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General Maintenance Tips => Tools and Lubricants => Topic started by: exp2000 on September 22, 2016, 01:33:31 PM

Title: Cracking stubborn spool pins on larger reels
Post by: exp2000 on September 22, 2016, 01:33:31 PM
I recently encountered a big spool pin on a larger reel which would not budge no matter what so I was forced to come up with a new solution which worked very well.

I placed a hollow brass ferrule over one end of the pin and used the jaws of a small vice to press out the pin out through the ferule. Once you "cracked" the initial press fit, the last bit of the pin could be easily drifted out.

This is a really good technique for larger stubborn spool pins to facilitate access to the spool bearing  :)
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Title: Re: Cracking stubborn spool pins on larger reels
Post by: Rancanfish on September 22, 2016, 02:48:18 PM
That's pretty clever.  I just gave up and cleaned the bearing behind mine and called it good.

I know I'm going to have to use your method some time so thanks!
Title: Re: Cracking stubborn spool pins on larger reels
Post by: boon on October 09, 2016, 03:42:29 AM
Has anyone ever tried a bicycle chain-breaker tool? I was working on a Torium the other day and I thought it could potentially work well...
Title: Re: Cracking stubborn spool pins on larger reels
Post by: exp2000 on October 09, 2016, 03:44:55 AM
Quote from: boon on October 09, 2016, 03:42:29 AM
Has anyone ever tried a bicycle chain-breaker tool? I was working on a Torium the other day and I thought it could potentially work well...

Good idea provided you can get it in a workable position.
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Title: Re: Cracking stubborn spool pins on larger reels
Post by: reel man on October 09, 2016, 06:51:52 AM
May not be true with foreign reels, but rule of thumb is to press the pin out left to right, and you are right about encircling the pin with a spud sleeve to prevent folding the pin over.
Title: Re: Cracking stubborn spool pins on larger reels
Post by: Shark Hunter on October 09, 2016, 07:11:35 AM
I have yet to meet a Sleeve pin that could defeat the correct punch and small hammer.
Title: Re: Cracking stubborn spool pins on larger reels
Post by: boon on October 09, 2016, 09:53:37 PM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on October 09, 2016, 07:11:35 AM
I have yet to meet a Sleeve pin that could defeat the correct punch and small hammer.


Indeed! The issue for small reels though is supporting the spool shaft sufficiently that you can hit the punch hard enough - if you bend the shaft even a teeny tiny bit you will get a wobbly spool.
Title: Re: Cracking stubborn spool pins on larger reels
Post by: Shark Hunter on October 10, 2016, 02:53:41 AM
My response was sleeve pin. I've missed the target here. :P
Title: Re: Cracking stubborn spool pins on larger reels
Post by: Hamachi on October 15, 2016, 06:22:45 AM
Quote from: boon on October 09, 2016, 09:53:37 PM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on October 09, 2016, 07:11:35 AM
I have yet to meet a Sleeve pin that could defeat the correct punch and small hammer.


Indeed! The issue for small reels though is supporting the spool shaft sufficiently that you can hit the punch hard enough - if you bend the shaft even a teeny tiny bit you will get a wobbly spool.

I usually drill a hole in a piece of 3/4" wood the size of the spool shaft. Then cut the top half of the hole off to create a cradle for the spool shaft. Following? Then drill a hole in the cradle to accept the pin or just drive it into the wood. I like the brass ferrule idea though.
Title: Re: Cracking stubborn spool pins on larger reels
Post by: exp2000 on October 15, 2016, 01:10:43 PM
QuoteI usually drill a hole in a piece of 3/4" wood the size of the spool shaft. Then cut the top half of the hole off to create a cradle for the spool shaft. Following? Then drill a hole in the cradle to accept the pin or just drive it into the wood.

Not really? You know what they say about a picture though ;)

Ah right. I am with you now. Good idea. This would support the shaft very well.
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Title: Re: Cracking stubborn spool pins on larger reels
Post by: Rancanfish on October 15, 2016, 02:02:04 PM
Some good solid ideas here.  I think I may readdress a 540 spool bearing now.

Daron, I read your post and never caught the missed target!  I was admiring your skill, because I tried it with a punch and hammer and wisely gave up before mushrooming the pin too bad.   ;D

Edit:  I think I saw Dawn carries the tool for this now....
Title: Re: Cracking stubborn spool pins on larger reels
Post by: Bryan Young on October 15, 2016, 06:01:19 PM
Quote from: Rancanfish on October 15, 2016, 02:02:04 PM
Some good solid ideas here.  I think I may readdress a 540 spool bearing now.

Daron, I read your post and never caught the missed target!  I was admiring your skill, because I tried it with a punch and hammer and wisely gave up before mushrooming the pin too bad.   ;D

Edit:  I think I saw Dawn carries the tool for this now....
Randy, I can send you a pin plied and you could send it back to me when you are done
Title: Re: Cracking stubborn spool pins on larger reels
Post by: boon on October 24, 2016, 09:48:53 AM
Quote from: Hamachi on October 15, 2016, 06:22:45 AM
Quote from: boon on October 09, 2016, 09:53:37 PM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on October 09, 2016, 07:11:35 AM
I have yet to meet a Sleeve pin that could defeat the correct punch and small hammer.


Indeed! The issue for small reels though is supporting the spool shaft sufficiently that you can hit the punch hard enough - if you bend the shaft even a teeny tiny bit you will get a wobbly spool.

I usually drill a hole in a piece of 3/4" wood the size of the spool shaft. Then cut the top half of the hole off to create a cradle for the spool shaft. Following? Then drill a hole in the cradle to accept the pin or just drive it into the wood. I like the brass ferrule idea though.

You know what, I did exactly that in the end for the last couple of Toriums I had in pieces. Great minds think alike :)
Title: Re: Cracking stubborn spool pins on larger reels
Post by: Fish-aholic on October 27, 2016, 08:09:56 PM
I own the reel speed spool pin pliers and when I come across any stubborn spool pins not able to be pressed out by hand pressure, I resort to placing the pliers in my bench vise helping to prise the pins out.

Once removed I place the pin in my drill press and rub it down with some coarse wet & dry and finish it off with 800. The pins thereafter are easily removable with the designated pliers by hand pressure alone.

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Title: Re: Cracking stubborn spool pins on larger reels
Post by: handi2 on October 27, 2016, 11:04:01 PM
I broke the pin on my pin pliers today and he doesn't make them anymore. I was highly upset!!

Title: Re: Cracking stubborn spool pins on larger reels
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on October 28, 2016, 10:11:22 AM
Keith,
Have you looked at the Boca pliers.
They have been working fine for me :)
Title: Re: Cracking stubborn spool pins on larger reels
Post by: Fish-aholic on October 28, 2016, 05:00:25 PM
Quote from: handi2 on October 27, 2016, 11:04:01 PM
I broke the pin on my pin pliers today and he doesn't make them anymore. I was highly upset!!

This is what I was worried about doing to mine when resorting to using my bench vise. Luckily for me I haven't come across such a stubborn pin that my pliers haven't been able to deal with.

I do share your pain, Keith, because the reel speed pin pliers are up there as one of my best buys for this endeavour we all enjoy.   
Title: Re: Cracking stubborn spool pins on larger reels
Post by: handi2 on October 28, 2016, 09:48:34 PM
Yes I did purchase the ones from Boca. I still want to fix the broken one someday.