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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn - Vintage => Topic started by: sdlehr on February 03, 2016, 01:05:12 AM

Title: 80 Popular Free Spool
Post by: sdlehr on February 03, 2016, 01:05:12 AM
Picked up this No. 80 on an auction site recently, thought I'd document her clean-up. Based on the round gear box without screw holes this model shares design features with some of Penn's classic early reels, namely the  Sea Hawk and New Port. It's a little different part of Penn history because it has a different way to attach the bridge to the side plate. Instead of the four bridge screws we are used to seeing it has two accessible only from the inside surface of the side plate. First, an introduction:

(http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah127/sdlehr/Reel%20No_40%20Penn%2080/DSC_7609_zpspgkc0q19.jpg) (http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/sdlehr/media/Reel%20No_40%20Penn%2080/DSC_7609_zpspgkc0q19.jpg.html)

She had considerable "patina" that I really am not attached to. It will come off in the first soak.

(http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah127/sdlehr/Reel%20No_40%20Penn%2080/DSC_7606_zpsudnwdf8b.jpg) (http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/sdlehr/media/Reel%20No_40%20Penn%2080/DSC_7606_zpsudnwdf8b.jpg.html)

(http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah127/sdlehr/Reel%20No_40%20Penn%2080/DSC_7605_zpsxbswuldz.jpg) (http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/sdlehr/media/Reel%20No_40%20Penn%2080/DSC_7605_zpsxbswuldz.jpg.html)

(http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah127/sdlehr/Reel%20No_40%20Penn%2080/DSC_7600_zpsevw4woe8.jpg) (http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/sdlehr/media/Reel%20No_40%20Penn%2080/DSC_7600_zpsevw4woe8.jpg.html)

(http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah127/sdlehr/Reel%20No_40%20Penn%2080/DSC_7615_zpsph3lobo6.jpg) (http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/sdlehr/media/Reel%20No_40%20Penn%2080/DSC_7615_zpsph3lobo6.jpg.html)

(http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah127/sdlehr/Reel%20No_40%20Penn%2080/DSC_7626_zpstcbviueo.jpg) (http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/sdlehr/media/Reel%20No_40%20Penn%2080/DSC_7626_zpstcbviueo.jpg.html)

(http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah127/sdlehr/Reel%20No_40%20Penn%2080/DSC_7656_zpscm5el2ub.jpg) (http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/sdlehr/media/Reel%20No_40%20Penn%2080/DSC_7656_zpscm5el2ub.jpg.html)

(http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah127/sdlehr/Reel%20No_40%20Penn%2080/DSC_7631_zpsnmyicpqg.jpg) (http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/sdlehr/media/Reel%20No_40%20Penn%2080/DSC_7631_zpsnmyicpqg.jpg.html)

Here's the inside of the right head plate. Notice the two posts anchored in the bakelite - instead of upper bridge screws. Also note the two anchored screw holes for the two screws that fix the bridge plate to the side plate.

(http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah127/sdlehr/Reel%20No_40%20Penn%2080/DSC_7719_zpsvxerdyqj.jpg) (http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/sdlehr/media/Reel%20No_40%20Penn%2080/DSC_7719_zpsvxerdyqj.jpg.html)

The bridge plate only needs two holes for two screws, and the main gear and gear sleeve are fused together as there is no drag mechanism on this knuckle buster.

(http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah127/sdlehr/Reel%20No_40%20Penn%2080/DSC_7723_zpsbd321isd.jpg) (http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/sdlehr/media/Reel%20No_40%20Penn%2080/DSC_7723_zpsbd321isd.jpg.html)

She cleaned up nicely
(http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah127/sdlehr/Reel%20No_40%20Penn%2080/DSC_7745_zpswobxsyr8.jpg) (http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/sdlehr/media/Reel%20No_40%20Penn%2080/DSC_7745_zpswobxsyr8.jpg.html)

(http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah127/sdlehr/Reel%20No_40%20Penn%2080/DSC_7743_zpsopgq4u6a.jpg) (http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/sdlehr/media/Reel%20No_40%20Penn%2080/DSC_7743_zpsopgq4u6a.jpg.html)

(http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah127/sdlehr/Reel%20No_40%20Penn%2080/DSC_7746_zpsbmyxvzri.jpg) (http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/sdlehr/media/Reel%20No_40%20Penn%2080/DSC_7746_zpsbmyxvzri.jpg.html)

The 80 Ocean Side, which this is not, was around from 1935 through 1939. It was absent from the catalogs of 1940-41, and is considered to be rather rare. Then the No. 80 reappeared in the 1942 catalog again as a 250 yd free spool (knucklebuster) reel, the same line capacity as the Ocean Side of the 30's. It was listed as a 250 yard reel only in that 1942 catalog. There were no catalogs 1943-45, and in 1946 the No. 80 was listed as a 200 yd reel. The plastic spool with the larger arbor cut the line capacity by 50 yards; the No. 80 remained listed as a 200 yard reel through Penn catalog #17 (1952-53) when it was discontinued. I think that it was available as a 250yd reel with a metal spool for an extra $1 in the years that the metal spools were available (not during WWII).

Title: Re: Penn No. 80
Post by: Mattman NZ on February 03, 2016, 07:22:05 PM
Well that little 80 cleaned up well - never seen one in person without the drags .

Rgds

Matt...
Title: Re: Penn No. 80
Post by: foakes on February 03, 2016, 07:33:17 PM
Nice job, Sid --

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: Penn No. 80
Post by: sdlehr on February 03, 2016, 09:29:31 PM
Thanks, guys. She did clean up nicely; an interesting reel because of the way the bridge is attached to the right side plate. This model was only around for a few years. It was meant to be a cheap reel available in large numbers to the masses for a short period of time.
Sid
Title: Re: Penn No. 80
Post by: mizmo67 on February 05, 2016, 08:34:21 PM
Looks to be in fairly good shape, considering it's age. Nice breakdown.
Title: Re: Penn No. 80
Post by: PacRat on February 05, 2016, 08:51:17 PM
Sid, Are you going to spool this classic up and fish it? That way you can tell us how hardcore our Grandpas were! If only this old reel could tell stories.
-Mike
Title: Re: Penn No. 80
Post by: mizmo67 on February 05, 2016, 08:57:20 PM
I'm not sure modern lines on that old spool will work.
I think the pressure would split it.
Title: Re: Penn No. 80
Post by: cbar45 on February 05, 2016, 10:35:54 PM
Looking good, you have a knack for fishing out these older Penn's.

Chad
Title: Re: Penn No. 80
Post by: Ron Jones on February 07, 2016, 02:29:50 AM
I've fished a similar reel in bays with a plastic spool and it did fine. I'd run 15-20 pound mono and go see about catching some croaker (assuming you live on the SW coast.)
Ron
Title: Re: 80 Popular Free Spool
Post by: sdlehr on April 10, 2016, 10:53:28 PM
I've moved this thread to a new home in a new folder that is more appropriate.

Sid
Title: Re: 80 Popular Free Spool
Post by: handi2 on April 11, 2016, 12:05:06 AM
I have one of those bridges. Now I know what it's for.
Title: Re: 80 Popular Free Spool
Post by: Catching Nemo on May 21, 2018, 08:07:08 PM
Hi Guys,

I'm resurrecting this thread, with a question:

Can someone help me to date this Penn 80 reel.

Everything seems to be similar as Sid's 80 posted above, except mine has a textured design for the "PENN" logo and has "250 YDS" stamped on the bottom of the reel stand.

Thanks
Title: Re: 80 Popular Free Spool
Post by: theswimmer on May 21, 2018, 08:26:57 PM
Not worth a nickle Nemo.
Send it off to me and I will dispose of it for you.😀
I think it is a little older than the reel Sid was working on but I'm sure one of our dating genius's will pipe up and help.
Nice reel......