I have a tube of blue Loctite thread blocker. I never used it before. I expected it to have the consistency of something like a loose glue (think wood glue). However, when I point the tube at the threads on a screw the liquid runs like water. It drips off the threads and runs all over my work bench. It is difficult to control. You members with experience using thread blocker please let me know if this seems right or do you think I have a defective batch of thread blocker. Dominick
seems like the same consistency of the blue loctite, its like kids water color
That's a good description Alex. Runny just like that. The Tank's handle came off after using that watery stuff. I don't remember cleaning the screws first, something I learned since using it that one time. Life is a learning experience. Dominick
Try this one, it might stay on better:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/PERMATEX-Medium-Strength-Threadloc-24005-/391773060697?hash=item5b377e7e59:g:SrYAAOSwrhBZMa98
Hey Dominick,
If you have shaken it well a few drops should not run off like water. If you look at the Simple Acrylic Installation guide you'll see a few drops have stayed on the threads. Seeing how things are loosening up on you, I would re-clean everything and put a light coat across the threads. On the flanged end you wont have to worry about getting Loctite into the shaft but on the knob side your going to have to be more careful as you wouldn't want any getting in between the shaft and the tube.
Another alternative is to use some Loctite primer first. Lastly you could consider red but that usually takes heat to loosen. (never had the need for this) I have these set up on at least 7 or 8 reels and none have loosened up yet using the blue.
If you still have trouble, please PM me and we'll get you going.
Have a great evening, .. Lou
PS Agree with Sal's choice. If your not using the primer, this would be a better alternative. Auto parts store should carry it too.
Thanks Sal and Lou. I will resolve it. Dominick
Quote from: Dominick on June 08, 2017, 01:38:36 AM
Thanks Sal and Lou. I will resolve it. Dominick
add a little corn starch stirring in slowly
steve
It has settled and needs to be shaken up. Loctite 242 (blue) is thin but not that thin.
I have been using Loctite 246 Medium Strength with no problems
Mike
Quote from: swill88 on June 08, 2017, 03:13:46 AM
Quote from: Dominick on June 08, 2017, 01:38:36 AM
Thanks Sal and Lou. I will resolve it. Dominick
add a little corn starch stirring in slowly
steve
I thought the same thing, Have you done this Steve?
Quote from: bluefish69 on June 08, 2017, 03:32:08 AM
I have been using Loctite 246 Medium Strength with no problems
Mike
Mike is it thick or thin? Maybe I am using it wrong.
Quote from: Keta on June 08, 2017, 03:15:54 AM
It has settled and needs to be shaken up. Loctite 242 (blue) is thin but not that thin.
I shook it up plenty. Dominick
Quote from: Dominick on June 08, 2017, 03:45:08 AM
Quote from: swill88 on June 08, 2017, 03:13:46 AM
Quote from: Dominick on June 08, 2017, 01:38:36 AM
Thanks Sal and Lou. I will resolve it. Dominick
add a little corn starch stirring in slowly
steve
I thought the same thing, Have you done this Steve?
Quote from: bluefish69 on June 08, 2017, 03:32:08 AM
I have been using Loctite 246 Medium Strength with no problems
Mike
Mike is it thick or thin? Maybe I am using it wrong.Quote from: Keta on June 08, 2017, 03:15:54 AM
It has settled and needs to be shaken up. Loctite 242 (blue) is thin but not that thin.
I shook it up plenty. Dominick
I'm gonna try my new bottle of blue loctite tomorrow... looking for the corn starch
steve
Dominick,
The Blue Loctite is just thin. No matter how much you shake it.
It has worked well for me on lock down screws on handle nuts.
Even if I don't catch a shark, there is the task of reeling in a line 500 yards out with a 1 lb weight on the end.
I just be careful when applying it to the screw. I try to coat it evenly and careful not to squirt out too much.
I always have a paper towel underneath. Slather it with 2 drops at most. Slap it in and tighten the piss out of it, then wipe off the excess.
I have learned my lesson with those handle nuts too. They need to be tight, very tight.
I don't use Loctite on the nut, just the screw.
Most All my Handle screws are allen head made by Adam, because I use a lot of his handles.
Yeah, got "Prime Lok" type 245 blue, from Ace Hardware, consistancy of water.
Gfish
Dominick
The 246 is pretty thick. Apply to much of anything & it will run you know that. I only used it once. I think I got it from Amazon.
Mike
I'm sure it's been mentioned somewhere...in all these comments...but the least little bit of oil on the threads will render locktite useless. This goes for the screw's threads and the handle's hole also.
8)
If there's no oil on the screw or in the screw hole then why would you need locktite? Just go fishing and it will corrode itself shut.
-steve
I usually like all of your advice, I do not like this one Steve:).
Quote from: mo65 on June 08, 2017, 06:15:16 PM
I'm sure it's been mentioned somewhere...in all these comments...but the least little bit of oil on the threads will render locktite useless. This goes for the screw's threads and the handle's hole also.
8)
Yeah, I'd rinse both parts in naphtha before loctite application now that I know this. I wouldn't use mineral spirits, I think there are oil impurities in most.
Sid
Some of my Loctite is pretty watery. It is thin so it wicks up the screw into the screw and nut. While others are thicker and should be applied before screwing. And still others, applied and let dry then screw.
Daron, Mike, I got it don't use too much. However when I point the tube at the screw the liquid just pours out. From now on I am going to drip some in a ceramic dish and use one of the kids coloring brushes. Problem solved. Dominick
I ONLY use it putting on knobs. It is in fact watery and I've bought other tubes hoping they would be thicker because I loctited some things that shouldn't be loctited due to wicking as noted above...NAMELY A BLUE LOU!! So I've to take that one apart as it winds but a lil stiff, and no going second rate on that piece of art.
Dominick, did you get Tank yet?
John, it just came today. I put the knob on with the blue loctite. First I cleaned the hole and screw with lighter fluid. That should take all the grease out. I'm using it next week so I'll know how it works. Dominick
I will usually have the knob facing up as I crank down on the mounting screw. This will keep the runny loctite off the shaft or bearings...if any.
Sal
Good point Sal.
I learned to clean the screws before I use Loctite today.
I bet we could use the Paslode tool cleaner for that too. Love that stuff now that I've been using it for a while.
Yes Ranny, the paslode does a good job, as you know, it's all i use.
Sal
Right Sally. ;D
They make a gel loctite in both blue and red, I've been using the blue gel for some time and It's perfect, stays right where you put it.
Check it out most auto stores carry it. It says gel right on the bottle, there's small squeeze tubes and larger with a deodorant type of twist knob on the base. It's a pale blue color.
Quote from: David Hall on June 09, 2017, 06:07:49 AM
They make a gel loctite in both blue and red, I've been using the blue gel for some time and It's perfect, stays right where you put it.
Check it out most auto stores carry it. It says gel right on the bottle, there's small squeeze tubes and larger with a deodorant type of twist knob on the base. It's a pale blue color.
When Alan Chui's EVA knobs arrived (in the past, I've not gotten one recently) there is/was a blue glob on the threads, presumed to be gel loctite.
Sid
Quote from: sdlehr on June 09, 2017, 12:58:44 PM
Quote from: David Hall on June 09, 2017, 06:07:49 AM
They make a gel loctite in both blue and red, I've been using the blue gel for some time and It's perfect, stays right where you put it.
Check it out most auto stores carry it. It says gel right on the bottle, there's small squeeze tubes and larger with a deodorant type of twist knob on the base. It's a pale blue color.
When Alan Chui's EVA knobs arrived (in the past, I've not gotten one recently) there is/was a blue glob on the threads, presumed to be gel loctite.
Sid
Sid, the gel type isn't the same as the pre-applied Loctite .
The pre applied is some type of industrial strength that machinists/ suppliers use on their screws.
McMasters might carry that type.
I was actually looking for it myself, but a fried that does lots of assembly mentioned I would do better with loctite applied during assembly.
Sal
Quote from: Alto Mare on June 09, 2017, 01:31:47 PM
Quote from: sdlehr on June 09, 2017, 12:58:44 PM
Quote from: David Hall on June 09, 2017, 06:07:49 AM
They make a gel loctite in both blue and red, I've been using the blue gel for some time and It's perfect, stays right where you put it.
Check it out most auto stores carry it. It says gel right on the bottle, there's small squeeze tubes and larger with a deodorant type of twist knob on the base. It's a pale blue color.
When Alan Chui's EVA knobs arrived (in the past, I've not gotten one recently) there is/was a blue glob on the threads, presumed to be gel loctite.
Sid
Sid, the gel type isn't the same as the pre-applied Loctite .
The pre applied is some type of industrial strength that machinists/ suppliers use on their screws.
McMasters might carry that type.
I was actually looking for it myself, but a fried that does lots of assembly mentioned I would do better with loctite applied during assembly.
Sal
Thanks, Sal. I have no experience at all with loctite.
Quote from: sdlehr on June 09, 2017, 01:46:13 PM
Thanks, Sal. I have no experience at all with loctite.
Neither do !... maybe we'll learn about it together, or maybe not ;D .
Sal, Sid, interestingly enough, when I take apart a reel that the factory has used blue thread block it looks like it was painted on with a brush. It has a clean line of blue with no spreading to other parts of the screw. Someone on this site should know what they use. Dominick
Let's ask Tony.
Sorry to butt in Dominick. Does anyone know how much heat is required to remove a screw with the red locktite? Would 250 F do it?
-steve
Steve, 250 wont do it. More like 400/ 500 deg for several minutes.
......................Lou
Be careful with that red locktite fellas, it's wicked stuff. Hard to believe anything on a fishin' reel would need it. We used it a lot on bikes(Harley-Davidson)...you know...the "Milwaukee Shaker". :D Old HD's are famous for vibrating fasteners off, but I only used the red as a last resort because disassembly afterwards is most unpleasant. 8)
yeah, 450 may get off the red Loctite but what's going to get off your melted-down sideplates lol.
The reel no longer has any plastic. But, at 450 F I would be afraid of warping. I'd better find some lock nuts instead.
-steve
Steve, if you use the blue along with the Loctite primer you'll be fine. Just clean all inner and outer threads before application.
...................Lou
Thank you very much for that Lou. I started looking through the Loctite (Henkel) literature. It is somewhat overwhelming and will/would take weeks to digest. Thirty years ago the choice was blue, red or gold Loctite. Now there are many different Loctite formulations for different applications. Some would be useful when messing around with old reels with worn parts.... if it can be sorted out.
-steve