Have a look at what's happening to my Tyrnos 16 - only 12 months old. Any ideas what causes this?
(http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd464/whitednj/Tyrnos16_corrosion_web.jpg?t=1300944475)
Holy cow. I would suggest contacting Shimano right away and email them pics of the problem.
Shimano where? I'm in Oz and purchased from a Japanese site. Received Dec 2009 and it has had 10 reef trips since then.
The corrosion is all over the frame, some bits (pictured) worse than others. This is supposed to be diecast aluminium. It should be able to withstand serious salt water. It gets washed after use although I'm not the sort of person who treats these things like their newborn children. This sort of bubbling in aluminium usually occurs because of electrolysis, not because of salt residue alone, otherwise my to aluminium boats would be cactus by now.
Maybe I need to attach a sacrificial anode!
first guess, defects in the anodizing.
I believe the frames of Tyrnos series reels are cast and painted, not anodized. I see this sort of problem, though rarely as severe, on many of the Tekotas and Tyrnos I see in the shop. They must be kept clean and once the paint chips the corrosion follows quickly...
Yep, that is cast aluminum and painted. Anodizing does not bubble like that since it is not a coating like paint. Big downside to cast aluminum is the porosity that is commonly found in standard cast products.. once you get any contamination, it can spread.. and depending on the quality of that run of cast frames, it could have been more susceptible to corrosion like this. either way, still looks more like a defective issue, than a maintenance issue, since that seems a bit excessive. maybe call shimano.
I would contact Shimano AU, and see what they will/can do for you..
That would be unacceptable to me in 1 yr!!!
http://www.shimanofish.com.au/
I have posted a message on the Shimano Australia site. Don't know if they will reply.
i think it's leprosy....... :-\
Good one Alan! ;D ;D ;D
Alan, funny you should mention that .... I have fished just off Fantome Island in the Palm Island group of Nth Queensland a few times with this reel. Fantome used to house a leper colony right up to the mid 60's. Could it be something in the water?
of course it is
actually, like aaron said, it's the paint job! :-\
Is this simply a cosmetic problem or will the corrosion affect the integrity of the reel in a fight to the death with a large fish? I don't care what it looks like so long as I can trust it staying in one piece.
Never seen anything like this, could you possibly strip the bad paint job and powder coat it?
it will work just fine. i'm betting shimano.au wants nothing to do with this discussion. i'd also bet that we could call shimano.us, then ship them the frame and they would send us a new one. :-\
Like Alan said, the reel should function fine. It is more a cosmetic thing than anything. and I don't think you could powder coat it because the tolerances might be too tight. Usually if you want to powder coat a piece, you need to plan for it in the tolerances. I guess you could have someone strip it down and repaint it, they would just have to really be sure to clean out the pores before the next paint job... otherwise the same thing can happen. Again, all this is just for cosmetics though... :-\
Thanks guys. I might put a bit of Penetrol on the bad bits to seal any air away from the metal.
To tie up the last loose end on this thread, I received a reply from Dunphy Sports Fishing Imports (Shimano Australia) ...
"No it will not affect the reel's performance in any way and will never go right through the frame. If you eventually wish to have the frame replaced the cost for one is $65+GST and postage."
I will let it continue on its merry way as it has character and unlikely to be stolen!
continue posting pictures of shimano's poor stepchild and you may attract their attention.
Good advice Alan. I would go directy to Shimano in Japan. Do they have small claims court in Australia? I would sue the importer, for selling and distributing defective products. So what if it is cosmetic. All my reels look cosmetically nice. One wants to take pride in his equipment. Dominick
that would involve every reel manufacturer in the whole world,or any other big place. ::)
well, yes, but if i had a reel company and i saw one of my reels that looked like that, i would want it fixed.
and if they dont? 3 months ago zebco said they were sending out a replacement seat for my new finnor ma20.they are all the same,they just suck and blow.aust; is worse.
I mentioned this problem on an AUStralia FISHing site and it seems that there are others with Shimano reels like mine. It's not a good look for Shimano and I'm glad that I've never been too concerned about the way things look, more about function, as this would drive me nuts!
shimano aust; are full of it.they wont honour the warranty because"IT DOESNT COME UP TO AUSTRALIAN STANDARDS"if you buy overseas.what a lot of rubbish.the reels are the same.esp; yours whitey,bought from a japanese site.maybe a shame file for the serious faults.run for a month with photos.things like,tyrnos,revo,my pet hate pretest braid,let the moderators judge if its bad enough.make this site stink with the
manufacturers,but just maybe we could make a diff;other sites may join in if it was done properly and not frivorviously.how do you spell that word.?other sites may join in if it was done gooder! ??? ???frivolously!
for what it's worth, here is my understanding of the shimano situation.......
shimano cares about the japanese market. japan is a very strange place. the market for fishing reels is unlike anything else in the world. shimano japan sells reels to the rest of the world as a simple courtesy. and don't get me started on japanese courtesy. so if shimano japan is winning in japan, that is all they care about. and if it's good enough for japan, then the rest of the world should accept it with open arms. after all, japanese are the best...... >:(
I'm would bet that reel was made in Malaysia or Taiwan where the quality is not up to Japanese standards. Nevertheless it's a Shimano reel and Shimano should do the "honourable" thing and at least replace the reel frame.
Quote from: Irish Jigger on March 31, 2011, 09:00:28 AM
I'm would bet that reel was made in Malaysia or Taiwan where the quality is not up to Japanese standards. Nevertheless it's a Shimano reel and Shimano should do the "honourable" thing and at least replace the reel frame.
You hit the nail square on the head, Irish! Something like "saving face"?
Rob
Quote from: alantani on March 31, 2011, 07:43:39 AM
for what it's worth, here is my understanding of the shimano situation.......
shimano cares about the japanese market. japan is a very strange place. the market for fishing reels is unlike anything else in the world. shimano japan sells reels to the rest of the world as a simple courtesy. and don't get me started on japanese courtesy. so if shimano japan is winning in japan, that is all they care about. and if it's good enough for japan, then the rest of the world should accept it with open arms. after all, japanese are the best...... >:(
Hey Alan,
This is so very true! Half-Japanese and other half Euro White.