thanks brother.....Bill
Title: Re: A very rare little Penn reel!
Post by: coastal_dan on June 17, 2016, 04:48:19 PM
Neat!  Reminds me of a 'Ted Creation', haha.
Title: Re: A very rare little Penn reel!
Post by: Maxed Out on June 17, 2016, 04:54:17 PM
Dan, only Penn can create such a reel, and only Mike can find such a reel.

Mike, just add a rod clamp and it'll be complete  ;D ;D. You did not mention anything about the frame posts. They appear to be larger diameter than stock long beach or 160 posts. Whatever the case may be, I love it.

P.S. Mike, I'm still up for adoption.

 Ted
Title: Re: A very rare little Penn reel!
Post by: sdlehr on June 17, 2016, 05:19:16 PM
Maybe I'm missing something. It looks like they took a 200 stand and narrowed it... Why did they start with a 200? Surely other, more narrow stands could have worked as well, with less work as they would have started out narrower.... and I agree with Ted, those posts look thicker than stock.

Mike, what can you tell us about where this came from? I don't need names or addresses, just general info to satisfy my curiosity.

Sid
Title: Re: A very rare little Penn reel!
Post by: George4741 on June 18, 2016, 03:40:03 AM
Mike, thanks for showing us another of your treasures.  It reminds me of another of your super narrow reels, the 60 yard Long Beach.  I'm hopelessly narrow minded ::) so, the narrower the better.

Speaking of oddly marked Penn parts, I have a plastic spool clearly marked "29-155" but it is much narrower, identical to the 29-100 spool.
Title: Re: A very rare little Penn reel!
Post by: Penn Chronology on June 18, 2016, 06:23:54 AM
OK, since no paper exists on this reel, I have to go by the true physical dimensions and styles to determine a little bit of history. The info that the person gave me about the reel was as I stated. It was made in a set of three reels to use to troll teasers. The person that passed the reel to me got that info as hearsay also; but we are talking about hearsay from Penn people, from the days of when Penn was still an American company. So I feel the hearsay is good info.

As far as the physical aspects of the reel, the side plates, trim rings, handle, star wheel and internals are all off the shelf parts. The odd parts here are the cross bars, spool and stand.


QuoteYou did not mention anything about the frame posts. They appear to be larger diameter than stock long beach or 160 posts. Whatever the case may be, I love it.
The diameter of the cross bars is 3/16 inch. That is a standard size cross bar for any Penn Beachmaster 155 or 160. What makes the bars look heavy is the fact that they are so narrow. The cross bars length measure just a bit over 15/16 inch.
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QuoteMaybe I'm missing something. It looks like they took a 200 stand and narrowed it... Why did they start with a 200? Surely other, more narrow stands could have worked as well, with less work as they would have started out narrower.
The people at Penn probably used a 200 stand because they had a lot of metal to work with.
 (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/Penn%20Model%20160---NARROWED/1950s%20Penn%20160--NARROWED%20Spec%20Photos%20amp%20Measurments%20004%20816%20x%20648_zpsfis8bagb.jpg)   The actual finished stand is done very nicely. All clean cuts and chrome plated. I guess starting with a 200 stand, there is a lot of metal to work with because of the mass of this particular stand that is built for use with a rod clamp.

The reel is really a tight little assembly. I do not think it would have worked for a regular production reel because it is actually tiny and back in the pre-braid days, you would not have gotten much mono on this reel.
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QuoteMike, thanks for showing us another of your treasures.  It reminds me of another of your super narrow reels, the 60 yard Long Beach.  I'm hopelessly narrow minded Roll Eyes so, the narrower the better
This is the 60 yard Long Beach. I was mistaken when I talked about that small Long Beach, because at that time I only had a single photo of the reel and I called it by the wrong model name. The 60 Long Beach is actually this tiny Beachmaster.
Title: Re: A very rare little Penn reel!
Post by: broadway on June 18, 2016, 05:31:48 PM
Now that's a reel for a true Penn collector, send it over, lol.
You never cease to amaze me with what you find.  That's a very special reel in these eyes :o
Thanks for sharing what's out there... my eyes re now peeled!
Dom
Title: Re: A very rare little Penn reel!
Post by: Penn Chronology on June 18, 2016, 10:27:01 PM
QuoteThat's a very special reel in these eyes Shocked
Thanks for sharing what's out there... my eyes re now peeled!
Dom

Keep looking, there are at least two more of these.

Sorry I missed everyone on the Penn trip. I was hit with a health problem and simply could not make it.
Title: Re: A very rare little Penn reel!
Post by: broadway on June 19, 2016, 01:39:20 AM
We were sorry you couldn't make it as well.  It would've been just that much more special of a day and they may have even opened the display case for YOU. ;)
My eyes are peeled  8)
Dom
Title: Re: A very rare little Penn reel!
Post by: Alto Mare on June 19, 2016, 01:43:49 AM
Yup! it would have made it that much fun with Mike there.
Cool little reel Mike, are you sure there are more?, I would think that was a one trime deal. :-\
Title: Re: A very rare little Penn reel!
Post by: Penn Chronology on June 19, 2016, 06:32:37 AM
QuoteCool little reel Mike, are you sure there are more?, I would think that was a one trime deal. Undecided

I cannot be sure. The info I received was there were three of them; but, I have no proof.

QuoteWe were sorry you couldn't make it as well.  It would've been just that much more special of a day and they may have even opened the display case for YOU.

I have been in touch with Tony about the display case. He cannot open it. I think someone absconded with the key. I suspect that case has not been opened in a long time, it is like a vault...............<:O(             Some very special reels in that case.
Title: Re: A very rare little Penn reel!
Post by: Bill B on June 20, 2016, 02:04:13 AM
I have a friend that's a locksmith/safe cracker.....I'm sure he would be available..... ::)
Title: Re: A very rare little Penn reel!
Post by: Penn Chronology on June 20, 2016, 04:14:48 PM
QuoteI have a friend that's a locksmith/safe cracker.....I'm sure he would be available

Somehow I feel that idea would not go over so well at the Penn Plant.  ;)
Title: Re: A very rare little Penn reel!
Post by: coastal_dan on June 20, 2016, 04:38:46 PM
Tony mentioned that they were all cleaned a few years back...maybe 'The Borrowers' have the key  ;)
Title: Re: A very rare little Penn reel!
Post by: Penn Chronology on June 21, 2016, 05:53:39 AM
QuoteTony mentioned that they were all cleaned a few years back...maybe 'The Borrowers' have the key

Well if the "Borrowers" have the key, I see a problem. We will never find it in the plant. Too many places to hide....................<:O(
Title: Re: A very rare little Penn reel!
Post by: captquint99 on November 25, 2019, 02:16:45 PM
Wow, just came across this old thread. Very cool reel. I just love the simple penn long beach series. I put alot of fish to sleep with a 60 and 65. I would love to fish with that one.
Title: Re: A very rare little Penn reel!
Post by: Penn Chronology on November 26, 2019, 07:56:08 PM
OK, real quick. I will come back to this later. I have a bit of info on this reel. It is specially made for Martha Henze as a super light tackle or fly reel. I know who made it, he is Penn's top designer / engineer from the 1960's, 70's & 80's maybe into the 90's. Stand is a Squidder 140 / Jigmaster 500 stand that was cut down, re-bent and plated for these reels only. Production numbers are vague but the most is ""several"", which is really low production (prototype zone). A few were sold at the 2003 Penn auction. Completely done for Martha, never was produced for sale. It is built off a Penn 160 frame.
Title: Re: A very rare little Penn reel!
Post by: 1badf350 on November 26, 2019, 08:46:03 PM
Wow this is the first time I've seen this thread! That's a hell of a cool reel Mike!
Title: Re: A very rare little Penn reel!
Post by: Penn Chronology on November 27, 2019, 03:17:30 AM
QuoteWow this is the first time I've seen this thread! That's a hell of a cool reel Mike!

Yes it is. It was gifted to me by Bruce Davis, one of the authors of the Penn History article in the 2005 catalog. Bruce had an inside line to many secrets back about 15 years ago. Anyway, I doubt if more than a few of these exist (Hearsay History tells me only three were made). The one I have is made from a Model 160. I was told that others were made from the Model 180. "Rare" is the word of the day when referring to this reel. Here are photos of mine. Please excuse the condition, it has been sitting for years in a cabinet uncleaned. Needs a Ted treatment.

The handle knob color is late 1950's, since all I have seen of these are exactly the same, I would say this reel is a 1957 or 58 creation.