I decided to install a second dog on a Baymaster 180, this reel will do just fine with one dog, but I just had to do it ;D.
I soaked the parts in Simple Green for a couple of days and here they are, nice and clean
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grind out the plate for the second dog
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For drags I used .75mm laminated carbon fiber washers, a delrin washer for under the gear and one on top of the stack, right below the last metal, in this case the tension spring
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dogs are clicking really nice, but you won't be able to see them under the plate
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I also replaced the plastic spool with the metal spool, I know I know, you guys believe that these will warp, I believe that in these particular reels, they will do just fine
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Broadway, (Dom) was kind enough to send me a couple, Thanks again Dom ;). This man doesn't know when to stop ::) ;D.
Nice little reel
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I never had much interest in these reels, but I'll tell you what, I would never go out without one. I've been using them lately and really enjoy them.
Thanks to Ron ( noyb72), he's been telling us how great these little reels are and I finally listened.
I also have an older 180 with the lighthouse that I will be doing some day.
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Most of my reels have the works, stainless steel sleeve and star, aluminum spool and Tiburon frame, If you're on a budget, there is no need to go all out, all I recommend on this one is a better handle, carbon fiber washers and delrin washers, that's about it.
If yours has a plastic spool, that one does have to go.
Good luck upgrading your own, the metal washers are brass, they'll do just fine.
I usually squeeze the drags a couple of times and if needed, I'll shave the spacer sleeve a little so I get the star travel just the way I like it.
That delrin is doing a great job making everything silky smooth.
Any questions...just ask!
Enjoy!
Sal
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That looks great Sal..! Can you tell me the size of the boxes of SS screws show?
Sure Keith : 5/40x5/16 and 5/40x3/8 slotted fillister head ss machine screws.
Sal,
That's the luckiest spool ever to be put in a Baymaster... you do great things with your reels and I/ we appreciate your knowledge, generosity, and willingness to always help out.
Looks like a striper slayer to me. Just because I know you tested it... What was the difference in drag pressure before and after the delrin washers? Also, does the top delrin washers always go right under the last metal washer in all the Senators?
Thanks,
Dom
PS- That's quite a bin of dogs and springs ya got there :o
What you need now is to do the same with a RED plates Penn 27. ;)
Quote from: broadway on September 14, 2014, 03:25:18 AM
Sal,
That's the luckiest spool ever to be put in a Baymaster... you do great things with your reels and I/ we appreciate your knowledge, generosity, and willingness to always help out.
Looks like a striper slayer to me. Just because I know you tested it... What was the difference in drag pressure before and after the delrin washers? Also, does the top delrin washers always go right under the last metal washer in all the Senators?
Thanks,
Dom
PS- That's quite a bin of dogs and springs ya got there :o
Dom, couldn't really compare the drags, the original were shot. The delrin will not incease drag numbers, but it will help increasing them. What I mean by that is that when you push these reels to their max the drags usually get jerky, delrin will help minimize jerky drags.
You're right, these would make nice gear for stripers and blues, I caught some nice size channel catfish on the Chesapeake with them and drags remained as smooth as butter ;).
Quote from: Porthos on September 14, 2014, 05:36:48 AM
What you need now is to do the same with a RED plates Penn 27. ;)
Porthos, would a 25 do? ;D
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Placed it next to a black plate one , for contrast, but didn't help much.
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Sal
Gotcha! Makes sense. This will really help on my wire reels as the bottom washer is usually quite chewed up at the end of the season.
Does the delrin top washer go just under the last metal washer on all senators?
Thanks for the explanation,
Dom
Sal, That is Sick! ;D
Good job Sal. I opened a bottle of Zin Wayne brought over the other evening. We did a good job on it and later on in the evening I decided to open another. Oh well one glass led to another and before you knew it the bottle was empty. I have a question after drinking too much wine do I have a double hair of the dog the next day? I need help. Dominick
Yep!...salute bud ;).
I find it hard to believe that you don't have a secret remedy for getting rid of "the night before" with all the practice you have ;)
I figured you knew an old witch doctor that could give you a talisman or a potion and poof all better.
Dom
Sal,
I love it!
I bought my first one on eBay by mistake and you told me what would fit. I love this size reel, they make great 20#mono reels once serviced and can be built into fantastic 40# braid YT killers with all the goodies added. That spool will last forever, it is the ones with the swaged ends that apparently have problems. I have done good with my girls 85s with those style spools.
Ron
Good to know Ron, thanks. I was about to send a pm, I haven't seen you around and wanted to make everything was ok....good to hear from you. ;)
I'm getting ready to go back to sea. USS City of Corpus Christie need a weapond Dept. LCPO and apparently I'm it! I'll still be around, but not nearly as much. Don't for a minute think I love you guys any less.
Ron
Be safe....
Go, Navy!! :)
~A~
That is pretty cool, thanks!
Ron
We know you love us... I mean, how could you not. ;)
We feel the same, safe travels!
Dom
Seeing that submarine from Aiala, reminds me of a time about 25 years ago over in Monterey Bay.
We were on my friends 21' Bayliner Trophy -- we launched from Moss Landing, at the center of Monterey Bay -- and were trolling for Salmon with 2 electric powered down riggers -- one deep, one high.
We were on the edge of the canyon where it drops off to around 4000' deep -- just easy fishing -- can't remember if we caught much that day.
Suddenly, the port side down rigger apparently was caught on something that was moving away from us. We quickly took the boat out of gear, then reversed the power trying to catch up to whatever had the weight on the end of the SS cable. The boom started to flex, and it looked as if the down rigger mount was going to tear loose from the boat. Before we could do anything else, the cable snapped.
Well, we did not ever find out what happened -- but thought maybe a whale, shark, or submarine must have been the culprit.
We told everyone it was a research sub -- but it was probably a whale.
Who knows?
Best,
Fred
I can niether confirm nor denay that I have dug out long line hooks and/or smaller gear from a submarine. I can tell you that they are covered in a rubbery substance that sharp things love to get stuck in ;)
Ron
Well looks like you may have hooked one
next time you will have to land It :D :D
Quote from: noyb72 on September 15, 2014, 05:38:57 AM
I can niether confirm nor denay that I have dug out long line hooks and/or smaller gear from a submarine. I can tell you that they are covered in a rubbery substance that sharp things love to get stuck in ;)
Ron
Any inline, non-offset, circle hooks? :D
Sal - Nice Job! My parts are currently soaking in Simple Green. Looking forward to getting her back together. What are you gonna end up running for line, braid or mono?
Quote from: jonnou on September 15, 2014, 09:28:58 AM
Well looks like you may have hooked one
next time you will have to land It :D :D
If you bring it in & Gaff it. Will it win the Jack Pot?? Maybe DQed
Mike
once again sal , fantastic job, beautiful , the pictures were great.
Getting my rods ready for Florida this coming weekend.
I picked up another Ugly stick G2 for my 180. This should make a great little Kayak Reel.
Stay Safe Ron! Haze Grey and Underway brother!
Hey Daron,
Did you rig the turret and gun as a down rigger while you were out there? ;D
Dom
Quote from: foakes on September 15, 2014, 05:06:22 AM
Well, we did not ever find out what happened -- but thought maybe a whale, shark, or submarine must have been the culprit... Who knows?
If you ask the Discovery Channel, it was undoubtedly a Megalodon. ;D
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A~
looking good Daron ;). When I visited my brother at Norfolk VA... a long time ago, the Captain was nice enough to give me a personal tour of this beauty
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USS MITCHER MISSLE DISTROYER
I bet you won't be able to do that anymore :(
oops, left out the S ...USS MITSCHER
This was a Spruance Class destroyer I was on. She was Decommissioned in 2003. They brought her out to sea and blasted her with Torpedoes. :'(
She was a brave vessel, Mr. Shark. Here is her story: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Fife_(DD-991)
~A~