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Spinning Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn => Topic started by: Paul Roberts on August 14, 2023, 09:26:25 PM

Title: 430SS: But I Don't Need Another Light Spinning Reel :)
Post by: Paul Roberts on August 14, 2023, 09:26:25 PM
"I don't need another light spinning reel." That's what I'd said when I collected my last L spinning reel, a Shakespeare 2400 -you know, the (cough) blue one. I already find it tough enough trying to decide which one to use on a given outing. My L spinning reel duties are well covered with: an ABU C3, a Shakespeare Sigma 2200-035, a Daiwa SS1300, and an A&F 200/6. I really don't need another L spinning reel.

But... I was in an antiques shop the other day and, there it was: a Penn 430SS, for $25. There was no hesitation. And I had ample justification. Back in the mid 80's I worked full-time in a large tackle shop. I still use most of the reels, rods, and lures I'd acquired there. One reel I did not acquire then was the 430SS. I wasn't a big Penn fan, feeling that their spinners were too heavy, and a bit gaudy for my taste. I did, however, respect them for their top notch engineering, materials, and functionality. They were -and still are- great reels and I recommended them to customers without hesitation. I just didn't care to own one -except for the 430.

The 430 is proportionally perfect, I thought. The larger versions got big and heavy quick, and the 420 had too small a spool for the reel's weight. But the 430... was perfect. Maybe the best reel in the case. I didn't buy one though. I'd already had my L spinning reel duties covered. I have always felt, however, that if I were to acquire another spinning reel -of any size- it would be a 430SS. Just to have one.

Occasionally, I get the urge to check them out on-line, always finding them going for too much for me to justify another L spinning reel. They now often go for more, sometimes much more, than they originally sold for when new. So, I just let the idea go, until yesterday when I saw one affixed to an old low-end tubular glass rod for $25. SOLD!!!

It was mechanically all there, of course, and generally in good, average to light use, condition. Looked like factory brown grease? Some paint was chipped in the usual places. So, during tear-down, I repainted it. I seriously considered going full "serious stealth black" with it, but I decided to hold off on all the masking required, and just went with the VHT Wrinkle finish I like so much.

I did find that the drag wouldn't tighten down far enough for back-reeling. I also had a bit of a challenge with the anti-reverse mechanism. And the bail trip mechanism in the rotor wings -the levers and spring- were a bit of a puzzle. I'd not photo'd things as well as I should have during tear-down. All three issues were solved via schematic: The drag disks were out of order. The AR and bail trip mech's had to be spelled out for me. Luckily the Penn folks did a great job on the schematic, even offering a blow-up on the AR mech. Not all companies do such a good job supporting service work. Obviously, Penn expected their reels to be worth the time and effort to service into the future.

There was also a slight ringing sound coming at the bottom of the oscillation, the spool just touching the rotor. So I cut a shim from thin hard polypropylene to lift the spool slightly.

When good lighting returns, I'll add a few better photos. I may just go full serious stealth with it in the future. For now, it looks nearly new and functions... perfectly.
Title: Re: I Don't Need Another Light Spinning Reel; Exception: the Penn 430SS
Post by: Woodpuppy on August 14, 2023, 10:21:54 PM
Great find! I'd still like to have one of those. Have 716z and 714z reels on rods and running smooth, but I've always liked the skirted spool reels too.
Title: Re: I Don't Need Another Light Spinning Reel; Exception: the Penn 430SS
Post by: sandbar on August 14, 2023, 11:57:37 PM
There goes the prices again 🤷�♂️
They shot thru the roof recently on EBay. I'm glad I have been preparing for this inevitable event.
Great reels.
The very first reel I ever purchased many years ago and it has caught numerous redfish, trout, black drum,  Flounder, jacks, whiting and regrettably saltwater catfish over many years.
Title: Re: I Don't Need Another Light Spinning Reel; Exception: the Penn 430SS
Post by: foakes on August 15, 2023, 12:42:17 AM
Terrific Job, Paul!!

Best, Fred
Title: Re: I Don't Need Another Light Spinning Reel; Exception: the Penn 430SS
Post by: Midway Tommy on August 15, 2023, 04:12:44 AM
Lucky you, Paul, nice find! Most antique & collectible stores around my area use eBay to price their reels & other tackle so deals like that are really tough to come by nowadays!
Title: Re: I Don't Need Another Light Spinning Reel; Exception: the Penn 430SS
Post by: Paul Roberts on August 15, 2023, 08:33:26 AM
Thanks guys. I was pretty happy to find it, get it home, and open it up to see what I had.

Tom, I've found pretty much the same here. But some slip through. I once found a 716 for $2! The shop I found the 430 in generally has eBay prices on tackle. The particular vendor had not bothered to go through the mostly low end rods and reels he'd recently acquired from an estate sale, I was told.

As to eBay prices, they were already high, as mentioned. Interest in the small Penn spinners is not news.
Title: Re: 430SS: But I Don't Need Another Light Spinning Reel :)
Post by: reelynew on August 29, 2023, 02:52:27 PM
Nice work Paul.  That textured paint looks great. 
Title: Re: 430SS: But I Don't Need Another Light Spinning Reel :)
Post by: Bryan Young on August 29, 2023, 04:41:47 PM
Amazing find and great job on the refinishing. I hope to be lucky some day to find a treasure like you had and paint it cans apple red sigh glitter flakes because that's how I roll. 🤙🏽🤣
Title: Re: 430SS: But I Don't Need Another Light Spinning Reel :)
Post by: Crow on August 29, 2023, 05:13:18 PM
Great find!
Title: Re: 430SS: But I Don't Need Another Light Spinning Reel :)
Post by: steelfish on August 29, 2023, 07:46:17 PM
Quote from: Bryan Young on August 29, 2023, 04:41:47 PMAmazing find and great job on the refinishing. I hope to be lucky some day to find a treasure like you had and paint it cans apple red sigh glitter flakes because that's how I roll. 🤙🏽🤣

 I just pictured a Penn 430SS or 712z with red candy apple paint with glitter flakes and It would look pretty cool
Title: Re: 430SS: But I Don't Need Another Light Spinning Reel :)
Post by: Paul Roberts on August 30, 2023, 12:43:21 AM
I refuse to imagine such a thing! 😅 Stealth black I say! 8)
Title: Re: 430SS: But I Don't Need Another Light Spinning Reel :)
Post by: sandbar on August 30, 2023, 06:45:14 PM
How about black with glitter flakes?
Title: Re: 430SS: But I Don't Need Another Light Spinning Reel :)
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on August 30, 2023, 07:02:13 PM
You guys are giving me ideas. I got a 712z that looks like a lawnmower got it. I think it's a candidate.
Title: Re: 430SS: But I Don't Need Another Light Spinning Reel :)
Post by: Paul Roberts on August 30, 2023, 10:32:25 PM
No glitter! Blasphemy!
Title: Re: 430SS: But I Don't Need Another Light Spinning Reel :)
Post by: ourford on August 31, 2023, 12:44:11 AM
There's always that guy on Ebay...
Title: Re: 430SS: But I Don't Need Another Light Spinning Reel :)
Post by: Paul Roberts on August 31, 2023, 01:50:30 AM
AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! 😱

I think I know why I like "stealth black". I'm too easily spooked!
Title: Re: 430SS: But I Don't Need Another Light Spinning Reel :)
Post by: steelfish on August 31, 2023, 07:58:51 PM
MHC Sensei made a "blue dog" outta 750SS  >:D

https://alantani.com/index.php/topic,12567.msg123780.html#msg123780

Title: Re: 430SS: But I Don't Need Another Light Spinning Reel :)
Post by: Bryan Young on August 31, 2023, 09:38:31 PM
Sweet Alex!!!
Title: Re: 430SS: But I Don't Need Another Light Spinning Reel :)
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on September 01, 2023, 02:40:45 AM
Alright if we're doing 750SS entries. Sorry mines seen some scratches since some of you have last seen it. On account of i actually use it.
Title: Re: 430SS: But I Don't Need Another Light Spinning Reel :)
Post by: Paul Roberts on September 01, 2023, 04:57:15 AM
Ok, those are both sharp looking reels. SW/heavy duty work is where Penn spinners come into their own. They were great reels for the Great Lakes salmonid fishery our shop served.

Jason, is that one mirror polished?
Title: Re: 430SS: But I Don't Need Another Light Spinning Reel :)
Post by: Bryan Young on September 01, 2023, 08:24:52 AM
Don't we just love that polished aluminum look? 
Title: Re: 430SS: But I Don't Need Another Light Spinning Reel :)
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on September 01, 2023, 09:59:24 AM
Quote from: Paul Roberts on September 01, 2023, 04:57:15 AMOk, those are both sharp looking reels. SW/heavy duty work is where Penn comes into its own.

Jason, is that one mirror polished?
It used to be. I have a tendency to make a reel look like a show pony then proceed to treat it like a work horse. I bet I could clean it up again though with a bit of elbow grease. I also have a similar 8500SS. These were some of my first projects when i started posting here.
Title: Re: 430SS: But I Don't Need Another Light Spinning Reel :)
Post by: Paul Roberts on September 01, 2023, 12:51:07 PM
Quote from: JasonGotaProblem
I have a tendency to make a reel look like a show pony then proceed to treat it like a work horse.


Same here. They were made to be fished.