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Fishing Rods => Fishing Rods => Topic started by: pcde123 on December 03, 2013, 01:40:56 AM

Title: replacing the rod tip
Post by: pcde123 on December 03, 2013, 01:40:56 AM
i have a couple rods that broke over time and i decided to buy a kit to fix them up, im trying to go the affordable route and not have to pay 20 bucks per rod for a servicing, im found 3 brands and i was wondering which ones are the best? http://www.academy.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_10051_12271_-1__?N=387091055&affcode=42&kwid=ps_cse&cid=PLA%7CGoogle&gclid=CNCjot_0krsCFaHm7AodKioABg (FUji)
http://www.walmart.com/ip/16637401?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=3&adid=22222222227000836218&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=40457016430&wl4=&wl5=pla&wl6=35011720510&veh=sem (berkely)
http://www.walmart.com/ip/16637401?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=3&adid=22222222227000836218&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=40457016430&wl4=&wl5=pla&wl6=35011720510&veh=sem (eagle claw)

if u know of any better brands than please inform me
Title: Re: replacing the rod tip
Post by: pcde123 on December 03, 2013, 01:43:04 AM
this is the heavier duty salt water edition http://www.academy.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_10051_12270_-1?ICID=CRT:0137-00742-1003
Title: Re: replacing the rod tip
Post by: Keta on December 03, 2013, 01:47:20 AM
Measure the end of the rod in 64th and order what you need here,
http://acidrod.com/hardloy_tops.html (http://acidrod.com/hardloy_tops.html)
Title: Re: replacing the rod tip
Post by: philaroman on December 03, 2013, 04:03:57 AM
Quote from: Keta on December 03, 2013, 01:47:20 AM
Measure the end of the rod in 64th and order what you need

DITTO -- forget kits!!!  Fuji is good quality (definitely better than Berkley), but the kit is still for emergency repair, so you can salvage a trip.  for permanent repair, you want the tube diameter just right -- not, "close...  I can make it fit"
Title: Re: replacing the rod tip
Post by: pcde123 on December 04, 2013, 12:42:46 AM
apreciate it guys! , your link seems afordable!, as for attaching the actual tip, do yall use super glue?
Title: Re: replacing the rod tip
Post by: bluefish69 on December 04, 2013, 12:47:30 AM
There is a Special Cement that you have to heat. You can use a Cig. Lighter.

Mike
Title: Re: replacing the rod tip
Post by: Keta on December 04, 2013, 12:54:12 AM
Quote from: bluefish69 on December 04, 2013, 12:47:30 AM
There is a Special Cement that you have to heat. You can use a Cig. Lighter.

Mike

Ferule cement or hot glue.
Title: Re: replacing the rod tip
Post by: pcde123 on December 04, 2013, 02:09:19 AM
so after i measure the tip, how do i know which size matches the diameter measured???
Title: Re: replacing the rod tip
Post by: Keta on December 04, 2013, 02:14:13 AM
Quote from: pcde123 on December 04, 2013, 02:09:19 AM
so after i measure the tip, how do i know which size matches the diameter measured???

The tip size will be the number of 64ths, a # 5 tip will be 5/64"  a number 20 tip will be 20/64".
Title: Re: replacing the rod tip
Post by: Jeri on December 04, 2013, 07:08:30 AM
Hi Guys,

A quick word about 'HOT GLUE', great for a running repair, but it has a fairly low melting point, if you are fishing somewhere really hot, then you might experience the tip moving round as the glue softens in the heat. More permanent job is to use any of the 2 part epoxy resins - much higher melting point.

Cheers from sunny Africa

Jeri
Title: Re: replacing the rod tip
Post by: Irish Jigger on December 04, 2013, 09:35:15 AM
Never had that problem here Jeri ;)
Title: Re: replacing the rod tip
Post by: Jeri on December 04, 2013, 12:56:54 PM
Hi Irish Jigger,

Nor did I, having built custom rods in the UK, but when you travel further afield, unexpected problems come into play.

Apart from some of the obvious 'nom de plumes', we are a global group, and at times it is difficult to determine where folks are asking their questions from. Feel sure that 'hot glue' is not a problem in Alaska, but take a rod built there somewhere warmer, and you look a little silly hooked into a big fish and the tip starts to screw round to the underside of the rod - short stroke acid wrapped!!!!!! :)

Cheers from sunny Namibai


Jeri
Title: Re: replacing the rod tip
Post by: floating doc on December 04, 2013, 02:23:41 PM
I've always used the "hot glue", and I live in Florida. A few times I've left a rod in a car and came back to find that the tip swiveled around from it's weight after the inside of the car heated up. If it was still hot, I just straightened it back up before it set (you've got to do this pretty quickly). Otherwise, a second or two with a flame on the tube, and then line it up. Good to go!

I never felt that I wanted to epoxy my tips, since once that is done you're committed to that tip forever. If the ring pops out, you have to cut the tip off, taking the end of the blank with it. The slight loss in length off the tip of the rod will cause a big change in the action. This isn't good if you like the rod, because it will never handle the same after it's cut down.
Title: Re: replacing the rod tip
Post by: Bunnlevel Sharker on December 05, 2013, 12:46:35 AM
I like being able to pull the tip if I wanna strip the blank
Title: Re: replacing the rod tip
Post by: floating doc on December 05, 2013, 12:51:39 AM
Quote from: Bunnlevel Sharker on December 05, 2013, 12:46:35 AM
I like being able to pull the tip if I wanna strip the blank

Absolutely!
Title: Re: replacing the rod tip
Post by: Jeri on December 05, 2013, 03:15:52 AM
Hi Guys,

Even with epoxy resin in the tip, a gentle heat, and it starts to soften, and you cna pull the tip off with needle nose pliers. Do it virtually every day during the holiday season here - tips that have been resined and lost the ceramic insert - very, very rarely do we have a problem with the tip being solid onto the blank.

Horses for courses.

Cheers
Title: Re: replacing the rod tip
Post by: pcde123 on December 10, 2013, 01:55:11 AM
im looking at it and there is a ring size and tube size??? is the ring the eye, and the tube the portion that the tip slides into, and should the replacemnt bit slide in easily or riggedly?