We are back on the books for next year, August 30 to September 3, 2021. i told rosie to keep my deposit and send the rest back. if you want her to keep your deposit and the old price, just let her know. it is probable that the prices will go up next year.
1. Alan Tani
2. John Bradley
3. Mark Thomann
4. Rich Gunderson
5. Tom Hryniuk
6. Ron Jones
7. Mike Pate
8. Fernando Del Mundo
9. Rich Brethour
10. Brendan Deusterhaus
11. Ryan Wood
12. Ted Reyes
Rosie's keeping my deposit for next year too.
I told her to roll over my deposit to next year too.
She'll keep mine.
I'm still in!
Jack
I've asked her to hold my deposit as well.
GA Mike
Rosie is also holding my deposit.
Rich
Rosie's keeping my deposit.
Mine too.
I've almost convinced Alison to come. If I could arrange a boat ride from Laredo it might happen, and an opening comes up.
Ronald Jones
Quote from: Ron Jones on September 27, 2020, 04:05:49 AM
I've almost convinced Alison to come. If I could arrange a boat ride from Laredo it might happen, and an opening comes up.
Ronald Jones
It is a long boat run from Loreto, Guerrero Negro is much closer. ;D
Quote from: Ron Jones on September 27, 2020, 04:05:49 AM
I've almost convinced Alison to come. If I could arrange a boat ride from Laredo it might happen, and an opening comes up.
Ronald Jones
we have one open spot!
I'm interested in tagging along if the spot is still available. What are the particulars (dates, cost, ect). Have always wanted to do a cedros trip. Appreciate the information. Thanks!
take a look at the other posts on this section and it will give you a general ideal of how things are set up. we have a couple of guys on the "waiting" list that still have to get back to me, but as of now there is still one spot open!!!
Thanks for the reply Alan, have been paying attention to the posts over the last few years and gave some a re-read last night. I like the idea of fishing two to a panga!
Appreciate you keeping me in mind in case the spot is available. Thanks!
ryan, you're number 12! Ted Reyes is first on the waiting list. gentlemen, thank you!!!!
Welcome Ryan. You have certainly joined an august bunch of guys. And on into September as well ;D ;D
On a non-related note, does anyone remember the name of the "companion" resort on the mainland near Cedros that Cedros Sportfishing was advertising 4-6 months ago? Similar resort but more inshore type fishing. Just wondering if anyone has been there and what was their opinion?
Want to take my step-son and son in law panga fishing.
In 24 hours I'll be heading to Puerto Vallarta and Marla's No Tuna-No Chinga experience. Be interesting to see what additional restrictions are in place for international travel. UGH
Merry Christmas,
GA Mike
Bocana Adventure in Loa Bocana?
Just saw reports that a new species of whale has been discovered near San Benitos
Jack
Thrilled to be on the trip, glad I could join. I'm sure I'll be bugging you all for tackle recommendations over the next few months...
Based on my single trip my biggest recommendation is simple. As in keep it simple. A bunch of ringed circle hooks, a few surface irons and one or two things to bounce on the bottom. And sabikis, lots and lots of sabikis. A 30 pound and 50 pound outfit and you are all set.
The Man
Rosie told me via email that the runway at Cedros has been patched.
Yes I talked to her as well. I like the term "patched" not ....................... repaired !! Hope the covid is under control later this year.
Cheers:
Todd
I follow the Island on Facebook. Saw pictured of the runway, looks great. Rosie sent me an email last night confirming we are a go.
I need halibut season to get here so I can think about something else or I'm never going to sleep!
Ronald Jones
lee won't be able to make it, so ted reyes will be #12.
Excited to join your group. Spoke to Rosie and sent her the check today! ;D
ted, glad to have you on board!!!!
Quote from: Almud on March 10, 2021, 11:28:45 PM
Excited to join your group. Spoke to Rosie and sent her the check today! ;D
Welcome to the trip, Ted! Looking forward to meeting you.
Thanks! Really excited! Now just have to figure out what to bring. ;)
two rods, two reels. a 30 pound jig outfit and a 50 pound jig outfit. we will be casting alot. for calicos, it's small swim baits and small iron, all two, three or four ounces. for yellowtail, we troll with rapala cd-14's, cast yoyo iron or surface iron, cast sp minnows (hard plastic baits), fly line or slow troll with circle hooks (2/0, 4/0 or 6/0) and live sardine or mackerel, dropper loop with circle hooks (4/0 or 6/0) and 12-16 ounces of lead. you'll also need four sabikis, one for each day to make bait.
I usually take 3 rods. I flyline and slow troll Macs on 50# with an 8/0 Eagle Claw circle hook. I take a 8-9' rod for throwing surface iron, a 6'6" - 7'6" rod for flylining/slow troll/yoyo and usually an 8' Calico stick with a bait caster for plastics and hardbaits. I've trolled the smaller Magnum X-Raps or equivalent Yozuri or Nomads for YT.
i want to work out something with rosie to take less gear and bring back more fish.
I got a ultra light bag, throw away cloths and shoes, a lighter weight rod and reel (one) and lead and iron I was going to leave there before my fund situation forced me to drop out.
Well, I don't really care about taking home fish so my share can be divided up if people want more fish.
Trying not to over pack. Will we be too early for wahoo and yft?
I think you can forget about Wahoo. I've seen a few schoolie sized YFT taken offshore and some Dorado but neither are a primary target.
yeah, this is basically a yellowtail trip.
I really don't see any reason to bring more than 2 rods, a 30 and a 50. Honestly, you can do away with the 30 if you don't mind bouncing a sabiki with a 50# rig or you can get away with a 30 if you have the gas to not get smoked with light gear all day (I don't right now.)
The thing I WILL bring more of is surface iron. I'm thinking at least 3-4?
The Man
At least 3 or 4. If you loan any out they might not come back!
Quote from: MarkT on March 26, 2021, 03:20:38 PM
I think you can forget about Wahoo. I've seen a few schoolie sized YFT taken offshore and some Dorado but neither are a primary target.
Thanks, will leave the DTX's home then. Anyone slow pitch jigging for yt?
YT at Cedros love Mac's... just sayin'! I've caught a lot on surface iron and yoyo too. I've used flatfalls there and have caught 2 bass at once on them, but I don't think I've caught YT on them there but I'd imagine they work.
Quote from: alantani on March 24, 2021, 07:06:16 PM
i want to work out something with rosie to take less gear and bring back more fish.
I'm not planning to bring back fish. But I'll bring a blue cooler bag and give you my fish. I'll get the bag back at the SoA.
I'm going to take it a lot easier this year, especially on that 1st half day where we only sling iron. My elbow hurt for 3 months afterward. At 71 I'm too old and too good looking to wear myself out at the start of the trip. But apparently not too smart :)
GA Mike
It will be fun to see you again Peaches!
The Man
I think I will have to drop my spot for this year. I hate too but with uncertain travel restrictions and possible travel quarantine in place and most of all I don't want to leave Alan in a tough spot and drop out last minute and have him try to fill my spot. See you there in 2022. :'(
Cheers:
Todd
Alan, what's the waiting list look like?
if you want to go, you're in!!!!!
Quote from: alantani on June 04, 2021, 07:52:54 PM
if you want to go, you're in!!!!!
I'm in! I'll call you today for details!
Glad that worked out for you Cortez !!
Cheers:
Todd
Todd, we'll miss you on the trip this year. Stay healthy and get ready to return in '22
Thanks for that. Mark said he would only miss ......................... my 18 year old Canadian whisky !!
Cheers:
Todd
Quote from: Hardy Boy on June 09, 2021, 04:04:33 PM
Thanks for that. Mark said he would only miss ......................... my 18 year old Canadian whisky !!
Cheers:
Todd
Yeah well, there is that too! ;)
Packing for Cedros, and trying to make weight. I think I have it figured out. Talked to Rosie a couple days ago and she really helped, now I can't wait to go!
You really don't need too much: Hooks for fishing Macs, plastics and stickbaits for Calicos, yo-yo and surface iron for YT and everything else too. Sabiki rigs for making bait and a couple torpedo sinkers and you're good to go. Something to troll can't hurt too.
I'm taking 6 8/0 circle hooks, some lead heads/plastics, a few hardbaits, 6 iron (2 yo-yo, 4 surface) and some Sabiki rigs and sinkers. I'm taking a spool with some extra 50# mono and my dykes/duckbills/belt. JX Raptor/UC Predator 76 for Macs and yo-yo. TranX 500 hg/Phenix psw809xhj for surface iron. Lexa 400/Phenix psw809h for plastics/hardbaits. Bring it on!
Mark, thanks for all the great advice. I am trying to match your rod and reel recommendations, i found a 929h blank locally and i am having it wrapped for surface iron, which goes with my PC 501, a swimbait rod rated 1-6 with an old school upgraded daiwa ps55, and a custom wrapped black steel 7'6" 30-80 with a tricked out pro gear 3500, not a two speed, but its what I own right now. And I am taking in all the tackle recommendations and triming it down as suggested.
There's no problem with 9' rods on the plane. The 3500 would work great. Plenty of the AT guys use tricked out old Penns... 4/0 and 6/0 so 2 speeds are nice but not necessary. You might feel different if you latch on to a 40#+ but it's nice to find out. My son got a 45# YT on a JX 6/3 w/40# and 37# and 25# YT on a Curado 300 while fishing for Calicos. I use a 50# leader for all purposes down there... they aren't shy! My baitcasters have a 3' leader on the braid and I use a Tactical Angler clip to make it easy to swap lures. All my tackle and reels will fit in a backpack.
Wow, a 37#er on a 300 curado! That was a fight. I should be able to get it all in my 3600 sized plano bag, reels included. Then a small second bag for clothes and extras. I appreciate your comment about "its nice to find out", thats exactly what I want to do. I've been waiting two years for this trip, I'm stoked.
My take on those 9 and 10 foot rods :
I prefer 7 to 7.5 feet rods for casting irons from a panga. Especially on Cedros. Shorter rods can handle fish better next to to the boat, less leverage working against you on the fight, and giving up that extra 10 to 20 yards of casting distance compared from a extra long rod can actually be an advantage. Many of the yellowtail spots on Cedros are over relatively shallow hard bottom, so a hookup over a long cast means that a yellowtail can reach the rocks without taking any line. I am a believer in not casting any farther than necessary on yellowtail boils in shallower water. And a seven footer is more useful for also trolling and live baiting. I don't want to get on a panga with more than two rods, especially if I am sharing the boat.
The fish don't usually hang as far away from a panga as they do from a big long ranger, so a long cast is usually not needed to reach the boils. Just cast to the front of the boil. And you can always move the boat to get a bit closer. Pangas are very portable :)
Just my opinion, which is probably not shared by the majority of the SoCal crowd.
-J
J, Thank you for the response. As usual, your perspective is well thought out, sound reasoning to back up your experience. Part of my decision to use the 9 footer is based on it's what I already own in the right weight class. I have a 7.5' and 9' from the same maker that are both 20-30lb class rods, which is a little too light for this application, hence my desire to use the 9' 20-50 929H. In my casting practice with these lighter rods, I noticed that the 9' does not offer me a noticeable improvement in overall casting distance at my current level of skill versus the 7.5'. Same lure on both rods gives me 40yards +- 3 yards. Occasionally I get it right, good timing, clean release, good thumb control and I hit 50+, but it's not consistent. A 7.5' would probably be a better choice for the reasons you mentioned, but as Mark mentioned earlier, it's fun to find out on your own! Next year might be completely different setups, but then I will a new budget to work with too...
Today I finally completed a 5 month project at work. It's been a lot of hard work, physically and mentally, with minimal time off. I am really looking forward to this trip.
My plan is drive out to SD from AZ on Sunday morning(Aug 29th), arriving around noon. It seems in years past, the hotel of choice is the Vagabond. Will this year be a repeat? I'd like to book a room now and be prepared with a place to stay on Sunday night.
Rich
I booked a room w/ 2 double beds at the Ramada on Rosecrans-1 block away. $144 + tax. The Vagabond was renovated over the summer, name changed to Sea Harbor Hotel, and the nightly rates almost doubled to $190 + tax. $50 bucks difference isn't a deal breaker, but Sea Harbor wasn't accepting reservations when I made my travel arrangements back in May.
GA Mike
I stayed overnight at the Ramada last month before my 8-day. It was beyond godawful; not only was the reception desk person an imbecile, but I was forced to change rooms at 9:30 pm because the damned idiots in the room over me allowed their infernal ba***rd kid to incessantly run and jump and bang no matter how many times I had the front desk call them to complain. >:(
Never, and I do mean NEVER, again... I've already booked the Sea Harbor for next year. ::)
~A~
Mike, thanks for the info, I didnt know about the remodel, but I saw the name change on their website. When i checked the rates last week, they wanted $160 base rate for a room.
Aiala, sorry to hear of your lousy experience. I spent a few weeks on business travel this year and had similiar experiences, but it wasnt kids playing, it was the adults jumping on the bed🤮.
Question, footwear? Whay do you guys like to wear on the pangas?
I think i just wore Teva's last year. No wahoo, so there is no danger. Just remember to spray on the sun screen.
Thanks Alan, i just got a new pair of Keens to replace my worn out ones.
i'll be calling everyone in the next few days!
I've got a room at the Ramada with two bunks if anyone needs the extra bed, let me know.
What's the latest Covid protocols for getting back into the US?
GA Mike
i'll ask rosie.
120 hour Pre underway checklist:
Transportation paid and verified: X
Berthing arranged: X
Weapon's selection complete: X
Uniforms inspected / prepped: X
Passport / Documents stowed: X
Vid silliness: X
Sick bay/ dispensary stores: X
Last stores delivery sched: X
Review 72 hour preunderways: X
Executive (Spousal) Review: X
This sailor is ready to get underway!
The Man
two rods, two reels - 30 pound and 50 pound
bait catching - four sabikis and four 4-6 ounce weights
bait fishing - circle hooks maybe 6 each of - 6/0, 4/0, 2/0 and number one, four 8-12 ounce leads
iron - 2 yoyo, 2 surface, four megabait/laser minnows 4-6 ounce
trolling - two cd 18 rapalas
your tackle should fit in a 1 gallon ziplock
Quote from: alantani on August 25, 2021, 03:11:47 PM
two rods, two reels - 30 pound and 50 pound
bait catching - four sabikis and four 4-6 ounce weights
bait fishing - circle hooks maybe 6 each of - 6/0, 4/0, 2/0 and number one, four 8-12 ounce leads
iron - 2 yoyo, 2 surface, four megabait/laser minnows 4-6 ounce
trolling - two cd 18 rapalas
I've been operating off the "2 3600 Plano box" rule; but I think I'll be way below one gallon.
The Man
your tackle should fit in a 1 gallon ziplock
Quote from: alantani on August 25, 2021, 03:11:47 PM
your tackle should fit in a 1 gallon ziplock
Oh no... I have a one gallon bag of just plastics...
...I have some serious re-configuring to do
Ron, your pretrip checklists and organization skills are impressive!
going down is not such a big deal. it's the return trip that is at issue. most of the tackle that i bring down will stay. on the return trip, it's rods, reels, a few personal items and fish. even the old ratty clothes will stay. ;D
Clothes! I bring 2 pairs of shorts, 2 shirts and 3 pairs of skivvies. Use the laundry service, think light. Imagine you are living out of a cardboard box for a week.
You don't have enough time to soak a gallon of plastics even if you don't fish. Alan used to say 2 3600 boxes, I have one slot of a 3600 box with a half dozen plastics and another with 3 heads. I won't use 1/3 of it.
The Man
well, actually, rogan is bringing the plastics for us!!!!! ;D
I'm getting a jump start on the Cedros trip!!!
I'm leaving Leesburg, GA in a few minutes for the 2.5 hour drive to ATL. Alan is picking me up at SFO around 2 PM. Probably do some hungover salmon fishing on Friday. Driving to Fresno Saturday to stay with his parents and maybe I can also visit with an old VN buddy who has a helicopter flying service there in Fresno. Then off to SD on Sunday to meet up with you guys.
I've never been accused of having too much fun!
GA Mike
Quote from: alantani on August 26, 2021, 12:30:23 AM
well, actually, rogan is bringing the plastics for us!!!!! ;D
It's funny you say that Alan, cause last night I decide to pour a few more!
our travel weight on the way down should not be an issue. it's the way back with the fish that is the big concern. my plan is to leave the extra clothes, toiletries and most of the tackle. i plan to bring back the the two rods, the two reels, the near empty duffle bag and fish. that's all. the rest of the stuff gets left on the island. whoever i fish with on the last day will get all the tackle. the clothes will get left in the room.
I wish I was still going, have fun.
You can have my share of the fish when we get back and divide it up. I still have plenty of YT from my June 8 day.
Quote from: MarkT on August 26, 2021, 03:23:49 PM
You can have my share of the fish when we get back and divide it up. I still have plenty of YT from my June 8 day.
I'm not planning on bringing any fish back either.
GA Mike
That's actually a question I haven't had answered, how frozen are the fish when we get to SD? I understand they have new freezers.
The Man
Last I talked with Rosie they had not upgraded the freezers yet. They are looking at expanding the lodge as well in the future. I (Rosie) always took my fish to five star and they put in in their blast freezer while I killed time before going to the airport.
Cheers:
Todd
Tom and I follow another charter (technically Rosie's competitor) on Cedros. He told me that the boats came in with Yellowtail limits by 7:30 AM today! Judging by the pictures it was a nice quality of fish too.
Can't wait!
The Man
72 Hour Pre Underways
120 Hour Pre Underways Complete X
Final Purchases Delivered X
Weapon's Onload complete: X
Seabag loaded: X
Pre Flight check in complete: X
Vid silliness: X
Sick bay/ dispensary stores: X
UV armor issued from stores
and stowed: X
Local intel report injested: X
Vehicle stowage verified: X
Review final preunderways: X
Executive (Spousal) Review: X
This sailor is ready to get underway!
The Man
Executive (Spousal) Review: X
:D Ron, I look forward to meeting you someday, I think we may have some stuff in common! GOOD LUCK to everyone on the Cedros Trip! Looking forward to hearing (and seeing) some good stories! Everyone be safe! - john
Final Pre-Underway check:
Conveyance loaded: X
weapons verified: X
Consumables verified: X
Documentation validated
and stowed: X
Departing uniform
staged: X
Nav plan filed and
validated: X
Executive (Spousal)
Review: X
Weapon's department ready to get underway. Departure 0330
See you there
The Man
Quote from: Ron Jones on August 29, 2021, 03:44:17 AM
Final Pre-Underway check:
Conveyance loaded: X
weapons verified: X
Consumables verified: X
Documentation validated
and stowed: X
Departing uniform
staged: X
Nav plan filed and
validated: X
Executive (Spousal)
Review: X
Weapon's department ready to get underway. Departure 0330
See you there
The Man
RON!
You're kill'n me Man!!!
I like you am a LIST GUY!!!
BUTT you take it to a NAVAL LEVEL!!!
Well Done SIR.
and when something is missing on a trip, I respond with, "RESPECT THE LIST!!!!"
Have a GREAT TRIP... Fish Hard BUTT Pull Harder!!!
Wayne
Waiting to catch a plane!
Good trip. YT limits every day for almost everyone. Probably averaged 20+ lbs. Biggest weighed was 34.
I got a 30. Here's me doing my Ernest Hemingway impersonation. Now for the long flights back to ATL. Ugh!
GA Mike
Nice fish Mike! Can't wait to fish with you on the 10 day trip on the Spirit!
Nice fish Mike.
It was a great trip! I'm ready for next year already. I serviced the reels I took. I've also replaced the jigs I lost... plus got a few extra and added a blue Mag 20 Rapala so I don't have to borrow Jack's..
It was a fun trip...good weather, good food, good company, and good fishing! I got home about 11pm after the long drive north with Jack. The next morning I slept in until 5:45, and then had to grab the door jamb on the way into the bathroom, as the panga in my head was still pitching and rolling a bit! I made Jack's poached yellowtail recipe that night with polenta and red pepper sauce, and it was delicious!
Darn! I gained over 5 lbs on this trip. Plus had a slight case of the DT's when I got home. That had to be the worst tequila ever. You guys are a bad influence on me. Hanging around Ron even has me "cussin' like a sailor". And my IQ dropped 20 points. :)
Peaches
Quote from: Wally15 on September 06, 2021, 11:21:04 AM
And my IQ dropped 20 points. :)
It's a good thing I could not make it this time, that would put me in the single digit range.
Quote from: scrinch on September 05, 2021, 10:51:23 PM
........... as the panga in my head was still pitching and rolling a bit!
hahaha, I can recall that, 1st time I took my 3 kids for a fishing trip in a panga, on our way back to home in the car, all of them told me the same, if I close my eyes I still can feel the rocking movement of the panga, that feeling was still present when they went to bed that night ;D ;D ;D
seems like you had a great time
"...so hot..."
I wouldn't know... Alan ate them all!
Quote from: Wally15 on September 06, 2021, 11:21:04 AM
Darn! I gained over 5 lbs on this trip. Plus had a slight case of the DT's when I got home. That had to be the worst tequila ever. You guys are a bad influence on me. Hanging around Ron even has me "cussin' like a sailor". And my IQ dropped 20 points. :)
Peaches
Let me help you out Peaches; you can't lose more than you started with, and you didn't start with 20 in the first place!
Had a blast
The Man
Had an absolute blast! Fished with some great anglers and caught more than my fair share of fish and can't wait for next year. Headed back for that 11 lb world record pinto? bass. Have attached some pictures from the trip.
For next year, any interest in adding another day or two to the trip? From Rosie's website it looks like the cost does not go up all that much relatively speaking. Also would selfishly prefer a trip spanning a weekend for working stiffs like me ;D
I have arranged to view some charts that aren't available to everyone. Going to find holes that that fish is in. Planning an all out assault on that record next year.
The Man
Quote from: Ron Jones on September 08, 2021, 03:24:22 PM
I have arranged to view some charts that aren't available to everyone. Going to find holes that that fish is in. Planning an all out assault on that record next year.
The Man
Dr. Jones....could that be considered cheating 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Quote from: Bill B (Tarfu) on September 08, 2021, 07:26:28 PM
Quote from: Ron Jones on September 08, 2021, 03:24:22 PM
I have arranged to view some charts that aren't available to everyone. Going to find holes that that fish is in. Planning an all out assault on that record next year.
The Man
Dr. Jones....could that be considered cheating 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
If you aint cheating you aint trying!
The Man
I would be disappointed if all those years of sonar mapping didn't lead to some secret spots!
For those who are curious:
https://mexican-fish.com/goldspotted-sand-bass/#:~:text=They%20reach%20a%20maximum%20of,Sur%2C%20Mexico%20in%20November%202006.
10 lbs 4 ozs....I bet some of our fish would have gone at least 9 lbs!
Quote from: Ryan W on September 12, 2021, 12:27:26 AM
I would be disappointed if all those years of sonar mapping didn't lead to some secret spots!
For those who are curious:
https://mexican-fish.com/goldspotted-sand-bass/#:~:text=They%20reach%20a%20maximum%20of,Sur%2C%20Mexico%20in%20November%202006.
10 lbs 4 ozs....I bet some of our fish would have gone at least 9 lbs!
A quote from that article:
"The Goldspotted Sand Bass is a resident of all Mexican waters of the Pacific with the exception that they are absent form Cedros Island, Baja California, northward along the central and northwest coasts of Baja."You never know what to believe!
Quote from: scrinch on September 13, 2021, 06:25:50 PM
"The Goldspotted Sand Bass is a resident of all Mexican waters"
that fish is really good eating.
my favorite for a fresh ceviche
Any news on next years trip? Gonna be time for us working stiffs to put in for vacation soon...
now that christmas is over, i'm going to start putting together the full schedule for next year and start making phone calls to all of the veterans to get them lined up. just keep an eye on the board and we'll get you signed up. thanks! alan
Sounds good Alan, looking forward to it! Hope you and your family had a good Christmas
Count me in! Fun trip in 2021 and now "hooked!"