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General Maintenance Tips => General Questions and Trouble Shooting => Topic started by: Fishy247 on May 29, 2019, 05:34:32 PM

Title: Marking Spectra?
Post by: Fishy247 on May 29, 2019, 05:34:32 PM
I'm trying to figure out how to mark spectra for depth, preferably in 10' increments. Can I just use a sharpie or is that going to weaken it?

Thanks,
Mike
Title: Re: Marking Spectra?
Post by: conchydong on May 29, 2019, 05:52:19 PM
You can mark it without hurting the line but it will be a lot of work and eventually wear off. Tuf-line Guide's Choice indicator changes color every 10 feet and is made by the same mill as Jerry Brown.
Title: Re: Marking Spectra?
Post by: Dominick on May 29, 2019, 06:29:38 PM
Just mark it Mike.  Do it on the boat.  Use a bright color.  Dominick
Title: Re: Marking Spectra?
Post by: Fishy247 on May 29, 2019, 06:40:36 PM
Good to know it won't hurt it. Thank you gentlemen!

I was thinking just black because it's white line. Would red be better? I'll be using it for flatfalls at night probably.
Title: Re: Marking Spectra?
Post by: alantani on May 29, 2019, 07:10:47 PM
Wipe it down as best you can after. The ink can bleed badly. Jerry Brown "decade" hollow core braid changes color ever 10 yards.  That might be an option.  Otherwise,  get a sharpie and mark away!
Title: Re: Marking Spectra?
Post by: Fishy247 on May 29, 2019, 07:13:43 PM
QuoteWipe it down as best you can after. The ink can bleed badly. Jerry Brown "decade" hollow core braid changes color ever 10 yards.  That might be an option.  Otherwise,  get a sharpie and mark away!

Good to know. I'll probably just do like Dom suggested and do it on the boat. probably on the way out.

Thanks for all the replies!
Title: Re: Marking Spectra?
Post by: MarkT on May 29, 2019, 08:12:41 PM
I'd just mark it in 60' increments for dropping flat falls at night.  The captain usually says he's marking fish at 60', 120', 180', etc because their fish finder is set to fathoms, not feet.  I put a couple stakes in my backyard 60' apart then pull line to the far stake, back to the close one then back to the far one.  That'll give me three marks at 60/120/180... done!  When you drop, count how long it takes until you see the next mark so you can just count down to any in between depth or depths greater than 180.  I use 6" black marks on my white spectra to see them easier at night.  You can put one mark at 60, 2 at 120 and 3 at 180 incase you lose count on the way down.
Title: Re: Marking Spectra?
Post by: Fishy247 on May 29, 2019, 09:15:31 PM
QuoteYou can put one mark at 60, 2 at 120 and 3 at 180 incase you lose count on the way down.

I like that idea. I didn't know they had their depthfinders set to fathoms. The few times I've done the flatfall thing, they called out the depth in feet. I'll have to pay attention to see if he's calling it out in multiples of 6....
Title: Re: Marking Spectra?
Post by: conchydong on May 29, 2019, 11:29:26 PM
If you are fishing at night you can always tie some nail knots with lighter spectra on the increments you choose, that way you can feel it in low light conditions. That is commonly used in Swordfishing.
Title: Re: Marking Spectra?
Post by: SoCalAngler on May 30, 2019, 03:24:37 AM
One pull from the reel to stripper guide is about 3'. Just count the pulls to depth you want. Really not hard to do, if you have a basic understanding of math.
Title: Re: Marking Spectra?
Post by: Fishy247 on May 30, 2019, 04:34:32 PM
Up here in Santa Cruz, we mooch for salmon, so I'm no stranger to pulling it off a foot at a time... ;)
Title: Re: Marking Spectra?
Post by: oc1 on May 30, 2019, 08:23:58 PM
Quote from: conchydong on May 29, 2019, 11:29:26 PM
If you are fishing at night you can always tie some nail knots with lighter spectra on the increments you choose, that way you can feel it in low light conditions. That is commonly used in Swordfishing.
Instead of a nail knot, I use light spectra to tie indicators on with what would be considered half of a uni-to-uni knot.  Eight wraps and trim the two tag ends.  It stays in place even when cast through the guides, but can be adjusted by sliding it along the main line.  I like being able to feel the indicator as it goes by without looking.

I usually use moss green Power Pro.  Black marking pen on dark green spectra disappears fairly quickly.  Maybe it would remain visible on white or yellow spectra.

-steve
Title: Re: Marking Spectra?
Post by: theswimmer on May 30, 2019, 08:31:32 PM
Spectra can and will be degraded by any solvent , of such a Sharpie has to keep the ink liquid.
As a climber and rigger with over 35 years experience we see failures at the worst times.
I have personally seen 2 failures right where names were written on Spectra slings .  As a climber I have also observed extreme degradation on 5 mm cord where marked with a Sharpie. Not a good thing where that piece of pro may be the only thing protecting you from a 60 foot whipper.....
Not my choice for marking Spectra or Kevlar .
Title: Re: Marking Spectra?
Post by: mrwilson99 on May 30, 2019, 11:13:50 PM
Mine are marked with a Sharpie every 100 yards.
Title: Re: Marking Spectra?
Post by: boon on June 03, 2019, 10:41:14 AM
Quote from: SoCalAngler on May 30, 2019, 03:24:37 AM
One pull from the reel to stripper guide is about 3'. Just count the pulls to depth you want. Really not hard to do, if you have a basic understanding of math.

Sometimes we target fish sitting in over 300ft, you would be there for a while hand-stripping it.

Coloured braid is your friend on this one. On heavy setups for a temporary marker we've even used a small rubber band before.
Title: Re: Marking Spectra?
Post by: jurelometer on June 03, 2019, 07:45:45 PM
Quote from: theswimmer on May 30, 2019, 08:31:32 PM
Spectra can and will be degraded by any solvent , of such a Sharpie has to keep the ink liquid.
As a climber and rigger with over 35 years experience we see failures at the worst times.
I have personally seen 2 failures right where names were written on Spectra slings .  As a climber I have also observed extreme degradation on 5 mm cord where marked with a Sharpie. Not a good thing where that piece of pro may be the only thing protecting you from a 60 foot whipper.....
Not my choice for marking Spectra or Kevlar .


Interesting...


Spectra is made from a super high density form of polyethylene.  I found a manufacturer's  polyethyline chemical compatibility table.  While many   solvents are listed as compatible for polyethylene containers,  some were not, including xylene,  which is used or used to be used in some permanent markers.   I didn't find xylene listed in a recent  MSDS for some common types of Sharpies.  I might risk it for marking fishing line,  but not for anything that would keep me attached to the side of a cliff :)

I learn something new every time I come by this site.

-J
Title: Re: Marking Spectra?
Post by: oc1 on June 04, 2019, 01:33:13 AM
The spectra dogma is that it does not break down with UV exposure either.  That is simply not true.  It may degrade more slowly than most plastics but it only takes a few weeks under a subtropical sun to get a noticeable loss of breaking strength.
-steve