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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn 99/Jigmaster/SurfMaster/Squidder Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: Jkjhung on September 22, 2017, 04:11:00 AM

Title: Penn 501 20lb rod suggestion
Post by: Jkjhung on September 22, 2017, 04:11:00 AM
Which rods would you recommend to pair with a 501? I have a bunch of setups in the 30lb range for fishing norcal waters, and I want to try out a 20lb. It's always more fun on lighter tackle right?
Right now I am considering a calstar 700L (which I'm afraid might fish more like a 25 than a 20), a calstar 196, and a calstar 270-8. I am also considering a phenix 807. What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Penn 501 20lb rod suggestion
Post by: Swami805 on September 22, 2017, 12:25:28 PM
All of those would work it would come down to personal preference and what you'd use it for. For filylining  live bait the 196-8 would be nice. For rockfish in deeper water the 270-8 or a 270-8h to take a little more lure weight. A 700l or xl is a little different action but would give a little more power to lift fish. A 708 should work just fine as well. Best bet is if you can go pull on them to see what you like.
Title: Re: Penn 501 20lb rod suggestion
Post by: SoCalAngler on September 22, 2017, 03:04:21 PM
It depends on how you will mostly use the rod. For deep drops and more bottom fishing I like a 7' stick and for flylinning live bait and cast artificial's I like a 8' rod.
Title: Re: Penn 501 20lb rod suggestion
Post by: Jkjhung on September 22, 2017, 05:34:43 PM
I suppose I'll be using the rod mostly for artificials.

Would a 270-8 be kind of an all-arounder? Can it be used for flylining?
Title: Re: Penn 501 20lb rod suggestion
Post by: MarkT on September 22, 2017, 06:30:46 PM
Yes to both.
Title: Re: Penn 501 20lb rod suggestion
Post by: SoCalAngler on September 23, 2017, 04:24:30 AM
You mentioned a composite rod the 700L, so if you don't mind spending more on these you may also want to look at a 800XL or a 800XLH. Like stated the 270-8 will work fine. One of my 20 lb rods is a 800LX, I love this setup and others like the 800XLH. I use a 800L for 25 lb and a 270H-8 for one of my 30 lb setups. The 270-8 and the 800L are pretty close in action and feel but I got a smoking hot deal on the Graghiter so I went that route.

Like someone else said if you can get to a tackle shop and pull on some rods and get the one that feels right for you.

Make no mistake about it I'm a Calstar guy, as you can probably tell, so others may have other manufactures to look at.

Edit: All of my 8' rods are deckhand style/no reel seat and this will also keep cost down.
Title: Re: Penn 501 20lb rod suggestion
Post by: Jkjhung on September 23, 2017, 01:48:47 PM
Quote from: SoCalAngler on September 23, 2017, 04:24:30 AM
You mentioned a composite rod the 700L, so if you don't mind spending more on these you may also want to look at a 800XL or a 800XLH. Like stated the 270-8 will work fine. One of my 20 lb rods is a 800LX, I love this setup and others like the 800XLH. I use a 800L for 25 lb and a 270H-8 for one of my 30 lb setups. The 270-8 and the 800L are pretty close in action and feel but I got a smoking hot deal on the Graghiter so I went that route.

Like someone else said if you can get to a tackle shop and pull on some rods and get the one that feels right for you.

Make no mistake about it I'm a Calstar guy, as you can probably tell, so others may have other manufactures to look at.

Edit: All of my 8' rods are deckhand style/no reel seat and this will also keep cost down.

Thanks for your input. Would you say that the 270-8 fishes more like a 25# rod? I want a true 20# rod, or even a light 20# rod.

Here in the Bay Area my options for calstars are limited. The 196-7, 700L, and 270-8 were the only ones I mentioned because they are the only ones I could find near me. All used. The 700L is now out of the question, as I've learned that it is definitely a 25# and is pretty stiff.
Title: Re: Penn 501 20lb rod suggestion
Post by: broschro on September 23, 2017, 02:30:33 PM
Shimano tallus tlc-70m 14-25lbs. I use this on My jig master. It has a softer tip with plenty of backbone.
Title: Re: Penn 501 20lb rod suggestion
Post by: SoCalAngler on September 23, 2017, 02:31:45 PM
Quote from: Jkjhung on September 23, 2017, 01:48:47 PM
Quote from: SoCalAngler on September 23, 2017, 04:24:30 AM
You mentioned a composite rod the 700L, so if you don't mind spending more on these you may also want to look at a 800XL or a 800XLH. Like stated the 270-8 will work fine. One of my 20 lb rods is a 800LX, I love this setup and others like the 800XLH. I use a 800L for 25 lb and a 270H-8 for one of my 30 lb setups. The 270-8 and the 800L are pretty close in action and feel but I got a smoking hot deal on the Graghiter so I went that route.

Like someone else said if you can get to a tackle shop and pull on some rods and get the one that feels right for you.

Make no mistake about it I'm a Calstar guy, as you can probably tell, so others may have other manufactures to look at.

Edit: All of my 8' rods are deckhand style/no reel seat and this will also keep cost down.



Thanks for your input. Would you say that the 270-8 fishes more like a 25# rod? I want a true 20# rod, or even a light 20# rod.

Here in the Bay Area my options for calstars are limited. The 196-7, 700L, and 270-8 were the only ones I mentioned because they are the only ones I could find near me. All used. The 700L is now out of the question, as I've learned that it is definitely a 25# and is pretty stiff.

For me yes, but many others fish a 270-8 for 20 lb. Personally I like the 800XL for 15-20 lb and the 800XLH more as a 20 lb setup. But, rod selection varies from person to person,so it's time to pull on some rods if you can.
Title: Re: Penn 501 20lb rod suggestion
Post by: JRD on October 07, 2017, 06:12:12 PM
Sorry I'm late to this party.  Here is what I pair my 501 and 506 to.  Seeker Stealth, 8 foot deck hand style,  STL 8020-8' CT.  It's rated 15-25 and fits that 20lb range great.  Lots a back bone and still parabolic at the tip.  Cool color too.
Title: Re: Penn 501 20lb rod suggestion
Post by: Rancanfish on October 07, 2017, 06:35:14 PM
JRD, is that a trigger grip?  What kind of guides are on it?  Cost?   ;D
Title: Re: Penn 501 20lb rod suggestion
Post by: PacRat on October 07, 2017, 07:08:36 PM
It's a deckhand grip but you could use a trigger clamp on the reel.
Mike
Title: Re: Penn 501 20lb rod suggestion
Post by: JRD on October 08, 2017, 01:48:12 AM
Quote from: Rancanfish on October 07, 2017, 06:35:14 PM
JRD, is that a trigger grip?  What kind of guides are on it?  Cost?   ;D

Not sure the brand of guides but they are listed as stainless with ceramic inserts, the rods are now called the MGC series.  Retails about $170 I bought mine used, but pristine for $100.  As Mike said it's cork tape straight butt.
Title: Re: Penn 501 20lb rod suggestion
Post by: Jkjhung on October 08, 2017, 06:56:59 PM
Quote from: JRD on October 07, 2017, 06:12:12 PM
Sorry I'm late to this party.  Here is what I pair my 501 and 506 to.  Seeker Stealth, 8 foot deck hand style,  STL 8020-8' CT.  It's rated 15-25 and fits that 20lb range great.  Lots a back bone and still parabolic at the tip.  Cool color too.

Nice choice! Looks like you found a good deal on one used too. I was unable to find a good deal on a used rod so I went with a new calstar 270-8.
Title: Re: Penn 501 20lb rod suggestion
Post by: vilters on October 08, 2017, 09:29:57 PM
great choice, you will never be sorry for choosing a calstar, some of the best rods still. 270 is a perfect #20 lb. rod in my opinion.