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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Other Reel Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: Reel 224 on November 15, 2014, 02:18:41 AM

Title: Pflueger Capital No. 1988
Post by: Reel 224 on November 15, 2014, 02:18:41 AM
I have this reel and have been trying to find out what the function of the right side,crank side retractable pin is in conjunction with the Bakelite front plate. There are marks on the plate as well as the reel body indicating that the Bakelite plate can be rotated about 1/4". The reel is a 1950s Pflueger Capital No. 1988 Here are some pictures. I could also use some information on dissembling the front side so as to free up the Bakelite plate so it will rotate...if that is what it is supposed to do.

   
Title: Re: Pflueger Capital No. 1988
Post by: Bryan Young on November 15, 2014, 02:42:27 AM
Unscrew the pin, pull the pin out and hold while rotating the sideplate to take the sideplate off like the jigmaster.
Title: Re: Pflueger Capital No. 1988
Post by: Reel 224 on November 15, 2014, 02:47:38 AM
Quote from: Bryan Young on November 15, 2014, 02:42:27 AM
Unscrew the pin, pull the pin out and hold while rotating the sideplate to take the sideplate off like the jigmaster.

Bryan: I am able to pull the pin without unscrewing it,but the plate will not rotate.

Would you have any suggestions on how to free up the front plate?
Title: Pflueger Capitol No. 1988
Post by: Reel 224 on November 17, 2014, 02:21:30 PM
Perhaps I should have posted my question here on a Pflueger Capital No. 1988 that I am have a problem with. The reel is frozen on the front Bakalite plate to the reel body and I was hoping someone here could help me with a suggestion as to how I can free it from the frame so it will rotate. Haven't had any success yet with WD-40 and a little persuasive tapping. I don't want to force the Bakalite plate to much as I'm sure it will brake or crack if forced to much. Yes the pin is working and I can retract it when trying to rotate the body.
Title: Re: Pflueger Capitol No. 1988
Post by: alantani on November 17, 2014, 07:23:37 PM
if it's the reel i'm thinking of, there are marks that tell you how far back you have to rotate the side plate before it will pull off. i think it's just like a jigmaster. 
Title: Re: Pflueger Capitol No. 1988
Post by: Bryan Young on November 17, 2014, 09:26:39 PM
I have used a strap wrench to get mine off.  This is one of my favorite reels because it was the very first conventional reel that I had used for surf fishing.  It was given to me by my grand uncle.  I believe it uses squidder drags if I recall.  Let me look for mine and I'll get back to you.
Title: Re: Pflueger Capitol No. 1988
Post by: Reel 224 on November 17, 2014, 11:17:01 PM
Quote from: Bryan Young on November 17, 2014, 09:26:39 PM
I have used a strap wrench to get mine off.  This is one of my favorite reels because it was the very first conventional reel that I had used for surf fishing.  It was given to me by my grand uncle.  I believe it uses squidder drags if I recall.  Let me look for mine and I'll get back to you.

I can understand you liking this reel. I love it,It's smooth and has good power and if I could modify the handle length it would even be better.

I have a strap wrench some ware, if I can find it Ill give it a try...Well as I was typing my wife came up from the basement with the strap wrench and it turned. But I cant get it to pull completely apart. Got it!!!! Man that was tighter then a clams Butt. I'm going to clean it up and see if I can get it working a little easier.

Thanks for the suggestion of using that belt wrench,that did the trick!! Ill take some pictures of the seen now.

 
Title: Re: Pflueger Capitol No. 1988
Post by: Bryan Young on November 18, 2014, 06:05:05 AM
Success...I love it when a plan comes together.
Title: Re: Pflueger Capitol No. 1988
Post by: Reel 224 on November 18, 2014, 02:14:48 PM
Quote from: Bryan Young on November 18, 2014, 06:05:05 AM
Success...I love it when a plan comes together.

Yes,me too :D Thanks for your help Bryan. I'm wondering if there are any spools available for that reel? The one that is on this reel has some pitting,I could do some polishing on it but I'm sure it will take the nickle platting off.
Title: Re: Pflueger Capitol No. 1988
Post by: Bryan Young on November 18, 2014, 03:12:31 PM
No spools that I know of.  I haven't compared spools from other brands to see if the would fit though.
Title: Re: Pflueger Capitol No. 1988
Post by: Reel 224 on November 18, 2014, 05:05:19 PM
Quote from: Bryan Young on November 18, 2014, 03:12:31 PM
No spools that I know of.  I haven't compared spools from other brands to see if the would fit though.

So do ya think the polishing of the original spool would be good?
Title: Re: Pflueger Capitol No. 1988
Post by: Bryan Young on November 18, 2014, 07:13:46 PM
I would remove the corrosion and polish the spool then seal it with a good wax and you would be goo to go again.
Title: Re: Pflueger Capitol No. 1988
Post by: Bryan Young on November 18, 2014, 09:49:30 PM
The gear sleeve is square.  I wonder if the Accurate or Shimano TLD arms would fit?  Can you measure the dimensions of the gear sleeve where it joins the handle?
Title: Re: Pflueger Capitol No. 1988
Post by: handi2 on November 19, 2014, 02:05:05 AM
I'll look tomorrow b/c I have a few of these reels..
Title: Re: Pflueger Capitol No. 1988
Post by: Reel 224 on November 19, 2014, 12:28:22 PM
Quote from: Bryan Young on November 18, 2014, 09:49:30 PM
The gear sleeve is square.  I wonder if the Accurate or Shimano TLD arms would fit?  Can you measure the dimensions of the gear sleeve where it joins the handle?

If I'm understanding you correctly, you are asking for the diameter of the portion of the spool shaft that meshes with the crank gear. Correct?

Here are some Dimensions:   Crank gear OD 0.462" Spool shaft gear OD 0.562" Spool gear slot spacing ID 0.290" (there are three) If you need other dimensions let me know.
Title: Re: Pflueger Capitol No. 1988
Post by: Bryan Young on November 19, 2014, 03:24:21 PM
Thank you.  I was asking for the area where the handle arm is joined to the reel.  The handle arm is secured to the reel through a square opening.  I need the size of the square opening.  Thank you
Title: Re: Pflueger Capitol No. 1988
Post by: Reel 224 on November 19, 2014, 03:48:15 PM
Quote from: Bryan Young on November 19, 2014, 03:24:21 PM
Thank you.  I was asking for the area where the handle arm is joined to the reel.  The handle arm is secured to the reel through a square opening.  I need the size of the square opening.  Thank you

Man I was way off base,sorry. Give me a second and Ill get that measurement. That is 0.310"
Title: Re: Pflueger Capital No. 1988
Post by: Bryan Young on November 20, 2014, 04:38:38 PM
Okay, that's larger than a TLD20, smaller than a TLD20II, Larger than an Accurate,...Does anyone else know of a handle arm that may fit?
Title: Re: Pflueger Capital No. 1988
Post by: Reel 224 on November 21, 2014, 12:01:48 PM
Quote from: Bryan Young on November 20, 2014, 04:38:38 PM
Okay, that's larger than a TLD20, smaller than a TLD20II, Larger than an Accurate,...Does anyone else know of a handle arm that may fit?

Bryan: Could I possibly file out the opening on the TLD20 to fit the Pflueger No.1988
Title: Re: Pflueger Capital No. 1988
Post by: Bryan Young on November 21, 2014, 04:33:55 PM
The TLD20 is 7 mm by 7 mm.  0.310" is 7.874 mm.  You will need to file approximately 1 mm on each side for it to fit.  Alan has handle arms http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=114.0 in stainless that you could file down for this application.  The TLD20 original handle are really small...looks like they were made for kiddy reels...seriously.  If you are interested in an arm, send Alan a PM.
Title: Re: Pflueger Capital No. 1988
Post by: Reel 224 on November 21, 2014, 05:28:07 PM
Quote from: Bryan Young on November 21, 2014, 04:33:55 PM
The TLD20 is 7 mm by 7 mm.  0.310" is 7.874 mm.  You will need to file approximately 1 mm on each side for it to fit.  Alan has handle arms http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=114.0 in stainless that you could file down for this application.  The TLD20 original handle are really small...looks like they were made for kiddy reels...seriously.  If you are interested in an arm, send Alan a PM.

I sent the PM Bryan thank you.
Title: Re: Pflueger Capital No. 1988
Post by: alantani on November 22, 2014, 07:33:55 AM
the handle arm i sent to you was an old prototype jigmaster handle arm with a "double D" hole.  take a look when it arrives.  i think it will work. 
Title: Re: Pflueger Capital No. 1988
Post by: Reel 224 on November 22, 2014, 02:36:40 PM
Quote from: alantani on November 22, 2014, 07:33:55 AM
the handle arm i sent to you was an old prototype jigmaster handle arm with a "double D" hole.  take a look when it arrives.  i think it will work. 

I will and I'm sharpening up the files  now if needed.
Title: Re: Pflueger Capital No. 1988
Post by: $Bill on November 28, 2016, 03:52:26 PM
I always find good info here! I just bought one of these reels yesterday and started looking for info on it. The main reason I bought it was because it is on a vintage St. Croix solid fiberglass deep sea rod. I got the whole rig for $28. I hope I didn't spend too much!