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General Maintenance Tips => Fishing Antiques and Collectables => Topic started by: Bill B on May 16, 2023, 08:44:29 PM

Title: Let’s Play A Game
Post by: Bill B on May 16, 2023, 08:44:29 PM
Let's play "Which One IS Not Like The Others"... if you guess right you get a free lifetime subscription to AT.com... :d   Bill
Title: Re: Let’s Play A Game
Post by: Gfish on May 16, 2023, 10:05:59 PM
They're all different in their own special ways.
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Post by: jtwill98 on May 17, 2023, 12:44:46 AM
I'll take a guess.

Five of the six reels have dual-posts separating the two body halves. The other (4th reel from left) looks like a unibody reel. 

Having said that, I'm sure you have a different reason why "one's not like the others"
Title: Re: Let’s Play A Game
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on May 17, 2023, 12:53:24 AM
Only one of them has a paper tag. Bam!
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Post by: Swami805 on May 17, 2023, 01:11:50 AM
One looks like a fathom, all the rest are the same dimensions.
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Post by: MarkT on May 17, 2023, 01:16:35 AM
The Fathom right of center!
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Post by: Keta on May 17, 2023, 01:52:22 AM
FTHII60NLD2?
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Post by: Mjg378 on May 17, 2023, 02:03:31 AM
One new, others Vintage!
Mike
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Post by: Shellbelly on May 17, 2023, 03:10:24 AM
Only one is permanently direct drive.  Far right.
Title: Re: Let’s Play A Game
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on May 17, 2023, 03:27:50 AM
Ok i got it this time. Only one of them is a cutting board.
Title: Re: Let’s Play A Game
Post by: Bill B on May 17, 2023, 03:55:31 AM
Sheridan and Mark were on target and Lee hit the X  (but he might have had some inside info 😉).

All the others are in the 49 series of Penn reels, (49, 149, 249) except one.

Yes the one one that doesn't belong is the Penn Fathom II 60NLD2. 

I'm surprised how close it is to the 49 series of Penn's. It's 1/8" wider inside the frame and approximately 3/8" narrower in diameter.

It's going to be fun on the October 8 day as a 100# reel. Bill
Title: Re: Let’s Play A Game
Post by: Keta on May 17, 2023, 04:46:20 AM
820 yards of 80#
50# drag 
32 ounces
Sounds like a good choice for a medium heavy.
Title: Re: Let’s Play A Game
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on May 17, 2023, 05:05:29 AM
What do you fish those 49's at? I have 2 that I may one day do something with.
Title: Re: Let’s Play A Game
Post by: MarkT on May 17, 2023, 05:13:02 AM
Leave the crossbar off if you're not going to use the lugs for trolling!
Title: Re: Let’s Play A Game
Post by: Keta on May 17, 2023, 05:14:42 AM
Jason,  I use 349H reels for pacific halibut.  The 49 is a bit weak for larger ones.
Title: Re: Let’s Play A Game
Post by: Bill B on May 17, 2023, 05:19:15 AM
Quote from: MarkT on May 17, 2023, 05:13:02 AMLeave the crossbar off if you're not going to use the lugs for trolling!

Was debating the crossbar, might use it for trolling though.  It doesn't bother me right now, but the lugs did have to go.  If you are on the Zoom call this weekend let's discuss further.
Title: Re: Let’s Play A Game
Post by: Bill B on May 17, 2023, 05:27:25 AM
Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on May 17, 2023, 05:05:29 AMWhat do you fish those 49's at? I have 2 that I may one day do something with.

I used my 49's for deep drops, with the tall narrow spool (even with the slow gear ratio) I could drop in quickly and be back up far quicker than those with the small diameter high gear ratio reels.  It's all about inches per crank with the 49 series.  I've heard they were very popular with the wire line fisherman, but I don't have any experience with wire line.  Bill
Title: Re: Let’s Play A Game
Post by: Finest Kind on May 17, 2023, 10:34:52 AM
Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on May 17, 2023, 05:05:29 AMWhat do you fish those 49's at? I have 2 that I may one day do something with.
I believe they were designed for trolling. Around NY they seem to have been replaced by 113H with the bronze spool by the 1970's for wire line trolling for striped bass and bluefish. I would occasionally see a 49 being used, in the 1970's, always by an old timer. I think the 113H is still the choice among professionals for dragging 100 yards of wire even today. I have always found them to be indestructible for this type of fishing.
John
Title: Re: Let’s Play A Game
Post by: Shellbelly on May 17, 2023, 12:48:03 PM
Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on May 17, 2023, 05:05:29 AMI have 2 that I may one day do something with.
Just don't flip the wrong lever or you might lose a finger.
Title: Re: Let’s Play A Game
Post by: Keta on May 17, 2023, 12:50:28 PM
Did Penn ever make a single lever 49 like they did the 349H?
Title: Re: Let’s Play A Game
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on May 17, 2023, 01:02:55 PM
Thanks guys. I have a 349 as well and figured that was a more practical reel for actual fishing, I was just wondering if the 49 had a practical use beyond display, but it sounds like it's pretty obsolete.
Title: Re: Let’s Play A Game
Post by: Keta on May 17, 2023, 01:23:17 PM
They work for salmon and botton fishing on the west coast. 

If your 349 is a low speed  I have a drag upkit you can have.  You can also use a 113H SS gearsleeve, the ratchet is not the same but the AR dog will still work.

I also have a a bunch of low and high gear sets with yokes for replacement or changing gear ratio.
Title: Re: Let’s Play A Game
Post by: Shellbelly on May 17, 2023, 02:55:47 PM
Quote from: Keta on May 17, 2023, 12:50:28 PMDid Penn ever make a single lever 49 like they did the 349H?
Never seen one in the catalogs and that's not always reliable.  Looks like 349 was the only Penn reel in that class that offered the option. 

Ocean City offered the same option on their 109, smaller and more narrow, but not anywhere near as beastly as 349.

Interesting...could you get a factory 349 w/o free spool and that hole blanked off?  That would be a nice shelf item. 
Title: Re: Let’s Play A Game
Post by: Keta on May 17, 2023, 03:17:53 PM
I have several one lever 349H reels.

Here is 1/2 of my 349/349H horde, 4 are single lever and most have 7 and 9 metal washer drag upgrades. 


(https://alantani.com/gallery/23/1583_25_01_18_10_02_53.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/23/1583_25_01_18_10_08_22.jpeg)
Title: Re: Let’s Play A Game
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on May 17, 2023, 03:20:52 PM
Isnt there also a 2 speed version? (Besides the 0:1 option)
Title: Re: Let’s Play A Game
Post by: Keta on May 17, 2023, 03:29:57 PM
No.
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Post by: Brewcrafter on May 18, 2023, 06:08:10 AM
Quote from: Bill B on May 17, 2023, 05:19:15 AM
Quote from: MarkT on May 17, 2023, 05:13:02 AMLeave the crossbar off if you're not going to use the lugs for trolling!

Was debating the crossbar, might use it for trolling though.  It doesn't bother me right now, but the lugs did have to go.  If you are on the Zoom call this weekend let's discuss further.
Might be a good idea to go "topless" if going for a delete option on the harness lugs, only because many SoCal boats use harnesses clipped to the lugs hanging off the rail in trolling applications so on some boats trolling with the outfit minus the lugs might not be in the cards. - john
Title: Re: Let’s Play A Game
Post by: Keta on May 18, 2023, 12:59:08 PM
The SOA is not set up that way.
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Post by: JasonGotaProblem on May 18, 2023, 01:01:31 PM
Bill by the way i responded to your PM about handles almost immediately, but never heard a followup. No worries at all, just wanted to make sure you saw it.
Title: Re: Let’s Play A Game
Post by: Shellbelly on May 18, 2023, 01:07:20 PM
Quote from: Keta on May 17, 2023, 03:17:53 PMI have several one lever 349H reels.
Is there a wide kit for 349?  Seems like I've seen a wide one. 
Title: Re: Let’s Play A Game
Post by: Bill B on May 18, 2023, 06:36:33 PM
Quote from: Shellbelly on May 18, 2023, 01:07:20 PM
Quote from: Keta on May 17, 2023, 03:17:53 PMI have several one lever 349H reels.
Is there a wide kit for 349?  Seems like I've seen a wide one.

I know Penn made a wide 49 for the S. African market, 49A is the model number.  Bill
Title: Re: Let’s Play A Game
Post by: funhog on May 18, 2023, 07:54:21 PM
the "Wide Kit": I believe it was the Newell "Wahoo Special". It came with high speed gears, a wider aluminum spool, and cross bars.
Title: Re: Let’s Play A Game
Post by: Keta on May 18, 2023, 09:40:02 PM
The reel lower right is a 349H with Newell wide spool and bars.


(https://alantani.com/gallery/23/1583_25_01_18_10_06_49.jpeg)
Title: Re: Let’s Play A Game
Post by: Shellbelly on May 19, 2023, 02:44:22 AM
Quote from: Keta on May 18, 2023, 09:40:02 PM349H with Newell wide spool and bars.
That's it.  I saw the wide 349 spool on the bay once.  Seller was asking 200 for it. 

Quote from: Bill B on May 18, 2023, 06:36:33 PM49A is the model number.  Bill
I wish one of those would fall in my lap.  Saw one with a white spool once.