Ya'll, I'm not sure if I made a good find or not. I'm pretty sure this is gonna turn out to be a good reel. The other day I was perusing that evil auction site, and came across this reel. It's a Penn 114HLW, with a full Penn aluminum frame. It was 95.00 shipped, buy it now. So, I figured what the heck. An aluminum frame alone cost that much. The pics looked pretty good. The seller had good ratings. I hit the buy it now button.
It got here today. I was pleasantly surprised. There wasn't much time for me to open her up and look at the insides. However, I did take out all the outer screws, grease them and put them back in. There were no screws corroded or stuck. The base looked good as well. I removed all the screws on the base, greased them and put them back on. The reel is a bit dirty. I can see a layer of dirt on the bottom inside of the frame, where water and grime collects below the spool. It should be easy to clean out. I'm headed out of town this afternoon. So, I won't be able to get to it until next week. I'm pleased with it so far. It looks to have 80lb mono on it. The drag feels good on it.
Does anyone know if these reels came with stainless gears? HT100 drags? What years were these made? I haven't seen many of these, only two on the evil auction site. And, I got one of them. Did I pay too much, or get a reasonable deal? Here are some pics.
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I've had a few of these. They are really good reels. The ones I had came with a brass main and stainless pinon gears. Although, I've seen other 114H that had the old steel main gear. Personally, I like the look of the stock frame over the aftermarket ones. At $95 you did pretty good. I think I sold mine for $165 each.
It will have the bronze gears and HT-100 drags. Very nice find.
That is a good deal for a wide in that Condition.
From looking at the Plates, I would say it has a brass main and an HT-100 five stack inside.
Sounds good. My gut feeling was that I should hit the buy button. I think I'll pull the line off, clean her up good, lube and service the reel. Then put her on a rod and fish with her. For my 114H I have 100lb braid with a short 80-100lb leader with an 12-18 inch steel leader for sharks from the boat. I think with this reel I'm gonna load it with 100lb braid and maybe 150-200yrds of 80lb mono, and a short 100lb leader with the 12-18in wire. I'm gonna put her on an 8' heavy action Ugly Stick, and fish her from the beach.
I've fished around the gulf coast in the Galveston, TX area since 1982, and I've never seen a Penn like this. There's lots of other 114's and 113's around here, but I've never seen a 114 like this one. Pretty cool.
They made those in an aluminum half frame version as well. I have a few. Great Reels.
Some are double dogged, with Black Pearl gears and handle upgrades.
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Quote from: Shark Hunter on January 07, 2017, 03:41:59 PM
They made those in an aluminum half frame version as well. I have a few. Great Reels.
Some are double dogged, with Black Pearl gears and handle upgrades.
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Sweet reels you have there Shark Hunter! I may end up with some upgrades on this one too. Upgrading reels is addictive. And lots of fun!
I bought the 1st of the 2 he had. I have a whole row of new parts for her. We did good 😊
These are listed in my 2004 catalog, not sure of other years...
Quote from: coastal_dan on January 08, 2017, 04:08:32 AM
I bought the 1st of the 2 he had. I have a whole row of new parts for her. We did good 😊
These are listed in my 2004 catalog, not sure of other years...
I was wondering who got the other one. Looks like we scored a couple of good reels. What upgrades are you planning to do?
Got one Darron turned me onto 'bout 2 mon. ago. With shipping I think it was about $80 from the "Big auction" site. Mine's probably a step down from yours when comes to the frame, it's a 1/2 frame with a ss post at the lugs. Hada ss pinion n' brass main, 5 c-tex drag washers, lotsa 60 lb. mono. and was in great workin shape. I really like it. It's like steppin over the line to a small, but true "big game" reel. A definite step up from the mid-80's 114HL with the alum. cross-bars and old style ss seat I already had. Wasn't gonna change anything, but once I opened 'er up couldn't resist double doggen. Much better with alternating dogs.
Keep us updated!
Gfish
I've read a lot on here about double dogging these reels. I understand the basic procedure I think. I'm reluctant to try it on my own though. I have a dremel tool, but my hand isn't that steady with it. I'm afraid of destroying the sideplate trying.
Did Penn make a 113 series with the full aluminum frame? If they did, I'm gonna be on the hunt for one.
If ya haven't already seen it, there's a post by Sal on D. Doggin a 114H, about 4 subject posts up from this on page 2 a the main Senator tutorial index.
Gfish
Quote from: mley1 on January 08, 2017, 06:13:23 AM
Did Penn make a 113 series with the full aluminum frame? If they did, I'm gonna be on the hunt for one.
I've never seen one. Nothing listed in the catalogs or parts lists. That's probably why there are so many Accurate & Tiburon frames around. Rudy
Quote from: RowdyW on January 08, 2017, 06:33:29 AM
Quote from: mley1 on January 08, 2017, 06:13:23 AM
Did Penn make a 113 series with the full aluminum frame? If they did, I'm gonna be on the hunt for one.
I've never seen one. Nothing listed in the catalogs or parts lists. That's probably why there are so many Accurate & Tiburon frames around. Rudy
I hadn't ever seen one either. The 114HLW was a surprise for me. Initially, I thought wow. Some guy must've taken a couple Accurate or Tiburon frames, modified them with Penn tags, and slapped it together. Then I saw in the pictures the Penn tag clearly stated it was an aluminum frame. I watched it for a while, as he had two of them. Then, one got sold. I had to hit the buy it now button. At some point I may add some upgrades, like the drags, handle.....etc. I got this reel as my birthday present reel, the wife so graciously allowed me to buy. I'll have to wait a little while before I go to buying any upgrades.(Honey, if you read this, THANK YOU for my birthday present! I LOVE you!)
I'm still up in the air with upgrades...plans so far are DD, Bryans Drag Kit, handle/arm upgrade, SS Sleeve and SS Dogs...still trying to figure out what I want to do with Line...either all 80 lb Momoi Diamond or partial hollow/partial mono topshot...
I have it teared completely down and all cleaned up...winter will be kind to this reel ;D
One thing I've noticed recently...the full aluminum frames were available on the 114, the 114HL and the 114 HLW. I did look in my 2007 catalog and it shows the HLW with the full frame as well...
Those are really nice, I have the 114h size with aluminum frame, it's unfished, because I got into the Accurate upgrade scene and use them as my go to setups, Ill bet any of the full aluminum framed 114's are going to pull in a pretty penny for a collector, no need to upgrade the frame that's for sure, DD's, AT gear sleeve, Bryan's 7+1, Pro challenger gear set, and it will be a great reel for a long time. Time to put mine on the big auction
Just recently did a conversion for a friend who bought a full frame locally, not realising it was wide version. He ordered a wide spool from Scott's/Mystics, and we put it all together. I had already DD'd the plates, and we chucked in a SS sleeve I had laying about. Made some new SS dogs to go with it. Brutal reel, that swallowed up a truckload of 80lb braid, and roughly 100m 80lb mono topshot. Got 24lb of drag without too much stress on the star, with stock drags. This reel will stop just about anything.
Sounds like a beast Chris, will your mate get a chance to tackle a sword with it? I hope you had access to a spooling station to load the braid. ;D
Mike
Quote from: suitekids on May 19, 2018, 03:29:56 PM
Those are really nice, I have the 114h size with aluminum frame, it's unfished, because I got into the Accurate upgrade scene and use them as my go to setups, Ill bet any of the full aluminum framed 114's are going to pull in a pretty penny for a collector, no need to upgrade the frame that's for sure, DD's, AT gear sleeve, Bryan's 7+1, Pro challenger gear set, and it will be a great reel for a long time. Time to put mine on the big auction
Do you, or anyone else, think the Penn full frames would be worth more or less than the Accuframes?
Quote from: Gfish on May 20, 2018, 06:15:56 PM
Quote from: suitekids on May 19, 2018, 03:29:56 PM
Those are really nice, I have the 114h size with aluminum frame, it's unfished, because I got into the Accurate upgrade scene and use them as my go to setups, Ill bet any of the full aluminum framed 114's are going to pull in a pretty penny for a collector, no need to upgrade the frame that's for sure, DD's, AT gear sleeve, Bryan's 7+1, Pro challenger gear set, and it will be a great reel for a long time. Time to put mine on the big auction
Do you, or anyone else, think the Penn full frames would be worth more or less than the Accuframes?
I would say less, since Accurate doesn't make them anymore. I can get AL framed Senators for not much more than the bar version. It sucks getting one with the sideplate screws seized up though.
They don't make these anymore either, but, Accurate to this day always pulls a premium, just the way it is. I have 4 6/0 Accuframe conversions, and only have 1 of the Penn full frames. I agree about the screws snapping off, nobody seemed to fill all the holes with grease before re-assembly and the 2 different metals surely seized up on more than one occasion. Sal sent me a couple frames years ago to try and repair, Almost futile to drill and tap out the old snapped screw. I think to a "TRUE" Penn collector these should be worth a premium, they are rare in perfect or like new condition, more than the Accurate is IMHO. Mine is just the standard size 114H and not the 114HLW which is probably rarer yet, A chap has one on the bay right now for $145, and personally I think it's a steal!!!! But, I fish all my stuff and not an avid Penn collector, I have not fished my 114h full frame, it is like new, only thing I did was repack the bearings, put in a set of smoothdrags from Dawn, Greased the drags with Cals, and Yamaha greased painted the entire interior and filled all the frame holes with the needle greaser, and put it back in the drawer. LOL
Quote from: mhc on May 20, 2018, 10:12:32 AM
Sounds like a beast Chris, will your mate get a chance to tackle a sword with it? I hope you had access to a spooling station to load the braid. ;D
Mike
Maybe not a Sword, but possibly a jumbo tuna in the next couple of weeks. No to the spooling machine, actually spooled it in a car park over a few coffee's. Got a few strange looks!
I think my mate got the frame for about $60 AUD delivered. Condition wise, probably 7-8/10. Sounds like it may have been a bargain. I'll make him aware that these full frames could be a bit rare, so he will look after it properly.