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Title: Honey
Post by: jgp12000 on December 23, 2022, 02:12:40 PM
I always thought Tupelo honey was the best, I recently met a guy at Walmart with 10-25lb bags of sugar in his cart. I had to say "that's a lot of sugar", he said "it's for my bees". I asked him if he made Tupelo and he did, but told me "Sourwood" honey is even better in his opinion. I got his card and haven't got any yet, he is just 15 minutes away. Anyone tried Sourwood?
Title: Re: Honey
Post by: Keta on December 23, 2022, 03:14:08 PM
Bees travel a long way to harvest polen and nectar so unless there are several miles of mono crop honey is mixed.  A high % of store bought honey is adulterated  especialy highly filtered honey.  It is filtered to hide where it comes from. A high % of store bought honey comes from our "good friend" the PRC.
Title: Re: Honey
Post by: philaroman on December 23, 2022, 03:24:07 PM
not an expert...  zero on-line research...  just going by what Dad taught me half a century ago:
feeding bees sugar water pumps up production volume, while downgrading quality -- i.e., DISHONEST!!!
when real honey crystalizes, it's smooth, creamy, small crystals
when "sugar honey" crystalizes, it's grainy, gritty, large crystals
Title: Re: Honey
Post by: Keta on December 23, 2022, 03:30:35 PM
We prefer our honey crystallized.   We feed our bees drivert sugar in the winter but pull it off during nectar flow.
Title: Re: Honey
Post by: jgp12000 on December 23, 2022, 04:54:16 PM
My cuz tolt me Tupelo doesn't crystalize not sure if its a fact, but I do have some pretty old now, maybe 5 years that hasn't.
Title: Re: Honey
Post by: foakes on December 23, 2022, 05:04:30 PM
Lee's Bee's make really good honey!

Best, Fred
Title: Re: Honey
Post by: Keta on December 23, 2022, 05:11:47 PM
Quote from: jgp12000 on December 23, 2022, 04:54:16 PMMy cuz tolt me Tupelo doesn't crystalize not sure if its a fact, but I do have some pretty old now, maybe 5 years that hasn't.

Some nectars crystallize faster than others, I do not know about Tupelo.   Friends of ours live well out of town and their nectar source is pine and buck brush.  The nectar flows are months apart so they have pine and buckbrush honey if they harvest the pine before the buck Brush flow.  Pine honey is tasty.

The first nectar flow where I am is willow, it makes a pale mild homey. Later in the year it is mixed source and much darker, but still tasty.  Dark honey has more anti oxidants. 
Title: Re: Honey
Post by: jgp12000 on December 23, 2022, 05:29:56 PM
A coworker made the Tupelo honey and I know zippo about honey making, but he would put his hives near whatever the source, hence <Tupelo trees> which I never heard until he told me.
Title: Re: Honey
Post by: Keta on December 23, 2022, 05:32:27 PM
Bees forage up to 2 miles from the colony.
Title: Re: Honey
Post by: Gfish on December 23, 2022, 06:22:10 PM
"Sugar!...Oh honey, honey, you are my candy girl, and you got me wantin' you..." Interesting honey stuff here. You never know what you'll learn about when you tune in...
Title: Re: Honey
Post by: philaroman on December 23, 2022, 06:33:04 PM
BTW, "best honey" for what?

normally, I find buckwheat too strong, robust, overpowering
but it's my top choice for pancakes

normally, acacia is too weak, mild, bland for my tastes,
but if I cut open a honeydew that's not sweet, but has good aroma,
then a drizzle of acacia is perfect, because it doesn't overpower
(incidentally, acacia takes forever to crystalize & by the time it does, it's past its prime, IMO)

Title: Re: Honey
Post by: jgp12000 on December 23, 2022, 06:38:53 PM
I like honey in coffee,buttered bisquits,and spun honey on half burnt buttered toast is some good eatin!
Title: Re: Honey
Post by: jgp12000 on December 23, 2022, 06:48:26 PM
This a.m. I had grilled deer sausage links :cf  on a bisquit with cane syrup,make you slap your grandma...
Title: Re: Honey
Post by: philaroman on December 23, 2022, 06:55:58 PM
try buckwheat on anything warm & absorbent, where it melts & spreads out
don't like it in beverages, at all
Title: Re: Honey
Post by: jgp12000 on December 23, 2022, 07:10:44 PM
I will!
Title: Re: Honey
Post by: pointbob on December 23, 2022, 07:24:29 PM
best honey i ever tasted was macadamia honey from hawaii. incredibly dark and rich.
Title: Re: Honey
Post by: oc1 on December 24, 2022, 07:26:48 AM
We have King Palm, Areca Palm and Fishtail Palm honey.  The bees go crazy when they bloom.  I say "we have" but the bees are feral and we seldom find their honey stash.  I've tried capturing swarms and putting them in a hive but it never takes and they leave after a few days.
Title: Re: Honey
Post by: Keta on December 24, 2022, 01:16:08 PM
Quote from: oc1 on December 24, 2022, 07:26:48 AMI've tried capturing swarms and putting them in a hive but it never takes and they leave after a few days.

Most likely you did not get the queen.  You can buy a queen, screen off the entrance and introduce her to the colony and get it going.  Lots of good info, and some bad, on the internet  and Youtube.
Title: Re: Honey
Post by: oc1 on December 27, 2022, 09:22:44 AM
Probably so.  The second time I tried there was a wad of bees that I thought must be clustered around the queen.  But, no go.  We are not allowed to import bees but there is a new local group that hopes to be selling queens and nucs.
Title: Re: Honey
Post by: Keta on December 27, 2022, 03:20:41 PM
Are the islands veroa free?
Title: Re: Honey
Post by: oc1 on January 01, 2023, 06:59:55 AM
No, they're here too.  When it's calm there will sometimes be hundreds of dead bees floating on the surface a mile from shore.  That didn't happen a decade or so ago.