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Title: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: basto on June 06, 2013, 03:11:42 AM
I lost my pics here a few months ago because I had uploaded them from my desktop, so I thought I would resubmit them.
If I could only have a few reels, this would be one.
Shimano released the Triton Mark 1 and 2 in 1982.
One thing different about this reel is the working drag washer which is under the main gear.

Anyhow, I will post the pics and they can tell the rest of the story.    (http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/P1010224_zpsf12f7664.jpg)(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/P1010476_zpse0589b00.jpg)(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/ALLOY%20BRACE_zpsjil5z1f6.jpg)(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/P1010471_zpsbacea1e0.jpg)(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/LEFTSIDE_zps804ab2f1.jpg)(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/tritonframe_zpse17efe61.jpg)
(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/mark%201%20and%202_zps9xtvbrd1.jpg)




(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/tritonmaingear_zps22b7ba49.jpg)(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/gearplate_zpsdac36445.jpg)(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/P1000475_zps40eaa1da.jpg)(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/tritonbox_zps8037ce7a.jpg)(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601%3Cbr%20/%3E%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/mark%201%20and%202_zps9xtvbrd1.jpg)
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: bluefish69 on June 06, 2013, 03:24:45 AM
I like mine also but I don't have a big use for it anymore. When you post pictures then I remember I have it. It was either a Farther's Day or Birthday Gift back then.

Mike
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: basto on June 06, 2013, 03:39:45 AM
Wow! great gift. Mine was a gift also. All the way from USA a couple of years ago. I was fortunate enough to find and buy a Mark 2 recently.
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: john2244 on June 06, 2013, 04:09:46 AM
Nice reel!!  I have never seen one.  Thanks for posting.
John
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: Bryan Young on June 06, 2013, 05:22:06 AM
A thing of beauty.
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: Ron Jones on June 06, 2013, 05:24:05 AM
Very nice,
I think a stainless gear sleeve and 6 lobed drag would make it perfect.

Ron
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: basto on June 06, 2013, 06:59:34 AM
Quote from: noyb72 on June 06, 2013, 05:24:05 AM
Very nice,
I think a stainless gear sleeve and 6 lobed drag would make it perfect.

Ron
Yes, I don`t know what the sleeve is made of, but this one and my Mark 2 gear sleeve show no signs of distortion.
The drag is better now with a carbontex upgrade, and probably adequate for a reel this size.
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: basto on June 06, 2013, 07:06:50 AM
Quote from: john2244 on June 06, 2013, 04:09:46 AM
Nice reel!!  I have never seen one.  Thanks for posting.
John
Hi John
A lot of folk have never seen one. They are a rare reel.
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: basto on June 06, 2013, 07:10:44 AM
Quote from: Bryan Young on June 06, 2013, 05:22:06 AM
A thing of beauty.
Yes Bryan, That is what I rekon mate.
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: doradoben on June 07, 2013, 01:04:53 AM
I like it. Thanks for the photos..
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: BMITCH on June 07, 2013, 01:46:41 AM
Very nice. Thanks for sharing.
Bob
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: morpheus on October 13, 2013, 04:19:42 PM
very nice..1st time i see one..
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: Dynamo on October 14, 2013, 02:24:37 AM
Thanks for posting! Classy looking reel, i've never seen one before.
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: john2244 on October 14, 2013, 03:12:27 AM
Sweet reel  !!!

John
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: whalebreath on October 15, 2013, 01:40:43 AM
Heard rumours of them back in the day but none made it here-Thanks for posting!
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: Bunnlevel Sharker on October 17, 2013, 08:39:57 PM
A friend of mine has one, if you ever decide to get rid of it hit me up!
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: coastal_dan on March 18, 2015, 05:35:51 PM
Awesome, I (like many here) haven't seen one either!  Do you use it?  What pound braid are you running?  Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: Slazmo on March 18, 2015, 11:24:55 PM
Simply "WOW".  :o

Look at its condition and state! Surely a collectors piece???
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: basto on March 19, 2015, 12:26:11 AM
Hi Guys
Dan, that is pe4 Sunline braid, but in the 4-5 years that I have had it, I have never used it. The only thing non stock on it is a bearing that I replaced where there was a bushing. I, of course kept the bushing.
Basto
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: basto on May 03, 2015, 02:53:30 AM
Quote from: Slazmo on March 18, 2015, 11:24:55 PM
Simply "WOW".  :o

Look at its condition and state! Surely a collectors piece???
Hi Slazmo
This is my Mark 2 (just a bit wider)
I had to make a handle for it. Was from an early TLD 15/30. About an hour with some fine diamond files. Yes, the Mark 2 sleeve was wider than the 15/30 sleeve.(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/WHOLE_zpspyiokbf9.jpg)
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: basto on May 03, 2015, 03:09:53 AM
(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/FRONT_zpshc5whyol.jpg)
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: Slazmo on May 03, 2015, 08:11:29 AM
Officially jealous!!!  :D
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: Ruffy on June 30, 2015, 03:53:18 AM
Hi Basto,
Can the posts for the rod clamp come off or are they permanent?

Cheers,
Ruffy
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: bluefish69 on June 30, 2015, 03:59:49 PM
They are forever posts. Not made to be removed. I had the posts removed from my reel. Wish I didn't do it.

Mike
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: basto on July 02, 2015, 12:31:26 AM
and the rod clamp is alloy.
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: basto on February 16, 2016, 04:52:50 AM
takedown from manual
(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/STEP%201_zpsqxibfc8u.jpg)
(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/step%202%20copy_zps4oofhpcu.jpg)
(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/step%203_zpsa2o8pano.jpg)
(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/step%204_zpszjuwc4as.jpg)
(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/step%205_zpstijbxxen.jpg)

schematic
(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/SCHEMATIC_zpsjuskskiy.jpg)
(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/PARTS%20LIST_zpsfvirq3nk.jpg)
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: coastal_dan on February 16, 2016, 06:00:29 PM
Man, that's an awesome reel...thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: basto on February 16, 2016, 11:22:44 PM
My pleasure Dan.
Basto
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: STRIPER LOU on February 17, 2016, 12:30:28 PM
Wow! The frame on that reel is amazing!
............Lou
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: thorhammer on February 17, 2016, 03:31:23 PM
NICE. I always wanted a set of those.
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: basto on October 24, 2016, 12:24:15 AM
this might help

(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/mark%201%20bearings_zpso54xqs8d.jpg)
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: Rancanfish on October 24, 2016, 04:54:30 PM
Thanks Basto.. these were made until at least 1987.

And another note...the clamp from a Newell 332 fits exactly the same.
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: basto on October 24, 2016, 11:09:59 PM
Quote from: Rancanfish on October 24, 2016, 04:54:30 PM
Thanks Basto.. these were made until at least 1987.

And another note...the clamp from a Newell 332 fits exactly the same.

good to know about the Newell clamp. I think it would be a stronger design.
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: Rancanfish on November 01, 2016, 02:48:41 AM
Well, I cannot figure out how these darn reels work.  I think when the gear sleeve turns it's supposed to release the push button, but it appears stuck in the down position...?  All parts are there on the set plate.
 
Edit: Removed my rambling about an issue that disappeared as soon as the reel was assembled properly.
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: basto on November 05, 2016, 08:29:08 PM
Have you tried rotating the sleeve to a different position so the kick pins are in placed differently?
Might pay to take it apart right down to the retractors and rebuild it again.
Sorry, can`t help anymore than this. I have never had a problem with mine after cleaning and rebuilding.
Basto
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: Rancanfish on November 05, 2016, 10:40:20 PM
Thanks Basto for the reply.

I have two set plates, identical, and in good condition.  I have the same result on either.   I cannot find a position that causes both levers to trip at the same time.  The first lever trips as the pin rotates along it, and then jams. It's got me talking to myself....

1/15/17 Edit: Again, removed rambling explanation of my reels troubles that were solved by installing a missing piece.
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: Shark Hunter on November 06, 2016, 02:45:58 AM
Randy,
If no one else in Cali can help you with this.
Send it to me.
No guarantees, but I will do my best.
Daron
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: Rancanfish on January 17, 2017, 03:22:33 AM
Wanted to update.  Got all my 'Mark's' working.  I literally worked on them all day.  Took them apart over and over until I figured out why the one worked, but the others did not.

Turns out that various parts were missing, which solved the problem with the one I was messing with earlier in this thread.

I scrounged around and found squidder drags that fit perfect, so took care of that too.

One had a dog that was intermittent of and on for about an hour.  Tearing down and reassembling was getting pretty tiring.

And the last one was assembled completely from parts which I had stashed for a few months.

Thanks go out to Jay (Fishgrain) and Doug (JDL) for coming up with the odd parts.
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: basto on January 17, 2017, 08:48:11 PM
Glad to hear you got it sorted. When that happens to me, I don`t sleep well.
Basto
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: Rancanfish on January 18, 2017, 01:34:05 AM
Thanks Basto,

On the reel I actually had left the metal washer that goes on the sleeve first, under the gear, off by accident.  ::)  Part # 26. That's what happens when you start, then stop, throw everything in a bag because something else came up.  I knew I had all the drag parts, so when I dumped them out again to work on the reel, I ASSumed I had them all. The missing washer was still in the bag! When I again returned to the schematic yesterday in frustration, I had my 'doh!' moment.  ::)

Going on to the second reel I discovered it was missing there also! I had purchased the reel and never worked on it. I found that substituting an old brass Jigmaster keyed washer fit the sleeve shaft well. It held the dog down properly without interfering with any other works. It had a very slightly smaller diameter than the stainless JM one.

I wish I had decided to go back and look at the schematic much earlier.  Very humbling to say the least.

But, I can literally put these together in my sleep now.  ;D



Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 01, 2017, 05:14:50 AM
Glad you finally got it sorted Randy.
There is no better Satisfaction than doing it yourself and know its done right. ;)
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: Rancanfish on February 02, 2017, 06:50:20 PM
Well, circumstances make this collectible expendable.  So it's going to be put in the for sale thread.

Thought I would mention it here first for the people that admire these old Shimano's.


Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: PERRO on February 02, 2017, 07:42:24 PM
Just sharing photos of my two : Mark ! & Mark 2 , which have only been used in freshwater ;D
(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j161/A-PAPI/IMG_2161_zpscwggddso.jpg)

(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j161/A-PAPI/IMG_2159_zpsa6yecpyg.jpg)

(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j161/A-PAPI/IMG_2266_zpscmag8s2b.jpg)

(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j161/A-PAPI/IMG_2270_zpsi63duhb2.jpg)
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: Rancanfish on February 02, 2017, 08:10:50 PM
Did you remove your post and put it back?  I saw them before in this thread I thought.
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: PERRO on February 02, 2017, 08:45:00 PM
I also thought, I had previously posted the photos, on " This Thread "  .. Don't ever , remember of deleting anything on this forum .....? ?   :o


HMMM.. Must have been on the below thread !!

Truth reel
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=19542.0
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: Rancanfish on February 02, 2017, 08:56:46 PM
I know I saw them.  Weird.

Very nice anyway.

EDIT:  Ha! I knew my mind was still working.
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: basto on April 22, 2018, 09:18:07 PM
Quote from: Ron Jones on June 06, 2013, 05:24:05 AM
Very nice,
I think a stainless gear sleeve and 6 lobed drag would make it perfect.

Ron

I was looking at the stainless AT gear sleeves that are flat sided all the way to the ratchet like this mark 1 sleeve is and I remember a mate telling me that a 3/0 Senator drag washer is a very close fit on the mark 1 sleeve.
I got a 3/0 metal and tried it on my mark 1 sleeve. Just needed a few strokes on the inside flat areas with a diamond file and fits nicely.
Food for thought!
To be continued.
Basto
Title: Re: SHIMANO`s OLD GOLD....TRITON Mark 1
Post by: gstours on April 23, 2018, 03:40:54 PM
Thanks Mr. B.   Good information,  these are very solid reels and that gearsleeve will help make it even better for a long term of heavy use.
   Thanks for you sharing. :-*