Started to tear down my old Shakespeare 2110 and when I got to the part where you separate the head from the body, I got stuck.
I don't see any way to remove any nut or screw to get the body and head apart.
I have also been on a treasure hunt for my trip lever spring which departed for that big black hole called "now where the heck did that thing go?"
FRED...HELP!
Joe
I've never worked on one of those but my best guess is that there's a retainer C-clip in the groove between the pinion gear and bearing plate/rotor assembly. Maybe it's rotated down so it's difficult to see. Schematics are hard to come by for that model.
Tommy has it. Between the pinion gear and body inside the reel is a clip that is "U" shaped. Get a small sharp tool to lift it up or a small screwdriver.
The "U" clip is shown upside down right above and next to the small gear (pinion gear)
Keith
That's good info to know--about that clip. Might run across another reel worked the same way.
Frank
Quote from: happyhooker on September 13, 2017, 02:17:49 AM
That's good info to know--about that clip. Might run across another reel worked the same way.
Frank
A lot of the older reels are set up that way. Any time rotor disassembly isn't completely obvious that's the first place I check out. Many times there's so much old grease there it's still hard to figure out. ::)
thanks guys, I'll check it out in the morning.
Lo and behold, miracles do happen...my wonderful, gorgeous, fantastic wifey found my trip spring!
Quote from: joesan on September 13, 2017, 05:10:42 AM
thanks guys, I'll check it out in the morning.
Lo and behold, miracles do happen...my wonderful, gorgeous, fantastic wifey found my trip spring!
Usually, about once a month, I groom the carpet in my office/reel room with a 150 magnet to find some of those escapees. :D
Tommy and Frank, thanks for the info...the clip was easy to remove and am now ready for cleaning.
I have one question...there is a pin that connects the yoke to the shaft. It seems to be bent and I don't know if this is intentional ( ensuring a tight fit, but I was able to remove the pin easily with just my fingers)or a bad pin that needs to be replaced. The pics are the pin showing the bend, the pin and the shaft, and 2 pics of the pin in the yoke and the shaft. I hadn't experienced any issue with the reel.
I have done some searching for a schematic of the 2110, with no luck. Every other schematic I see for Shakespeare 2xxx reels at reelschematic.com shows a different setup for the shaft/yoke/pinion.
Any thoughts on the pin issue would be appreciated. I probably won't find a new one, so before I try to fix this one, it would be nice to see if it is meant to be bent.
Once again, thanks for all the help
Joe
Keith, sorry I forgot to thank you as well
Joe
Kieth's going to have to answer that one since I've never been inside one of those. It could be bent originally to fit tightly in the shaft hole, got bent from stress or someone intentionally bent it to remove slack. See what Kieth thinks but if it goes in all the way, is tight and works fine I wouldn't worry too much about it.
I think Tommy answered your question. Its bent, or the wrong part, but it works. If the line is reeling on the spool just right I would leave it alone.
since it works as a "keeper", I'll take your advice and just use it the way it is.
It all looks like this now, and I'll post a new pic when it is finished
Thanks again guys
Well, I finally got it done. Without a schematic and not paying attention to how it came apart I thought I would be in major trouble, but with prayer and patience (and Tommy's assurance I'd get it done)I got it back together with one small problem. I lost the small shim under the cam for the anti-reverse lever and had to improvise a solution to make the lever fit properly, since I couldn't find a small shim with a large diameter hole in a not much larger diameter shim.
Anyway, as we (Chayse a 10 year old) was trying it out, caught a 10inch SM Bass. I didn't think a smile could get that big.
Good work, Joe --
And thank you for the gift can of Kroil -- it arrived in the mail today.
Look forward to using it
Best,
Fred
So, you broke in that 2110 with a nice fish (& a happy partner in the bargain).
I got a Ryobi RSX2 recently that apparently has a U-shaped clip like you faced with the 2110 (to hold the rotor on to the body), so seeing what you had to do gives me a leg up when I get to working on the Ryobi.
Frank
If I can help in any way Frank, let me know. I don't know how closely the Shakespeare resembles your Ryobi, but there doesn't seem to be anything fancy in my old reels. Fred, Tommy and the rest of the crew here will give you the confidence to just do it.
Be sure to take photos from many angles during the tear downs and it can make re-assembly so much easier if you don't have a schematic. Unfortunately I learned that lesson too late. Also, the small springs for bails, anti-reverse and such can be "little dabs of nastiness" along with very small and thin shims. Some of these appeared only when I cleaned all the parts in solvent as they stuck to other parts tenaciously. Fred warned me about that too, but I still managed to lose a few. Good luck.
Fred, I love the Kroil and have used it originally for engine tear downs and now use it for any nut, bolt screw removal especially when it looks like it is rusted shut forever. Soak the spot and leave it for 1/2 hour and it has never failed to do the job.
Quote from: joesan on October 15, 2017, 05:33:10 AM
Be sure to take photos from many angles during the tear downs and it can make re-assembly so much easier if you don't have a schematic.
I take pics sometimes, but I've always liked to sketch & usually make drawings as I go about springs going in this-a-way, roller guides going in that-a-way & so forth. I keep a running narrative so I have notes for future reference & if anyone asks about something. Keep it all in a binder.
Your method sounds good too. I guess I'm too impatient to do that. I now have my phone sitting next to me when I work on a reel and just make snapshots at each stage. At my age, 75, I need the pictures.
Well done, Joe, you got it working and catching fish again. Best of all, you were able to get a BIG OL' SMILE ;D, and that's what it's all about! ;)