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Fishing Rods => Fishing Rods => Topic started by: Topshot on February 07, 2014, 05:21:36 PM

Title: John beath rods
Post by: Topshot on February 07, 2014, 05:21:36 PM
Has anybody ever heard of or used a rod from john beath. I was looking at them and was thinking about picking one up

http://www.halibut.net/Halibut-Fishing-Rod.htm
Title: Re: John beath rods
Post by: conchydong on February 07, 2014, 05:32:53 PM

The price seems too good to be true for a rod rated for deepwater Halibut fishing. Interesting for sure.
Title: Re: John beath rods
Post by: Topshot on February 07, 2014, 05:40:24 PM
Quote from: conchydong on February 07, 2014, 05:32:53 PM

The price seems too good to be true for a rod rated for deepwater Halibut fishing. Interesting for sure.
That's what worries me. I wonder if it's just a cheap xxh blank with fancy gimbal and reel seat. I don't know if I would trust a $70 rod with a $200+ reel sitting on top of it
Title: Re: John beath rods
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 07, 2014, 05:47:44 PM
The only way that rod could be so cheap is because it is Made in China.
Title: Re: John beath rods
Post by: conchydong on February 07, 2014, 05:51:59 PM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on February 07, 2014, 05:47:44 PM
The only way that rod could be so cheap is because it is Made in China.

That would be a given, but some Chinese products are fairly decent you just have to sort through the crap.
Title: Re: John beath rods
Post by: Topshot on February 07, 2014, 05:52:43 PM
Quote from: conchydong on February 07, 2014, 05:51:59 PM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on February 07, 2014, 05:47:44 PM
The only way that rod could be so cheap is because it is Made in China.

That would be a given, but some Chinese products are fairly decent you just have to sort through the crap.
I don't have boots tall enough to walk through that much crap lol
Title: Re: John beath rods
Post by: Tile on February 07, 2014, 06:38:14 PM
If these rods are built on solid fiberglass blanks they are good. If they are built on hollow blanks definitely avoid them.
Title: Re: John beath rods
Post by: Topshot on February 07, 2014, 06:45:15 PM
Quote from: Tile on February 07, 2014, 06:38:14 PM
If these rods are built on solid fiberglass blanks they are good. If they are built on hollow blanks definitely avoid them.
I'm thinking there hollow. They are suppose to be lightweight. And we all know solid fiberglass blanks aren't light at all
Title: Re: John beath rods
Post by: Bryan Young on February 07, 2014, 06:47:01 PM
I would say it depends on the warrentee...
Title: Re: John beath rods
Post by: thunnus69 on February 07, 2014, 06:49:04 PM
I am very skeptical. I would ask for tip and butt diameters, wall thickness, along with what materials were used and how they are distributed along the blank.   Are the guides double wrapped using multiple coats of epoxy?  These seem like minor things but are critical when fishing for large palegics or deep dropping lots of lead.   Typically, when I ask specific questions about the blanks design I get a blank stare.  That alone is telling.  If it were me I'd also ask for details about the warranty but in the end I think I'd stay away from this one all together.  
Title: Re: John beath rods
Post by: Topshot on February 07, 2014, 06:53:22 PM
Quote from: thunnus69 on February 07, 2014, 06:49:04 PM
I am very skeptical. I would ask for tip and butt diameters, wall thickness, along with what materials were used and how they are distributed along the blank.   Are the guides double wrapped using multiple coats of epoxy?  These seem like minor things but are critical when fishing for large palegics or deep dropping lots of lead.   Typically, when I ask specific questions about the blanks design I get a blank stare.  That alone is telling.  If it were me I'd also ask for details about the warranty but in the end I think I'd stay away from this one all together.  
Ya I think I would feel safer just building another rod. I can build a nice custom rod for about $40 more and feel comfortable with it. I'm like you. I like to know what I'm fishing with
Title: Re: John beath rods
Post by: Tile on February 07, 2014, 09:23:16 PM
If someone wants a rod for heavy duty applications and is on a tight budget the solid fiberglass blank rods are the only way to go.  The tradeoff is the somewhat increased weight of the rod.
Title: Re: John beath rods
Post by: surfcaster on February 07, 2014, 10:30:00 PM
Solid glass is tough enough to be a rental rod,My wife fishes with a shakesphere uglystik That started out as an 8ft 80lb class. the rod builder at the tackle shop chopped it down to 7ft to accept a larger tip. it works great for deep sea jigging  for up to 20 oz jigs. under 90bucks. Seeker makes a nice one. but it costs the same as having a better one custom made for you.
Title: Re: John beath rods
Post by: Topshot on February 07, 2014, 10:54:20 PM
I just can't decide what rod to put accurate 6/0 on. I don't think it would be right to have it on a cheap a cheapo rod. I'm debating on going with a batson rainshadow blank or trying one of those gorilla blanks from mudhole. I have a jigging rod from batson. It's a 50-100 rainshadow knife blank and I love it
Title: Re: John beath rods
Post by: Ron Jones on February 07, 2014, 11:10:30 PM
I know that I have caught 100+ pound halibut in 600+ feet of eater on Shakespeare made in China tidewater rods.  This rod has nicer components than those and cost a few bucks more. I am not saying that this rod is comparable to a Graphfighter but I'm sure it will accomplish what it is advertised for.
Ron
Title: Re: John beath rods
Post by: Keta on February 07, 2014, 11:16:31 PM
Go to ifish.net and ask there, they are Pacific NW orientated and this company is in the area.

http://www.ifish.net/board/index.php (http://www.ifish.net/board/index.php)
Title: Re: John beath rods
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 07, 2014, 11:16:45 PM
Alright, I guess I'd better come clean here. I fish with several roller rods that are China made. They are Davis. I have to be honest, I love them. The bad news. Aftco filed suit against them for the patent on their rollers. My favorite is a two piece 130 to 160lb that is easy to transport and can bring the pain!
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/navarrerods2_zps40a8939b.jpg)
Another one on a 10/0.
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/116A_zpsc5083913.jpg)
This is my rainshadow 5'6" 130lb with Sharkskin Butt and Zirconium guides.
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_2056_zps9c26d3e9.jpg)
Title: Re: John beath rods
Post by: Topshot on February 07, 2014, 11:23:33 PM
Hey you know my address bud so just let me know what the shipping costs you for that rainshadow and I'll be waiting for it  ;)
Title: Re: John beath rods
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 07, 2014, 11:27:48 PM
This is the Guy that Makes them. They are quality builds for a good price. This one is 6'8. Mine is 5'6". I like to keep my Shark Rods under 6'.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Land-Base-Shark-Rod-6ft-8in-50-130lb-Shark-Skin-Tri-Foregrip-new-wrap-/370872776013?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5659bd754d
Title: Re: John beath rods
Post by: Mudguts on February 08, 2014, 12:01:55 AM
Quote from: noyb72 on February 07, 2014, 11:10:30 PM
I know that I have caught 100+ pound halibut in 600+ feet of eater on Shakespeare made in China tidewater rods.  This rod has nicer components than those and cost a few bucks more. I am not saying that this rod is comparable to a Graphfighter but I'm sure it will accomplish what it is advertised for.
Ron

I also have a Shakespeare Tidewater 10-15kg rod. It's about 10 or 11 years old now and I can't fault it.

Title: Re: John beath rods
Post by: thunnus69 on February 08, 2014, 12:10:46 AM
The Seeker Hercules blanks are tough to beat.  The 660H and 660XH are stout yet lightweight.  I have built some of my own rods on these and love them. 
Title: Re: John beath rods
Post by: thunnus69 on February 08, 2014, 12:16:51 AM
Follow the link below. Scroll down to see Billy pulling on a Hercules 60H.  He helped Seeker design the blank.

http://northeastrodbuilders.com/stufftobuy/seekerherculesblanks.html
Title: Re: John beath rods
Post by: Keta on February 08, 2014, 01:00:10 AM
Quote from: thunnus69 on February 08, 2014, 12:10:46 AM
The Seeker Hercules blanks are tough to beat.  The 660H and 660XH are stout yet lightweight.  I have built some of my own rods on these and love them. 

I have 2 and love them.
Title: Re: John beath rods
Post by: Bunnlevel Sharker on February 09, 2014, 02:12:15 AM
If they sold just the blanks for the Shakespeare tide waters, all my rods would be built on them. Killed many a fish with my 30-80
Title: Re: John beath rods
Post by: Tightlines667 on February 09, 2014, 03:50:12 AM
I like the looks of that RainShadow...
And O yea...
That 14/0 you have there is absolutely stunning!
Title: Re: John beath rods
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 09, 2014, 06:18:28 AM
The Rainshadow's are to go to rod for Sharkers in the know. ;)
Title: Re: John beath rods
Post by: Ron Jones on February 09, 2014, 08:49:51 AM
I live down the road from Rainshadow. They have an outlet a little further down that is nice to walk around in. Great deals on rods put together with seconds. You can buy them cheaper than you can build them.
Ron
Title: Re: John beath rods
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 09, 2014, 07:42:17 PM
Ron,
If they have a 130 lb eglass rod 5'6" to 6". I am interested. It has to have a gimbal for the fighting belt and a 28mm reel seat for the big dogs!
Title: Re: John beath rods
Post by: Ron Jones on February 09, 2014, 07:52:47 PM
I'll look next time I'm there.
Ron
Title: Re: John beath rods
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 12, 2014, 09:45:10 PM
I appreciate it Ron! ;D
Title: Re: John beath rods
Post by: seaeagle2 on February 13, 2014, 01:10:48 AM
How long you lived over there, I can remember when I was in college working on a fire crew at Quilicene,  101 not only went thru "downtown" Sequim, but it curved around Dukes' Towing.....That outlet place is great, I've only made it in there once, but there's all kinds of cool stuff....
Title: Re: John beath rods
Post by: Ron Jones on February 13, 2014, 03:55:53 AM
The Navy moved me to Kitsap in 98. We bought the place in Quil in 03. I'll never forget the day I drove past Sequim because the 101 didn't go through it. Everyone thought the town would die, you should see it now.
Ron