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Title: The Big Shark Rig vs a Human Being
Post by: The Great Maudu on June 22, 2018, 05:40:15 PM
I have been wanting to try an experiment for about a year. I wondered what would it be like to battle a Human Being. I thought if I had some kind of harness a man could get into, I could tie the line to the back of it and have him walk or run away from me. Well, today I got my chance. Some guys taking down trees on my property happened to be wearing just such a vest. Perfect! I approached one of them and offered $25 dollars cash if he would be my Land Shark. I didn't have my fighting belt and plate so I couldn't apply as much force as I would have liked, but the new drags and upgrades the Shark Hunter put in performed admirably. This is the same I caught a 14' Tiger Shark on last summer. Here's the video;
https://youtu.be/VuZtTeQETpw
Title: Re: The Big Shark Rig vs a Human Being
Post by: Shark Hunter on June 22, 2018, 05:47:25 PM
You need to put him in the pool. ;)
Title: Re: The Big Shark Rig vs a Human Being
Post by: steelfish on June 22, 2018, 05:49:29 PM
LOL, love how the shark was flipping at 0.50s count
Title: Re: The Big Shark Rig vs a Human Being
Post by: Swami805 on June 22, 2018, 06:05:48 PM
Gotta love tree guys. Next time offer em 50 and get a really mean dog to chase them. Thanks for that
Title: Re: The Big Shark Rig vs a Human Being
Post by: oc1 on June 22, 2018, 07:43:13 PM
I bet you could have stopped him with a lighter rod Mike.  With more flex in the rod the effective length of the lever that wants to pull you over decreases as the rod bends.  As the rod bends it also puts a more steady pressure on the fish so every time the fish gives an inch the rod snatches up the slack. 

If someone has to point the rod at the fish to maintain their balance and keep from being pulled over it is a sign the rod is too long and/or too stiff.  You could even see it happening to the boss a while back in his tuna video.

The tree trimmer would be more difficult to stop if the line was connected at waist level instead of the upper back.  He is pulling with his legs and butt not his back so there would be less leverage trying to pull him over.
-steve
Title: Re: The Big Shark Rig vs a Human Being
Post by: The Great Maudu on June 22, 2018, 07:55:47 PM
Good points Steve. The problem wasn't really the rod though. What out me at a disadvantage in this case was I couldn't properly anchor the butt of the rod. If I had my fighting harness on and the reel clipped in there would have a LOT more pressure applied to the man shark. As it was, I couldn't keep the rod in a steady upright position because the gimbal would dig into my leg. So, round one goes to the man shark.
Title: Re: The Big Shark Rig vs a Human Being
Post by: mo65 on June 22, 2018, 08:17:35 PM
Great stuff guys...I hereby decree this video with the "Fish Slap" award. 8)
Title: Re: The Big Shark Rig vs a Human Being
Post by: Shark Hunter on June 22, 2018, 10:29:44 PM
I did something similar with my Sons Dog a few years ago. I couldn't stop her with a 12/0 locked down.
https://flic.kr/p/28s6HGc
Title: Re: The Big Shark Rig vs a Human Being
Post by: mo65 on June 22, 2018, 10:45:04 PM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on June 22, 2018, 10:29:44 PM
I did something similar with my Sons Dog a few years ago. I couldn't stop her with a 12/0 locked down.

   I wonder if it has something to do with the "hooked" individual being on dry ground. Ya know...on Swamp People they never wrestle a hooked gator on dry ground...they are always in the water when they pull that line.
Title: Re: The Big Shark Rig vs a Human Being
Post by: sdlehr on June 23, 2018, 02:02:47 AM
Quote from: mo65 on June 22, 2018, 10:45:04 PM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on June 22, 2018, 10:29:44 PM
I did something similar with my Sons Dog a few years ago. I couldn't stop her with a 12/0 locked down.

   I wonder if it has something to do with the "hooked" individual being on dry ground. Ya know...on Swamp People they never wrestle a hooked gator on dry ground...they are always in the water when they pull that line.
I have to admit to being surprised, but it makes sense that one (human or dog) gets much better traction on the ground than in the water. I'm sure that's the answer. The ground isn't going to move under your feet like the water will move against fins. Daron was right, you should've put the guy in the pool.
Title: Re: The Big Shark Rig vs a Human Being
Post by: The Great Maudu on June 23, 2018, 02:11:14 AM
The problem was I could not stabilize the rod without the harness. With the harness I could have locked down the drag reared back and then it's just a tug of war. I couldn't get any leverage. I guess that's why you fight big fish with a harness.
Title: Re: The Big Shark Rig vs a Human Being
Post by: Swami805 on June 23, 2018, 02:21:54 AM
If you get a shot at it again and have your harness and plate have the tree guy use his climbing saddle to transfer his weight to his waist area. That harness was fall protection for an ariel lift. Take a $20 and tape it to a tree and make them work for it
Title: Re: The Big Shark Rig vs a Human Being
Post by: philaroman on June 23, 2018, 02:55:57 AM
oh, just duct-tape a long stick w/ a cold beer to his head :o
won't matter what harness either of you has -- he'll spool ya ;D
Title: Re: The Big Shark Rig vs a Human Being
Post by: Rivverrat on June 23, 2018, 03:01:42 AM
This Was A Complete Rip In The Pants.... Had Me Busting Up Out Loud !!

I Truely am among my own kind... Jeff
Title: Re: The Big Shark Rig vs a Human Being
Post by: Lalo13 on June 23, 2018, 03:12:20 AM
Thanks man !! I needed the laugh !!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Big Shark Rig vs a Human Being
Post by: Alto Mare on June 23, 2018, 10:02:28 AM
You should have been able to make it a little harder on that tree guy Mike ;D...good stuff!
Title: Re: The Big Shark Rig vs a Human Being
Post by: CapeFish on June 23, 2018, 10:16:44 AM
Quote from: oc1 on June 22, 2018, 07:43:13 PM
I bet you could have stopped him with a lighter rod Mike.  With more flex in the rod the effective length of the lever that wants to pull you over decreases as the rod bends.  As the rod bends it also puts a more steady pressure on the fish so every time the fish gives an inch the rod snatches up the slack. 

If someone has to point the rod at the fish to maintain their balance and keep from being pulled over it is a sign the rod is too long and/or too stiff.  You could even see it happening to the boss a while back in his tuna video.

The tree trimmer would be more difficult to stop if the line was connected at waist level instead of the upper back.  He is pulling with his legs and butt not his back so there would be less leverage trying to pull him over.
-steve

This is a cool video :-) Oci you have a point, but from he shore and if you get stuck in for a long time, like an hr or two, straight sticking and just letting the fish go against the drag sure gives you a good breather! Some people say you shouldn't do it but I really couldn't be bothered, it works for me and with a casting rod you have limited pressure you can apply compared to boat rod. A longer rod on the shore is also very handy when following the fish to clear obstacles. I am now wondering if my very stiff rods are actually not a curse although they help to cast better.
Title: Re: The Big Shark Rig vs a Human Being
Post by: swill88 on June 23, 2018, 11:44:01 AM
Sounds like a start of a Stephen King story. What if the sharks teamed up and charged.  Close call.
Steve
Title: Re: The Big Shark Rig vs a Human Being
Post by: otghoyt on June 26, 2018, 02:48:10 PM
Just this season, I went from a 660H to a 760HHH and I, personally, believe the 7.5 footer is a more versatile stand-up rig.  On the other hand, I am 6'4" @ 240# and the 7 footer just works better for me.  Different mechanics in there somewhere but I can keep the tip attitude in the zone better with the longer, stiffer rod.

I dunno,

H~



Title: Re: The Big Shark Rig vs a Human Being
Post by: Penn Chronology on July 02, 2018, 05:45:19 AM
This is really funny to me. I know a tackle shop owner in Brazil that tests their big game reels like this all the time in the parking lot behind their store. They even put a video on their Facebook page a couple of years ago showing how they did it. Pretty much the same way you did it. Great video!
Title: Re: The Big Shark Rig vs a Human Being
Post by: Dominick on July 02, 2018, 08:01:53 PM
Hey you can't tell a big shark to hold up.   ;D ;D Dominick
Title: Re: The Big Shark Rig vs a Human Being
Post by: broadway on July 04, 2018, 02:29:10 AM
Thanks for doing that for us.  That was the funniest thing I've seen in a while! Loved how he was a good sport about it, too!
Ohana rules!
Dom