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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn International Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: WalterWyman on July 07, 2019, 06:43:30 PM

Title: International VISX 12 handle slipping under pressure
Post by: WalterWyman on July 07, 2019, 06:43:30 PM
One of the young guys I work with at the shop brought me his reel he had it on a rod and he wanted me to wind on the reel with some pulling the line out! The handle would slip as you would wind in the line under pressure. Not all the time but it would happen enough to cause fear! It would only happen in high gear and not low so.. inspecting the high speed gear I found that the edges of the slots of the gear were eared or ramped. The shift key was perfect so replacing the high gear fixed the problem. How does this get like this maybe shifting gears while winding?
Title: Re: International VISX 12 handle slipping under pressure
Post by: Rivverrat on July 07, 2019, 11:45:36 PM
How did the pinion look ?   Something obviously wasn't meshing up properly. Don't think shifting while winding would do this. Which would be a hard thing to achieve any way.  I've seen 2 speeds out of speck not fully engage or hesitate when shifting. The pinion & gear both wear damaged... Jeff
Title: Re: International VISX 12 handle slipping under pressure
Post by: handi2 on July 08, 2019, 01:05:32 AM
The shifting system and the parts that hold the gears in place is the downfall for these reels. Ive replaced parts on at least 7 of these reels that lost low gear.

The first picture is from a 50W. Its a correct. The second picture show the broken part that is missing. A Penn 12 VSX. The pictures are flopped...

Keith
Title: Re: International VISX 12 handle slipping under pressure
Post by: Bryan Young on July 08, 2019, 07:39:01 AM
Sometimes it's the worn shifting springs is the problem. Not strong enough will tend for the shifting key to slip. Slip enough times the slots wear out.
Title: Re: International VISX 12 handle slipping under pressure
Post by: alantani on July 13, 2019, 06:10:55 AM
similar situation.  had to shim the "sprocket" so that engaged 100%.  also replaced the two thin retaining ring with one thick one.
Title: Re: International VISX 12 handle slipping under pressure
Post by: Trixkelly on October 04, 2020, 02:30:25 AM
I'm having this issue on a 16 visx that's only been on two trips and three tuna at the island.
Glad to find this thread. Pondering taking on the repair my self or sending it out.

My reel seems to skip on the fifth rotation of the handle under load.
Title: Re: International VISX 12 handle slipping under pressure
Post by: Trixkelly on November 16, 2020, 02:16:05 AM
Reel was dropped at Ken's custom in Oside. They had to send it to Penn. it's been gone for a month now and await the word on just how bad it is / was.

Ck
Title: Re: International VISX 12 handle slipping under pressure
Post by: Trixkelly on November 19, 2020, 01:57:22 AM
Just got my visx 16 back from Ken's.
They sent it back to penn and a full gear set and shifter shaft was installed.
Reel works perfect now.
Thanks to Ken's in Oceanside, Penn reels, and Alan here for the list of parts to change out should I have decided to do the job.
Excellent service all the way around
Title: Re: International VISX 12 handle slipping under pressure
Post by: steelfish on May 22, 2023, 06:35:33 PM
seems that is a common problem of new Penn international models to Skip every few turns while having some pressure on the line

saw the same problem here
https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=33201.msg390140#msg390140

and a guys left me a Penn 20 VISX acting exactly the same, I've opened that reel before and didnt saw anything wrong (as many guys commented on different threads) now I need to open the reel again because we could reproduce the problem between two persons, hopefully is not an expensive fix.
Title: Re: International VISX 12 handle slipping under pressure
Post by: alantani on May 23, 2023, 02:53:51 AM
This is a known issue with these reels. They have to go back to penn.  :-\
Title: Re: International VISX 12 handle slipping under pressure
Post by: Benni3 on May 23, 2023, 10:23:28 PM
Put in free spoil,,,losen the drag all the way then put back in gear turn the handle tighten the drag a little as you do it,,, ;) this happen to me when I first got my vsx and then never had that problem again,,,,, ;D
Title: Re: International VISX 12 handle slipping under pressure
Post by: steelfish on May 24, 2023, 01:05:05 AM
Quote from: Benni3 on May 23, 2023, 10:23:28 PMPut in free spoil,,,losen the drag all the way then put back in gear turn the handle tighten the drag a little as you do it,,, ;) this happen to me when I first got my vsx and then never had that problem again,,,,, ;D

you should send this method to the guys of Penn  >:D
Title: Re: International VISX 12 handle slipping under pressure
Post by: steelfish on May 26, 2023, 12:48:03 AM
Quote from: alantani on May 23, 2023, 02:53:51 AMThis is a known issue with these reels. They have to go back to penn.  :-\

if its a known problem, do you know if there any kind of Recall or warranty for this problem?
Title: Re: International VISX 12 handle slipping under pressure
Post by: alantani on May 26, 2023, 12:41:39 PM
Not that I know of.
Title: Re: International VISX 12 handle slipping under pressure
Post by: Donnyboat on May 27, 2023, 12:07:27 AM
There definitely, should be, come on Penn get it right, its costly to send it back, so do the job properly, bad engineering, cheers Don.
Title: Re: International VISX 12 handle slipping under pressure
Post by: Tunanorth on July 06, 2023, 12:50:46 AM
Quote from: steelfish on May 26, 2023, 12:48:03 AM
Quote from: alantani on May 23, 2023, 02:53:51 AMThis is a known issue with these reels. They have to go back to penn.  :-\

if its a known problem, do you know if there any kind of Recall or warranty for this problem?




This is covered under the warranty, but has to go back to Penn in Philadelphia, no DIY available.
Title: Re: International VISX 12 handle slipping under pressure
Post by: alantani on July 16, 2023, 02:40:24 PM
penn has been great about taking care of this. it's certainly not every reel, but it does happen.