I got my Shark Handles from Adam (Three se7ens) today. Its a good Day to Be the Shark Hunter! ;D
They need polishing and a little tweaking, but they are all I expected them to be. ;) Thank You Adam! ;)
Ok that's just plain badass!!
These are more than a chore to polish. I spent about an hour shaping the hole for an ss sleeve, shaping the edges a bit, and taking some sharpness off the tail. All that's left is the engraving. Its shiny enough for me. :D
That's cool! looks like it could double as a beer opener too.
Quote from: surfcaster on March 23, 2014, 02:25:09 PM
.... looks like it could double as a beer opener too.
I thought the same thing, I had a "church key" that looked somewhat similar.
Not as Nice as yours Lee. ;)
But it will do. :D
Quote from: Shark Hunter on March 23, 2014, 03:28:14 AM
These are more than a chore to polish. I spent about an hour shaping the hole for an ss sleeve, shaping the edges a bit, and taking some sharpness off the tail. All that's left is the engraving. Its shiny enough for me. :D
Daron: I have one coming. I did not know something had to be done to make it fit the 9/0. What needs to be done? That question goes to Se7en Seas also. Dominck
Quote from: Shark Hunter on March 23, 2014, 08:49:53 PM
Not as Nice as yours Lee. ;)
But it will do. :D
Nothing that 30-45 minutes on the belt sander and polishing wheel can't cure.
I have stainless sleeves in all my 114H's and 9/0's. It took a little filing to get it to fit. If you have a brass sleeve, which is what these were modeled on. It should fit without as much modification. This type of thing can be expected with custom parts like these. The handle holes are perfect for the counter bored spindle. For a first Run, I think Adam did quite well! ;D
Quote from: Shark Hunter on March 23, 2014, 10:18:26 PM
I have stainless sleeves in all my 114H's and 9/0's. It took a little filing to get it to fit. If you have a brass sleeve, which is what these were modeled on. It should fit without as much modification. This type of thing can be expected with custom parts like these. The handle holes are perfect for the counter bored spindle. For a first Run, I think Adam did quite well! ;D
I have a SS sleeve for the 9/0. I am thinking about what is the best way to double dog it. I don't know if my friend Sal has the expertise to do a double dog on a 9/0. ;) Dominick
I fitted each one to the brass sleeve 114h I have, and they fit fine, if not a hair tight. If the SS sleeves are oversize, I'll change the drawing to suit. As it is I spent more time filing than I wanted to...
The SS sleeve should be the same size as the brass. I haven't gotten to mine yet. Dominick
Not to threadjack...but
Adam,
Is it possible to get these in the smaller reels like the 113H and jigmasters? Also could we do other fish like amberjack and tuna?
Thanks,
I like it Daron! There'll be no mistaking what you're hunting on the beach. sick ;)
Quote from: surfcaster on March 23, 2014, 02:25:09 PM
That's cool! looks like it could double as a beer opener too.
Now we're talking!!
Quote from: maxpowers on March 24, 2014, 04:32:12 AM
Not to threadjack...but
Adam,
Is it possible to get these in the smaller reels like the 113H and jigmasters? Also could we do other fish like amberjack and tuna?
Thanks,
I'm already on it. I've got a 113h I can test fit parts to, but none of the smaller ones. I'll need to get my hands on a jig master sleeve to fit the parts to. The shop is a bit backed up at the moment, but I'll see if I can fit in a few of the shark handles for the 113h this week, and start drawing some new designs.
Adam,
I can send you a SS jigmaster gear sleeve for your testing. Let me know.
Quote from: Three se7ens on March 24, 2014, 12:04:40 AM
I fitted each one to the brass sleeve 114h I have, and they fit fine, if not a hair tight. If the SS sleeves are oversize, I'll change the drawing to suit. As it is I spent more time filing than I wanted to...
I'm not complaining, its just that the soft brass sleeves lose their original shape over time. The stainless ones do not. Probably five or ten minutes with a diamond file and they fit perfect. It only took that long, because I was careful not to remove too much. You did good Adam! ;)
Fitting them is one of the things that take me 45 minutes to 1 hour each to get ready to sell. Breaking taps is another "problem". They cost me $6.00 each to cut and are a PIA but I should have a few more ready to work on this week.
Lee, what size is the tap? Are you using a drill for 50% threads or 75%? Small taps are easy to break. I've broken my share.
Bob
Lee, 50% threads in steel and stainless are stronger than the fastener. Also, quality taps and a good tapping fluid make a difference too. 75% threads are for aluminum and soft materials.
For a 4-40 tap you should be using a #41 drill in steel, and a #43 for aluminum and plastics.
I use a TiN coated hss tap, starting it with a taper tap, and even a 4-40 tap goes into 316 SS like butter.
The cutting fluid I use is tap magic pro tap, and am very happy with its results in stainless.
For drill bits, I only use cobalt steel. Stainless work hardens, so don't dwell. Drill slowly and use as much pressure as the drill bit will allow. Again, cutting fluid really helps with stainless.
The screw is brass and they tend to strip out easy in a 50% thread. If I take it 1/3 of a turn at a time and clear the chips several times they don't break, when I get greedy and don't I loose a tap and handle arm.
If you break a tap, the part can usually be salvaged. Taps are brittle, and can be broken into small pieces with a sharp punch without damaging the threads much of the time.
Taper taps really do make starting it easier, and it spreads the cutting forces along 7-9 teeth instead of the usual 3-4 with plug taps.
The stainless is soft and so far I haven't successfully removed a broken one, even with a tap extractor. I just have to do it slowly.
We used to drill all holes in stainless 316 a 1/16th over the recommended tapping size. This save a lot of stress & taps. 304 is not as bad, but it's not marine grade either so you can get surface rust on it.
Rgds
Mark
I have one handle left from this batch, sized to fit the 114h/115. $18 plus shipping. PM me if you want it.
After looking into it more, I think penn used a proprietary thread on the handle lock screw. #4 measures 0.112" major diameter, while the handle lock screw I measured at 0.120". That doesn't match up with any standard screw size. M3 0.6mm is the closest match at 0.118" major diameter and 42 threads per inch. I'll have to test fit it to be sure though.
All handles I sell will come with a new stainless Allen head screw for the handle lock screw, and I'll continue using a#4-40 tap on my handles
Penn handle screws (23-60) are 5-40 UNC (0.125 in dia.)
I picked up my Handles from the Engraver today. They are not cut as deep as I would like, but They are complete now. I wanted to get Tom's Frames engraved, but I couldn't find anybody that would do it.
Most custom engravers mainly do Jewelry or small tags to go on trophies. This is going to have to do.
When the light hits them right, they pop pretty good. If you can't tell from the pictures. The Top one says Shark Hunter and the bottom one has alantani.com. ;D
They came out nice. Going to be nice Bling on your reels.
Mike
Thanks Mike!
Very nice buddy. You know, that one with your name really sparkles when the light hits it ;).
Looking good!
Eta: long before I started working at the waterjet shop, I had some tools made there, and I had them engrave my logo on them. It sounds like this is more along the lines of what you wanted. It wasn't cheap, I think about $15 per piece, but they did a spectacular job.
Thanks again Adam for making these for me. Life is Good! ;D