If this isn't allowed I apologise and please feel free to delete this post, no hard feelings on my end. I am making these and selling them on eBay...I thought some of y'all may be interested. I made a lengthy YouTube video that pretty much covers everything. There is an index with links in the YouTube video description if you want to skip around to the different topics covered. If anyone has any questions please let me know!
Here is the eBay link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/142777828781
https://youtu.be/C9j8CjLtVn0
I know nothing about wrapping rod guides, but that looks like a really neat setup!
The Fishing Hobby,
The timing here is ironic😁....I've watched YouTube vids of your design process, from crutches and cutting boards , to this.... Was going to send you a PM, and ask if you were " the YouTube Fishing Hobby " guy....but now I know😁.....still trying to decide if I want to jump into another rabbit hole of rod rebuilding.....but if I do, I plan to keep it simple, and like your stuff!!!
Best of luck!
Brett
Quote from: xjchad on April 25, 2018, 02:40:25 AM
I know nothing about wrapping rod guides, but that looks like a really neat setup!
Thank you!
Quote from: bhale1 on April 25, 2018, 02:55:40 AM
The Fishing Hobby,
The timing here is ironic😁....I've watched YouTube vids of your design process, from crutches and cutting boards , to this.... Was going to send you a PM, and ask if you were " the YouTube Fishing Hobby " guy....but now I know😁.....still trying to decide if I want to jump into another rabbit hole of rod rebuilding.....but if I do, I plan to keep it simple, and like your stuff!!!
Best of luck!
Brett
Hey thanks! I really enjoy it. It is relaxing work to me. I plan on doing more videos geared towards people who aren't looking to do production work.
this is the type of product we like to see posted! ;D
and if the BOSS says its OK, well...you know.
Ron
Haha, thanks guys! I'm putting together some more videos about rod building basics for the hobby guys (not necessarily the professional rod builders). It takes me quite a while to put together a video, so they will be coming out as I complete them. If anyone has any questions and doesn't have a YouTube account to leave a comment there, please feel free to ask here!
Here is a video I uploaded that shows how to do a basic guide wrap, applying a CP and finish/drying technique.
https://youtu.be/BxRtH4dHK58
I have sold these a little quicker than I thought I would. I'm not complaining ;D
I don't know if anyone here has bought one or not. If so, I would love to hear some more feedback on them. Everything I have heard has been positive but I'm always looking for more feedback and unfortunately eBay places both time limits how much contact you have with fellow members.
Just though I would check. I've sold several to people in Indiana...I guess rod building in a popular thing there!
Rod machines are the most popular rod building machines for most of us. I personally have an Alps machine. I would move up to a Renzetti, because of the stile of the shuttle and thread carrier. That being said, the expense of that machine makes me hesitate. If you could make a shuttle with the design you have with the four spools to fit the alps I think that would be a saleable item for those of us that already have the Alps machines.
Joe
I would consider taking on a project like that. I would need some input about sizes and things of that nature. Would you be interested in some communication with me about that sort of project? If so, my email address is: thefishinghobby@gmail.com
If anyone else would like to have any input about this subject, please let me know. If people are interested, I will see what I can come up with.
I'm good at making things and I enjoy making items of good quality that will hold up well. My hand wrappers do a nice job and I took some inspiration from a lot of other designs and came up with something just a little different made out of good quality materials and it still is affordable for most. I don't see any reason why I couldn't do something similar with a thread carriage.
You guys let me know
Of course I will, I'LL take pictures and measurements of the cartage and explain to you what I'm looking for. Thanks for this offer.
Joe
No problem. Maybe we can figure something out that others would be interested in as well.
E-Mail sent....................Joe
there is an issue 'following you' on eBay - i added the item as a 'watched' item instead
thanks
Steve
Quote from: sundancer on August 23, 2018, 02:19:17 PM
there is an issue 'following you' on eBay - i added the item as a 'watched' item instead
thanks
Steve
It could be a temporary glitch with eBay or they may some sort of limit on the number of sellers someone can follow. Maybe try again later?
For that particular item (the wrapping jig) it would be best to watch it because I don't relist it, I just update the quantity as I make more.
I plan on designing and selling a power wrapper in the future so it would be nice if people follow me if possible if they were interested in new stuff I put out and I do sell some fishing gear as well.
I also will be posting on YouTube as new things come out. People can can subscribe to my channel (it doesn't cost anything, but you do need a YouTube account which is free to create) by clicking this link:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqne7f-bMbuFFlnKETAesiA
I have started working on a thread shuttle/carriage that can be used on a power wrapper as well for Reel 224 (Joe). I may start offering those as well if they turn out to work well for him.
Here is what I have so far, but it isn't completed yet.
I made almost that exact thing for my self some years ago, single spool, and it worked pretty well. Good luck on your endeavor.
John
Quote from: thorhammer on August 23, 2018, 02:52:57 PM
I made almost that exact thing for my self some years ago, single spool, and it worked pretty well. Good luck on your endeavor.
John
Thank you!
Thanks for joining and welcome. I don't wrap but looking at your set-up I might change my mind. Especially if you come up with an electric winder. Dominick
Quote from: Dominick on August 23, 2018, 06:05:13 PM
Thanks for joining and welcome. I don't wrap but looking at your set-up I might change my mind. Especially if you come up with an electric winder. Dominick
Thanks! I enjoy doing rod work. It is relaxing to me.
Ok
Was able to save you as a watcher vendor..
Thanks
S
Here is some finished pictures of the up grade shuttle that Mark made for my wrapping lathe. Works really great!
Joe
Mark, Kevin...close enough ;D
Well, I didn't know that roller wouldn't fit on you bench! Maybe it isn't needed? So it is working out good then? Looks right at home there!
Kevin; I'm sorry I screwed up you name ;D. Hey you know I'm 72 and I have CRS. So back to the shuttle. It works like a dream but don't worry about the support because I have the lathe close to me at the edge of my work bench. If someone wants the lathe moved back they can use the counter wheal as an extra way to hold the shuttle. As is on mine the shuttle moves along smooth as silk and the setup as far as the thread goes is excellent controlled with tension with the spring wire, only thing is in the future I would make it an 1"or 2" longer so as to have more back up control.
Thanks for the great work and turn around time, it was excellent.............................Joe
No problem, I was just giving you a hard time! Sounds like it worked out great! I would have liked to have made the tension rods longer but I just wasn't sure how much space you had to work with there (since I don't own a lathe like that) and I didn't want them to be in the way. It looks like longer rods wouldn't have been a problem. Thanks for the help with the dimensions and all of the questions I had about it. I took the measurements for the roller guide placement and I could make more based off of that design if anyone else wants one.
Interesting setup.
What's the purpose of the white wheel, and the connector between the 2 spool carriers?
The purpose of the white wheel is if the base was set a bit back then the wheel would support the carriage and move along smoothly. The riser on the base is the thread carrier and it can hold four spools of thread two on either side as to making it easier to change threads without changing a single spool at a time. It makes it much faster and also the design of that makes a much smoother thread wrap with the wire tension.
I hope that is answering you questions................................Joe
Yeah, what Joe said sums it nicely. I thought the wheel would give it more support because this carriage is quite a bit heavier than the stock thread shuttle. I didn't know it was going to overhang the workbench ;D
I guess it may not have been needed after all.
Quote from: akadashoe on September 01, 2018, 03:39:25 AM
Interesting setup.
What's the purpose of the white wheel, and the connector between the 2 spool carriers?
Oh, and the connector between the 2 spool rods...if you mean the orange bar between the tension springs and the spool...serves two purposes. First, it isolates the motion of the spools to keep the wingnuts from turning (which would either increase or decrease the tension on the spool depending on how you are pulling the thread off the spool) so you have a constant tension pressure on the spools. Second, it acts as a friction material on the spool kind of like a drag washer in a reel. The springs give you a more consistent pressure being applied and the bar and another round orange colored washer on the opposite side of the spool act as friction material. The tension pressure on the spool is pretty darn consistent and the thread pulls off the spools very smoothly. It is the same sort of setup I use in the hand wrappers I sell on eBay. Works really well in my opinion. I experimented with magnetic tensioning devices and found this setup to work just as smoothly so I went with it. The magnets are easily broken in magnetic tensioning setups if you aren't careful. No worries like that with this design and it works as smoothly in my opinion.
Gotcha.
I use something similar that I came up with for my Alps machine.
It's a home brew, ugly, but it will hold 5 spools, can be reversed 5 turns using a stainless steel wire, and has multiple eye screws which allow wrapping very close to the tip, which you guys know can be frustrating!!
I use nylon flat washers to bind the spools, which also act like a drag washer on the spools.
I've tried the magnets, but now use them to pick up metal parts I drop on the floor.
I prefer the carriage to be located behind the rod, which gives me more room to maneuver.
Here's another little helper I came up with to support the tip.
It's a simple bracket with a hole drilled in it and a spool bearing from a Squidder reel epoxied in.
It will hold up to about a size 12 tip, and keeps that tip very stable!
Happy wrapping guys!
Nice home made lathe. One question about the Thread Shuttle, I noticed the it is between the rod stands. Do you move it between the stands?
Joe
Correct Joe.
I just relocate the the stands as I go down the blank.
A little bit more cumbersome than having the shuttle on the opposite side, but it works for me!
Steve
Steve: I have found that what works best for you is the most important thing.................................Joe
Seems like with a little drilling, you could change which side of the base is toward the user. Seems like it would be possible to locate the thread shuttle side of the base behind the rod and just redrill the mounting bolts holes for the headstock on the opposite end of the base. Then you could mount the carriage behind the rod and it still wouldn't interfere with the rod supports. Any reason why you couldn't do that?
Quote from: The Fishing Hobby on September 01, 2018, 10:52:44 PM
Seems like with a little drilling, you could change which side of the base is toward the user. Seems like it would be possible to locate the thread shuttle side of the base behind the rod and just redrill the mounting bolts holes for the headstock on the opposite end of the base. Then you could mount the carriage behind the rod and it still wouldn't interfere with the rod supports. Any reason why you couldn't do that?
If I understand you correctly. You would have to reverse the wrapping lathe to do that, but I do not see the advantage to do that, from my perspective. I like the shuttle in-front of the work it does not hamper the work in any way.
Joe
Good idea, but I think you would have to rotate the whole assembly 180 degrees, as the track for the shuttle wheels is on the inboard side of the bed only.
That would require a whole new learning curve.
(if the mfg. were really sharp, they would supply a track on both sides)
I'm not a lefty, but I still have issues doing things right...... ;D
Quote from: Reel 224 on September 01, 2018, 11:35:34 PM
Quote from: The Fishing Hobby on September 01, 2018, 10:52:44 PM
Seems like with a little drilling, you could change which side of the base is toward the user. Seems like it would be possible to locate the thread shuttle side of the base behind the rod and just redrill the mounting bolts holes for the headstock on the opposite end of the base. Then you could mount the carriage behind the rod and it still wouldn't interfere with the rod supports. Any reason why you couldn't do that?
If I understand you correctly. You would have to reverse the wrapping lathe to do that, but I do not see the advantage to do that, from my perspective. I like the shuttle in-front of the work it does not hamper the work in any way.
Joe
You must have been posting while I was typing Joe! :D
Quote from: akadashoe on September 01, 2018, 11:40:13 PM
Good idea, but I think you would have to rotate the whole assembly 180 degrees, as the track for the shuttle wheels is on the inboard side of the bed only.
That would require a whole new learning curve.
(if the mfg. were really sharp, they would supply a track on both sides)
I'm not a lefty, but I still have issues doing things right...... ;D
Ranzetti solved that problem with elevating the track so as to run the shuttle arm under the platform. That is better but much more expensive.
Joe