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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn Senator Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: BMITCH on January 19, 2014, 04:02:09 PM

Title: TANK 3D
Post by: BMITCH on January 19, 2014, 04:02:09 PM
Ok, so on another thread I posted pics. Of a triple dogged 113hn. Well here it is completed. As many SS parts that are currently available along with some mods that I did. Enjoy!

Step 1: alternating double dogs.

(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y502/MITSERVCS/null_zps86bdd8f4.jpg)

Step 2:the idea.

(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y502/MITSERVCS/null_zps521d3365.jpg)

Step 3:Making it happen.

(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y502/MITSERVCS/null_zps09b824eb.jpg)

Step 4:making sure of clearance with the frame and spool.

(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y502/MITSERVCS/null_zpscca99542.jpg)

Step5:assembly.

(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y502/MITSERVCS/null_zps1bb03767.jpg)

Step6:finished product.

(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y502/MITSERVCS/null_zps5e56515f.jpg)

(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y502/MITSERVCS/null_zps2b3e1d4e.jpg)

(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y502/MITSERVCS/null_zps079a8391.jpg)

(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y502/MITSERVCS/null_zps23b755a6.jpg)

(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y502/MITSERVCS/null_zpsf26ed274.jpg)

After this build I think I'm gonna need a 12 step program ::)

Can anyone tell me what's a really a big difference with this reel on the outside,other than my manical obsession with screws?

Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: Brendan on January 19, 2014, 04:07:06 PM
     I cant believe it, very nice.
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: Keta on January 19, 2014, 04:16:15 PM
Nice!

Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: BMITCH on January 19, 2014, 04:18:26 PM
Thanks guys. Lee NONE of this happens without your knowledge and help ;D
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: Shark Hunter on January 19, 2014, 04:25:43 PM
Where did you get that funky end plate? ;D
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: BMITCH on January 19, 2014, 04:29:22 PM
Ding,ding,ding. Daron gets the prize.theend plate is from the H2 series.they only have 5 screws so I driled and counter sunk the additional three holes. I know, over kill but I liked the tuna logo.
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: Shark Hunter on January 19, 2014, 04:30:55 PM
Yea, I like it too! Good Job BOB! ;D
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: johndtuttle on January 19, 2014, 04:35:47 PM
Strong Work!  ;D
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: Chris Gatorfan on January 19, 2014, 04:55:38 PM
S3XY reel there.
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: Topshot on January 19, 2014, 05:12:11 PM
With everyone's knowledge and creativity. I give it 6 months before there is a quadruple dogged, 3 speed, 14+1 drag stack, mind controlled senator haha
:D
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: Bryan Young on January 19, 2014, 05:16:16 PM
Now you need to post a video so we can heart how it sounds. Very nice work.
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: Bucktail on January 19, 2014, 06:45:21 PM
Awesome work Bob!
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: Lensters on January 19, 2014, 07:44:42 PM
Where did you get the stainless torx screws?  With the frequency that I tear into my reels the chrome cover brass screws get mangled quickly.
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: BMITCH on January 19, 2014, 08:03:01 PM
Lensters, the Torx screws are a 6-32 SS from McMaster Carr. As most know about me I'm fanatical about the screws. I tappedoutthe frame using a bottoming tap and installed the screws. A word of caution though. On the Tib frames you need to be careful to make sure not to bind the tap due to the soft material. Also make sure that the larger thread does not come through the side of the frame.
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: pompano joe on January 19, 2014, 08:16:34 PM
Where did you get the handle...not the knob, but the handle itself?
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: erikpowell on January 19, 2014, 08:17:13 PM
Great job Bob! I think the series2 side plate is a cool addition.

wasn't that the scoreboard stumper from a month or so ago?  ;D i didn't even notice the tuna.

it's already monday morning here... so I gotta get to work now
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: Topshot on January 19, 2014, 08:21:39 PM
Quote from: pompano joe on January 19, 2014, 08:16:34 PM
Where did you get the handle...not the knob, but the handle itself?

You can order those from keta (lee). He's the one who makes them
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: BMITCH on January 19, 2014, 08:59:50 PM
Quote from: erikpowell on January 19, 2014, 08:17:13 PM
Great job Bob! I think the series2 side plate is a cool addition.

wasn't that the scoreboard stumper from a month or so ago?  ;D i didn't even notice the tuna.

it's already monday morning here... so I gotta get to work now


Erik, last months stumper was a little more difficult. That was a 114H with full frame that normally has 5 screws for the side plate. I drilled and tapped the three additional screw holes. This is all cosmetic stuff that I'm doing. Again it's all good and fun!
Bob
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: BMITCH on January 19, 2014, 09:06:21 PM
Pompano joe, yes those come from Lee(Keta) they are HD. Let's give credit to you also. The 113h Baja harness lugs you posted on another thread. I used those. Only problem was I needed to cut them off to fit the bridge. Thanks for the idea!
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: surfcaster on January 20, 2014, 01:11:29 AM
At risk of my opinion being discredited by a moderator Nice reel!
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: BMITCH on January 20, 2014, 01:43:58 AM
Thanks surfcaster. I think I'll make the next stumper more difficult ::)
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: Shark Hunter on January 20, 2014, 02:29:09 AM
Quote from: surfcaster on January 20, 2014, 01:11:29 AM
At risk of my opinion being discredited by a moderator Nice reel!
;D
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: Dominick on January 20, 2014, 05:42:34 AM
Great stuff.  Nice neat work also.
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: Shark Hunter on January 20, 2014, 06:26:03 AM
Bob is movin' on up! ;D
Great work Buddy! ;)
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: john2244 on January 20, 2014, 08:21:14 AM
Very nice work !!!

John
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: DaBigOno on January 20, 2014, 10:36:46 AM
Great job Bob!
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: Irish Jigger on January 20, 2014, 11:00:13 AM
Nice work there Bob.
The third dog is well supported with it's locating screw tapped into the frame.
Good thinking.
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: BMITCH on January 20, 2014, 11:07:37 AM
Tom, thanks.! Coming from you that means alot ;D time will tell if that third dog holds up. I know Sal had some concern on this point. It seems robust enough. I wouldn't try this with the standard frame with inner ring though. I think that wouldn't support the third dog screw/pivot point as well. This is getting me thinking on my 114H with the Penn one piece frame that maybe this could be done there also. When I get a free moment I will check it out. I'm trying to find out how to post a video at this point. The sound of the three dogs is really neat!
Bob
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: Newell Nut on January 20, 2014, 12:14:28 PM
Really nice looking project. I like to hear my dogs talking too.
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: Chris Gatorfan on January 20, 2014, 06:36:40 PM
Bob are you running Stainless post. They could stop some of the flex there.
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: BMITCH on January 20, 2014, 06:45:36 PM
Chris, I'm not sure what you mean?? The screws are 18-8 SS. Unfortunately they didn't carry 316 stainless in the screw design I wanted.
Bob
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: Chris Gatorfan on January 20, 2014, 07:31:45 PM
Wow my bad, I have been looking at so many reels this morning my head is going crazy, I thought you had a SS post on the top but i see now it is an open top. What i was trying to say though is if you had an SS post across the top it could give some added support to the are with the dog in case there is any flex on a heavy load.
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: BMITCH on January 20, 2014, 07:58:46 PM
Np. Chris. All comments welcome even if they have NOTHING to do with this thread ;D lol
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: broadway on January 20, 2014, 11:23:11 PM
Awesome job, Mitch!
Not to mention, all 3 are alternating! ... bet she sounds like she's singing a song to you now ;)
Well done,
Dom
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: BMITCH on January 21, 2014, 12:40:31 AM
Thanks Dom, someone here said maybe a quad dog. It can be done. I was thinking about it on this one. There is room for one more dog but I need to test the side plate where this third dog is. Sal raised a good point about maybe there is too much stress on the side plate screw. Unlike using the bridge screw. I don't know...I got a couple of other side plates to play with and zero time to do it. The timing for quad dogs alternating would be easy at this point due to having a template for the dogs now. Really only the one need major modification. The others were pretty much stock from Lee. I dunno we will see...... ::) ;)
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: Shark Hunter on January 21, 2014, 12:45:51 AM
Hell, Just go ahead and make sextuplet dogs and get it over with! ;D :D
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: Ron Jones on January 21, 2014, 03:33:52 AM
This may be a point where aluminum side plates make sense, but what we really need is a ratchet with more teeth.
Ron
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: pcde123 on February 03, 2014, 07:16:35 AM
how much did it cost to put it all together?
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: CapeFish on February 03, 2014, 07:25:02 AM
Nice work, is all the cutting away not weakening the sideplate though? Can the sideplate handle the stress that 3x dogs can?
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: BMITCH on February 03, 2014, 10:49:57 AM
Quote from: pcde123 on February 03, 2014, 07:16:35 AM
how much did it cost to put it all together?

I'm not 100% sure of the final cost, but if I had to guess its somewhere around $300-$350.
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: BMITCH on February 03, 2014, 10:58:40 AM
Quote from: CapeFish on February 03, 2014, 07:25:02 AM
Nice work, is all the cutting away not weakening the sideplate though? Can the sideplate handle the stress that 3x dogs can?

Not sure if it will weaken the side plate significantly? Hoping to stress it on fish this coming season. What I really need to do is run it with only the new third dog in the reel and see what happens. That's if I get the time to do that. Im doing to fish this with 80# indicator line with a 60# floro leader. So we're only talking about 30# of drag max. In reality it's more likely going to be somewhere around 20#-25# pounds of drag. That's where I'm most comfortable. My feeling is nothing ventured nothing gained. It sounds awesome though. I'm trying to figure out how to upload a video this week. So hopefully I'll be able to let you in on the sound.
Bob
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: steelfish on March 06, 2019, 01:06:17 AM
wwow, I missed this thread completelly

never though about seeing a 113h reel 3-dogged, just amazing

Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: Dominick on March 06, 2019, 04:05:08 AM
yes, Alex I had completely forgot about it.  Bob isn't posting as regularly as he used to.  Dominick
Title: Re: TANK 3D
Post by: Darin Crofton on March 06, 2019, 05:32:14 AM
I'm glad you guys dug this out, such great work on the dogs and I love the Tuna side plate big-time ;D