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Spinning Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn => Topic started by: elcarlstono on August 30, 2022, 07:38:24 PM

Title: Ever seen this on a spool?
Post by: elcarlstono on August 30, 2022, 07:38:24 PM
Picked up a Penn 712Z at the flea market over the weekend.  Good running little reel.  Bail is sluggish on the return and could probably benefit from a new spring.
Anyway, what really caught my eyes was this numbering on the spool.
"14" painted on the top, once, and on the bottom is 14 three times; one painted, one labeled, and the other in tape.
What the heck?
Title: Re: Ever seen this on a spool?
Post by: Wompus Cat on August 30, 2022, 07:57:36 PM
Maybe somebody like Fred who has hundreds of Clients put the number on it so he could remember whose and which Reels it was .
Like the guy maybe had 20 Reels to service and Fred took em all apart at once to service them . This way each Reel would go back together with it's original spool...... ::) 
Has 14 pound Test line on it .
Or the Guy who owned it was 14 when he got it . :d
Title: Re: Ever seen this on a spool?
Post by: philaroman on August 30, 2022, 08:03:16 PM
it's the wrong answer to Life, the Universe and Everything
Title: Re: Ever seen this on a spool?
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on August 30, 2022, 08:07:21 PM
I feel like this is one of my less hair brained theories:

'Twas a test done by someone seeking a better way to identify their reels/spools. The test was to see which of the 4 ways to mark the dang thing was most likely to last
Title: Re: Ever seen this on a spool?
Post by: elcarlstono on August 30, 2022, 08:10:06 PM
Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on August 30, 2022, 08:07:21 PMI feel like this is one of my less hair brained theories:

'Twas a test done by someone seeking a better way to identify their reels/spools. The test was to see which of the 4 ways to mark the dang thing was most likely to last
There's some merit to that!
Title: Re: Ever seen this on a spool?
Post by: Gfish on August 30, 2022, 08:28:19 PM
Looks almost like something I'd do to denote 14# test. I do that + date filled and sometimes line brand.
Title: Re: Ever seen this on a spool?
Post by: Squidder Bidder on August 30, 2022, 08:41:09 PM
Is there a number on the reel itself (not necessarily matching)? Maybe inside the housing? If the number was just in one form I would have guessed that the reel had been owned by charter operator who kept a log of reel maintenance. I can't imagine that being a reason to put the numbers on two more times.
Title: Re: Ever seen this on a spool?
Post by: elcarlstono on August 30, 2022, 08:48:38 PM
Quote from: Squidder Bidder on August 30, 2022, 08:41:09 PMIs there a number on the reel itself (not necessarily matching)? Maybe inside the housing? If the number was just in one form I would have guessed that the reel had been owned by charter operator who kept a log of reel maintenance. I can't imagine that being a reason to put the numbers on two more times.

Not that I have found.
Title: Re: Ever seen this on a spool?
Post by: Wompus Cat on August 30, 2022, 08:52:42 PM
Might be the Number of Fish that Got Away on that Reel
Title: Re: Ever seen this on a spool?
Post by: 1badf350 on August 30, 2022, 08:55:51 PM
Quote from: Gfish on August 30, 2022, 08:28:19 PMLooks almost like something I'd do to denote 14# test. I do that + date filled and sometimes line brand.
I'm going with this simple answer, but will be entertaining to read all the other hairbrained ideas you guys come up with
Title: Re: Ever seen this on a spool?
Post by: Wompus Cat on August 30, 2022, 09:11:35 PM
(https://c.tenor.com/bnK8AbXH7k8AAAAM/fascinating-mr-spock.gif)
Title: Re: Ever seen this on a spool?
Post by: oldmanjoe on August 30, 2022, 09:46:22 PM
 If you ask me , it is very obvious .      But i too have to wait
Title: Re: Ever seen this on a spool?
Post by: Dominick on August 30, 2022, 11:07:00 PM
Fourteen is the lowest even n for which the equation φ(x) = n has no solution, making it the first even nontotient, therefore putting the number on a spool makes perfect sense.  I'm surprised everyone doesn't know that.
Dominick
Title: Re: Ever seen this on a spool?
Post by: Shellbelly on August 30, 2022, 11:12:12 PM
OK.  I'll step in it.  It's spool #14.  It was hung on the wall or kept in a parts box with other #'s.  Maybe it lived and worked in a repair shop. 
Title: Re: Ever seen this on a spool?
Post by: elcarlstono on August 31, 2022, 12:04:15 AM
Minimum size for flounder/trout?
Title: Re: Ever seen this on a spool?
Post by: Wompus Cat on August 31, 2022, 12:07:47 AM
It is the IQ of the guy that uses it like this..........

(https://www.fieldandstream.com/uploads/2019/01/18/IXOY25UV2M2WYNVL2EKDR5224U.jpg)
Title: Re: Ever seen this on a spool?
Post by: oldmanjoe on August 31, 2022, 12:39:43 AM
   Why 14 3 times on the back?
Title: Re: Ever seen this on a spool?
Post by: Wompus Cat on August 31, 2022, 12:46:18 AM
Approval by Our Gang is always a good start
Title: Re: Ever seen this on a spool?
Post by: oldmanjoe on August 31, 2022, 01:19:56 AM
    O Tay    The story is a young man fishes with his penn reel .    He has a few spare spools with different sizes mono  10 pound 14 pound 20 pound .            He labeled the spool that had 14 pound mono on a white tape tag .     Years later it was time to re spool with fresh 14 pound and notices that he has a hard time seeing his old label,eye sight failing     So he gets the old ladies red nail polish and blocks in 14 . 
     Now he can see this .      More time passes eyes getting worse so now he resorts to the raised letter label maker   , You know is like braille .    Make seance ?    :d 
Title: Re: Ever seen this on a spool?
Post by: Gfish on August 31, 2022, 02:30:27 PM
Thinkin bout it, 14lb. ain't as common as 12 or 15. Might be plain ol' spool number 14.
Title: Re: Ever seen this on a spool?
Post by: jurelometer on August 31, 2022, 07:32:45 PM
Quote from: Dominick on August 30, 2022, 11:07:00 PMFourteen is the lowest even n for which the equation φ(x) = n has no solution, making it the first even nontotient, therefore putting the number on a spool makes perfect sense.  I'm surprised everyone doesn't know that.
Dominick

Brilliant!  But is it a tribute to Euler for his mathematical contributions to reel design, or something deeper - perhaps a clue of some sort?  Aren't totients used in the most common public key encryption protocol?...

This could explain a lot of things.  I always suspected that spinning reels were the key to unlocking the secrets of the deep state.  Why else would they exist?  ;)

-J

Title: Re: Ever seen this on a spool?
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on August 31, 2022, 08:00:52 PM
Quote from: jurelometer on August 31, 2022, 07:32:45 PM
Quote from: Dominick on August 30, 2022, 11:07:00 PMFourteen is the lowest even n for which the equation φ(x) = n has no solution, making it the first even nontotient, therefore putting the number on a spool makes perfect sense.  I'm surprised everyone doesn't know that.
Dominick

Brilliant!  But is it a tribute to Euler for his mathematical contributions to reel design, or something deeper - perhaps a clue of some sort?  Aren't totients used in the most common public key encryption protocol?...

This could explain a lot of things.  I always suspected that spinning reels were the key to unlocking the secrets of the deep state.  Why else would they exist?  ;)

-J


To cast when coincidentally facing a slight breeze?
Title: Re: Ever seen this on a spool?
Post by: elcarlstono on August 31, 2022, 08:10:45 PM
 Coincidentally (or not?!?!) my HS football number was 14, and I try to wear 14 when I play adult soccer.
Maybe this person was really superstitious  and thought putting their lucky number on the spool would lead to more fish?
Enjoying all the "theories", BTW.
Title: Re: Ever seen this on a spool?
Post by: oldmanjoe on September 01, 2022, 12:27:34 AM
Quote from: Gfish on August 31, 2022, 02:30:27 PMThinkin bout it, 14lb. ain't as common as 12 or 15. Might be plain ol' spool number 14.
Well if you show me your Secret Squirrel Membership card than i can give you more information about 14 and 17 pound mono .     The previous owner of this spool was in the know . 
Title: Re: Ever seen this on a spool?
Post by: sandbar on September 01, 2022, 02:51:53 AM
E5F29768-2538-471A-AE08-1C9D86A7DC20.jpeg I found this tonight on a 710Z.
😳
Title: Re: Ever seen this on a spool?
Post by: elcarlstono on September 01, 2022, 03:12:29 AM
The plot thickens
Title: Re: Ever seen this on a spool?
Post by: jurelometer on September 01, 2022, 09:21:49 PM
Look around the insides of an old Euro spinner, especially a Bavarian brand, and I bet you will find something like this engraved in an inconspicuous place.

(https://alantani.com/gallery/37/11927-010922211017.jpeg)


-J
Title: Re: Ever seen this on a spool?
Post by: Jim Fujitani on September 01, 2022, 11:10:42 PM
Stren mono used to come in 14# and 17#.  I don't know if they still do, I haven't shopped for any Stren in decades.