Reel Repair by Alan Tani

Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn International Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: alantani on December 23, 2022, 04:32:47 PM

Title: VISX 16 - just because you can do something...
Post by: alantani on December 23, 2022, 04:32:47 PM
says kyle, "i just bought a new penn visx 16!"

says me, "very nice!"

says kyle, "i want you to set it up for 100 pound."

says me, "um, yeah.  maybe.  um, not really.  it's more of an 80 pound reel."

says kyle, "let's try it anyway."

300 yards of 100 pound jerry brown hollow patriot.

(https://alantani.com/gallery/37/1-231222161329-37527477.jpeg)

as requested, a 100 yard topshot of 100 pound mono.

(https://alantani.com/gallery/37/1-231222161327-375251956.jpeg)

setting the drag to 40 pounds at full gave me a 30 pound drag setting at the number 1 position.  no bueno.

(https://alantani.com/gallery/37/1-231222161324-37523568.jpeg)

out comes the cam.  it was ground down to a 3.5 degree angle.  here is the result.

(https://alantani.com/gallery/37/1-231222161321-375211242.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/37/1-231222161316-375191271.jpeg)

and done!

(https://alantani.com/gallery/37/1-231222161316-375191391.jpeg)

still not a good idea.  just because you can do something, it doesn't mean that you should. 
Title: Re: VISX 16 - just because you can do something...
Post by: Brendan on December 23, 2022, 05:38:23 PM
     I like it.

Tight lines, Brendan.
Title: Re: VISX 16 - just because you can do something...
Post by: Keta on December 23, 2022, 06:13:56 PM
Redlining anything reduces it's life span.  A good friend of mine told me my 16 VISX is a 80# reel and he set mine up that way for me.  I trust my good friend.... :0) 

Title: Re: VISX 16 - just because you can do something...
Post by: foakes on December 23, 2022, 06:28:29 PM
If I wrote 2+2 = 4 —- in yellow chalk on a chalkboard.

Then, right underneath it I wrote 2+2 = 5.

Knowing which is true and which is false —- I wouldn't give the 2+2 = 5, a second of thought —- it is a non-starter.

2+2 = 4 —- is a mathematical certainty based on proven principles and the authority of truth.

When Alan sez something, to me, he is the authority —- and I don't waste any time looking for anything better than his answer.

Wayne just posted where a guy caught a large bonefish on a Compac Spinning reel.  Yes, anything can be accomplished...

However, if we want our equipment to hold up for decades, be capable fishers, and remain virtually wear-free —- the right setup for the reel is key, IMO.

Best, Fred
Title: Re: VISX 16 - just because you can do something...
Post by: Keta on December 23, 2022, 06:57:46 PM
I thought 2+2 before.
Title: Re: VISX 16 - just because you can do something...
Post by: alantani on December 23, 2022, 08:08:14 PM
well, in all fairness to kyle (that really is his name!) the reel should hold up under those pressures.  i do have to admit that i did not know that the reel would achieve those drag pressures.  it was quite a surprise.  as long as the limited line capacity doesn't catch up with him, he should do fine! ;D
Title: Re: VISX 16 - just because you can do something...
Post by: CooldadE on December 23, 2022, 09:39:21 PM
Quote from: alantani on December 23, 2022, 04:32:47 PMsays kyle, "i just bought a new penn visx 16!"

says me, "very nice!"

says kyle, "i want you to set it up for 100 pound."

says me, "um, yeah.  maybe.  um, not really.  it's more of an 80 pound reel."

says kyle, "let's try it anyway."

300 yards of 100 pound jerry brown hollow patriot.

(https://alantani.com/gallery/37/1-231222161329-37527477.jpeg)

as requested, a 100 yard topshot of 100 pound mono.

(https://alantani.com/gallery/37/1-231222161327-375251956.jpeg)

setting the drag to 40 pounds at full gave me a 30 pound drag setting at the number 1 position.  no bueno.

(https://alantani.com/gallery/37/1-231222161324-37523568.jpeg)

out comes the cam.  it was ground down to a 3.5 degree angle.  here is the result.

(https://alantani.com/gallery/37/1-231222161321-375211242.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/37/1-231222161316-375191271.jpeg)

and done!

(https://alantani.com/gallery/37/1-231222161316-375191391.jpeg)

still not a good idea.  just because you can do something, it doesn't mean that you should. 
That's exactly how I want my new VISX16 setup...

Cool
Title: Re: VISX 16 - just because you can do something...
Post by: alantani on December 23, 2022, 11:21:56 PM
Here's a 30 visx. Better this way!
Title: Re: VISX 16 - just because you can do something...
Post by: alantani on December 23, 2022, 11:23:40 PM
700 yards of 100 pound Jerry Brown hollow,  a 25 yard topshot of 100 pound mono, 30 pounds of drag at strike and 50 pounds at full.
Title: Re: VISX 16 - just because you can do something...
Post by: MarkT on December 24, 2022, 03:04:01 AM
The 30 is looking muy bueno. The 16 with 100 yds of mono over 300 yds of spectra is WTF!
Title: Re: VISX 16 - just because you can do something...
Post by: CooldadE on December 24, 2022, 03:32:50 AM
Quote from: MarkT on December 24, 2022, 03:04:01 AMThe 30 is looking muy bueno. The 16 with 100 yds of mono over 300 yds of spectra is WTF!
WTF ? Can you expand on that ?
Title: Re: VISX 16 - just because you can do something...
Post by: Brendan on December 24, 2022, 04:24:34 AM
Love you Fred but lasting decades is a non issue at this point 🤣
Title: Re: VISX 16 - just because you can do something...
Post by: Benni3 on December 24, 2022, 11:52:31 AM
Great job alan,,,, ;) and thank you again for doing my 20,,,,, ;D
Title: Re: VISX 16 - just because you can do something...
Post by: UKChris1 on December 24, 2022, 02:55:38 PM
I think WTF is best interpreted as 'Waiting to fail' in these circumstances  ;)

Title: Re: VISX 16 - just because you can do something...
Post by: Dozer217 on December 27, 2022, 02:09:22 AM
So if I want the same spec's for my VISX 16 fishing either 80-100, would you do it and how do I get it to you?
Title: Re: VISX 16 - just because you can do something...
Post by: Keta on December 27, 2022, 02:12:03 AM
Alan set up my 16 for 80 and my 20 for 100.  I tested the 16 on a 9' shark and it kicked butt.
Title: Re: VISX 16 - just because you can do something...
Post by: alantani on December 27, 2022, 03:20:19 AM
as long as you are ok with the limitations of this reel, i have no problem trying to duplicate this work.  understand that i am grinding the cams by hand.  they may not come out in exactly the same way.  send a pm and i will get you my shipping info. 
Title: Re: VISX 16 - just because you can do something...
Post by: steelfish on December 28, 2022, 02:43:59 AM
Quote from: alantani on December 23, 2022, 04:32:47 PMsays kyle, "i just bought a new penn visx 16!"

says me, "very nice!"

says kyle, "i want you to set it up for 100 pound."

says me, "um, yeah.  maybe.  um, not really.  it's more of an 80 pound reel."

says kyle, "let's try it anyway."

300 yards of 100 pound jerry brown hollow patriot.

still not a good idea.  just because you can do something, it doesn't mean that you should. 

thats the way we do it in Baja  ;D  ;D

a small and strong reel should be prepared for a YT, big gulf grouper, black grouper or big shark, so, you better off running 100# on those small and medium size reels.

I dont know anyone local that is taking care of their reels with the hope they last decades in good shape  ::)  ::)
Title: Re: VISX 16 - just because you can do something...
Post by: MarkT on July 22, 2023, 12:13:39 AM
People commonly use the 16, both Penn VISX and Makaira, for BFT jigging with a 100# top shot. My Mak 16 has 80.
Title: Re: VISX 16 - just because you can do something...
Post by: Gfish on July 22, 2023, 02:24:30 AM
I'd much rather work with 80#, than 100#. But ya godda give the customer what they really want. JMO, you  also should be able to resist saying "I told you so!".