Got a jigmaster with stainless fine thread gear sleeve
The star striped out. I have a corse thread
Star. Can I re tap the corse thread one to fit
And do y'all know the thread pattern for
The fine thread gear sleeve
Thanks Michael
Hi Michael --
I have never tried that -- but I kind of think that when your done, there may be a little too much slop or even a possibility of the star failing at the wrong time.
Just because when rethreading from coarse to fine, on a thin piece like this -- there may not be enough metal for a good thread job -- but it may work well -- nothing to lose by trying -- and let us all know how it comes out.
Interesting to see if it works.
Someone like Sal or Alan may have better information than me.
Good luck,
Fred
Thanks I will give it a try and let you know
no, send me a pm with your shipping info and i will send you a fine thread star, no charge.
Quote from: alantani on September 21, 2014, 09:45:09 PM
no, send me a pm with your shipping info and i will send you a fine thread star, no charge.
That is great thanks Alan!!
got your address. i wrote up an envelope for shipping and i will try to get into tomorrow afternoon's mail.
Quote from: alantani on September 21, 2014, 10:29:49 PM
got your address. i wrote up an envelope for shipping and i will try to get into tomorrow afternoon's mail.
That is great thanks Boss
Alan just sent u a pm.
After further inspection.
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My star is not striped like as bad as i thought.It will still screw on to my brass sleeve fine.As you can see in the pic the threads of the stainlees sleeve are bad.They are very rough and not deep enough.
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as you can see the threads on the brass sleave look fine.
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I can scew the star on it fairly easy.
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heres the star.This was a new stainless sleeve that i installed i noticed when i first put it on that the threads were not that smooth but thought it would be fine.My best guess is that they werenot cut deep enough.Yall's thoughts?
Mike
Where did you buy the Bridge Sleeve? I don't want to make the same mistake. All of the Penn Bridge Sleeves that I have installed have been bought from AT & were perfect.
Mike
I need to talk to the person I got it from
Before we start naming names. I am not
Sure of his sorce. I think it is just a quailty control
Issue one that slipped through the cracks
By mistake.
Mike - You could also PM me. I have no problem with waiting though.
Mike
wow!!!!!!!! that is definitely one of my gear sleeves!!!!!! before i send them out, i look at each one. the damage to this is so obvious that there is no way it could have left the house looking like that. if it came to you like this, the damage had to happen AFTER it left here. i'm not even sure that a coarse thread gear sleeve could do that amount of damage. it looks almost like someone had a coarse thread stainless steel star and tried to force it onto this fine thread stainless steel gear sleeve. a brass star would have been soft enough that the stainless steel threads should have survived. i am still sending you a 10-505 fine thread star.
That's exactly what I thought when I first saw it. That sleeve was not made as shown, each thread is cut in the middle, something had to do it. I also believe it had to be a fine threat stainless star, couldn't be anything else :-\.
Quote from: alantani on September 22, 2014, 04:53:42 PM
wow!!!!!!!! that is definitely one of my gear sleeves!!!!!! before i send them out, i look at each one. the damage to this is so obvious that there is no way it could have left the house looking like that. if it came to you like this, the damage had to happen AFTER it left here. i'm not even sure that a coarse thread gear sleeve could do that amount of damage. it looks almost like someone had a coarse thread stainless steel star and tried to force it onto this fine thread stainless steel gear sleeve. a brass star would have been soft enough that the stainless steel threads should have survived. i am still sending you a 10-505 fine thread star.
I got the gear sleeve from OCD reel service. Which is Mr. Kieth he is handi2
Here on the site. I noticed when I got the sleeve the threads were kind
Of rough but not like they are now. I was checking the drag on it Friday
Night and was not getting but 6 # of drag with new carbontex drags 3+1 set
I wanted to see what my max drag was because I had one of Bryan's kit
To install in it and wanted to compare numbers. I tighten the drag down
Got 6 # and that was all. Tried to lock it down and that's when it striped out.
This gear we've had been in there 2 weeks been fished once in fresh water
I am a mechanic and welder by trade. It looks to me like the threads were
To shallow and they were brittle. Not blaming anybody I think it was just
Bad luck on my part.
Quote from: Alto Mare on September 22, 2014, 05:03:03 PM
That's exactly what I thought when I first saw it. That sleeve was not made as shown, each thread is cut in the middle, something had to do it. I also believe it had to be a fine threat stainless star, couldn't be anything else :-\.
The star n the pic is the original one that came off the brass gear sleeve
That came in the reel. It is the one I used on the stainless sleeve. It is a 10-505
It will scew on to the brass sleeve fine right now. It Wobbles on the other
Sleeve because the threads are gone. Not trying to blame or argue with
Anybody. Just want to determine what happend and I got to get a new sleeve
Ordered. Diameter of the threads and sleeve could have been alittle small not sure
I agree that the brass should have went before the stainless turned loose
But u see the pics. Not sure what happened.
Yup,
The only thing that would cause that issue is a flaw in manufacturing --
Or more likely, at some time, maybe before in your possession -- a coarse thread SS star was forced onto the sleeve, by accident.
Like Alan said, the wrong stock chrome over brass star would not even affect the finer threads on the SS sleeve. It would just distort the brass star threads, since they are so much softer.
Just my observation...
Best,
Fred
Talked to the Boss and he said we were going back
With a corse three ad gears sleeve and differnt
Star when he gets the parts in. Alan thanks
A bunch really enjoyed talking with you!
Quote from: mike155 on September 22, 2014, 05:16:59 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on September 22, 2014, 05:03:03 PM
That's exactly what I thought when I first saw it. That sleeve was not made as shown, each thread is cut in the middle, something had to do it. I also believe it had to be a fine threat stainless star, couldn't be anything else :-\.
The star n the pic is the original one that came off the brass gear sleeve
That came in the reel. It is the one I used on the stainless sleeve. It is a 10-505
It will scew on to the brass sleeve fine right now. It Wobbles on the other
Sleeve because the threads are gone. Not trying to blame or argue with
Anybody. Just want to determine what happend and I got to get a new sleeve
Ordered. Diameter of the threads and sleeve could have been alittle small not sure
I agree that the brass should have went before the stainless turned loose
But u see the pics. Not sure what happened.
No Mike, no one is arguing, that's not what we do here. We just like to get to the bottom of it and try to find out what happened...as we do with everything else. You will be all set one way or another.
Sal
Quote from: Alto Mare on September 22, 2014, 09:16:26 PM
Quote from: mike155 on September 22, 2014, 05:16:59 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on September 22, 2014, 05:03:03 PM
That's exactly what I thought when I first saw it. That sleeve was not made as shown, each thread is cut in the middle, something had to do it. I also believe it had to be a fine threat stainless star, couldn't be anything else :-\.
The star n the pic is the original one that came off the brass gear sleeve
That came in the reel. It is the one I used on the stainless sleeve. It is a 10-505
It will scew on to the brass sleeve fine right now. It Wobbles on the other
Sleeve because the threads are gone. Not trying to blame or argue with
Anybody. Just want to determine what happend and I got to get a new sleeve
Ordered. Diameter of the threads and sleeve could have been alittle small not sure
I agree that the brass should have went before the stainless turned loose
But u see the pics. Not sure what happened.
No Mike, no one is arguing, that's not what we do here. We just like to get to the bottom of it and try to find out what happened...as we do with everything else. You will be all set one way or another.
Sal
That's right that's what makes this site so good is everybody helping each other
Figure out the problems
got a 10-505 star, a 10-66 star and a coarse thread gear sleeve in the mail to you!
Quote from: alantani on September 22, 2014, 09:46:57 PM
got a 10-505 star, a 10-66 star and a coarse thread gear sleeve in the mail to you!
That is great thanks. Will post up when I get it put in.
Alan got the parts today. I have another Abu 5600 to service tonight. But
If I have time I will get the parts in the jigmaster.
Thanks Michael
yeah, still not sure what happened with your original.
Got chance the other night and got the parts put in the 500.The new parts worked great!I had to trim the spacer a little so i would have room for full drag range.The new star that Alan sent was thicker.everything seems to be working good. thanks for the parts Alan and thanks everybody for the help.