A couple of weeks ago I received a couple of gift boxes jammed full of fishing tackle from Max here on your forum. In it was a box of siwash hooks that I've never seen before. Vintage I assume , The double long shank might have been made to stiffen the hook? Anybody know why?
Unusual by today's standards. I couldn't attach a picture in a pm so I,m posting here.
Dad did lots of garage sales back in 80's and 90's and would come across commercial gear every so often. Those hooks could be very old commercial fishing hooks. Lots of commercial fishermen live around here and call Ballard thier home port.
I sent you some other hooks too that I couldn't figure out how they'd use them. I thought I put all of them in your box, but then found another full box of same hooks.
The hooks with the flattened tip and no eye get snelled on to gangion I believe ?? Old school commercial conventional long line gear.
Cheers:
Todd
Yep 'spade' end hooks are for snelling.
Gary I don't think those are 'siwash' hooks - I always thought siwash hooks were open eyed so they could be crimped onto lures (or whatever) without split rings :-\
Never seen those before - maybe homemade?
Back in the late 60s early 70s I use to make carp fishing hooks out of salmon low water fly hooks. The hooks were too long so they were cut short and a blob of solder added to the cut end. The line was then snelled onto the hook ala spade end. Back then 'Modern Carp Fishing' was just about to take off and boy did it (at least this side of the pond).
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gamakatsu-Open-Eye-Red-Siwash-Hook-6-pack-Trailer-Hook-Fishing-Terminal-Tackle/202604382207?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item2f2c2987ff:m:m_05g8pjntJzvCChPxhhVKA&enc=AQAEAAACQBPxNw%2BVj6nta7CKEs3N0qXvpy5ETo5AggyVtVRss0U0%2FdbMqYorH3r%2B0E%2B3HGzqk6Lt9ktFRG7WwTJXtWnkmECgmjfgDk71Me3UkmWoVhZTlwdujou0peczw%2FeyiDYnIrtHkL7MTmUyelT8PZ72G%2FhsXQLfdcY8ndyePv8v9JQFNny7C2zE7Tv2lWEJhF7d6gaEgFDLOusAJyKI%2FrGqNcZpZ9EVtrb528PQE7gHnRMfIw0%2FhXvgnaoM0iykKOnswZWJYv3Cdt0Q5Sjl6ary3cacQTsGLGodCCiELP63oV1SiHhFvXhtTMlIk0UMx3U4Tkhla8x0Yo6MRISSAX3EENEKD%2B9AAR4nZteOAoYgscr9%2BsJl%2Fg4oTKKDMk5LhuTyrxb%2FsR%2Ba9eih03O%2B9hZj1K5pbO9HMVLnAZtwkiDTTjXyw69v91DZnKCmxXWlmG9%2B6q02Hd4aXW2LMi9D9tTuU42am20e2zvjrs7qCECaeX15RK6Cv5LY4G1VX7w1NTU2NcJ17yu3J07jY8TnkTHqbowqYwLm%2BqmtRGF2sOIz2tN9C4OTd9WiR92x4DDUMov2T40xcWgz7C%2BRLI%2FquvPByEeGkSlXyWRQOr7nCI0j4i15x63vuC1VTtl5K1ulxWr3tIqs7OFf0muySkcW7mgD4dim4CqIAlZuDIug2hU7JwAs4p95qDzYKqJbhm9GdTKUAZKENDtixW3ViXD7Lqqz4usdPZ9FNJZkyjqu023nf0vgF5NMIG40fQq5hnRuvPipYg%3D%3D&checksum=202604382207ed450416a5aa4a1ca2a51f50595b1afc
Quote from: Tiddlerbasher on February 19, 2020, 07:21:33 PM
Yep 'spade' end hooks are for snelling.
Gary I don't think those are 'siwash' hooks - I always thought siwash hooks were open eyed so they could be crimped onto lures (or whatever) without split rings :-\
Never seen those before - maybe homemade?
Back in the late 60s early 70s I use to make carp fishing hooks out of salmon low water fly hooks. The hooks were too long so they were cut short and a blob of solder added to the cut end. The line was then snelled onto the hook ala spade end. Back then 'Modern Carp Fishing' was just about to take off and boy did it (at least this side of the pond).
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gamakatsu-Open-Eye-Red-Siwash-Hook-6-pack-Trailer-Hook-Fishing-Terminal-Tackle/202604382207?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item2f2c2987ff:m:m_05g8pjntJzvCChPxhhVKA&enc=AQAEAAACQBPxNw%2BVj6nta7CKEs3N0qXvpy5ETo5AggyVtVRss0U0%2FdbMqYorH3r%2B0E%2B3HGzqk6Lt9ktFRG7WwTJXtWnkmECgmjfgDk71Me3UkmWoVhZTlwdujou0peczw%2FeyiDYnIrtHkL7MTmUyelT8PZ72G%2FhsXQLfdcY8ndyePv8v9JQFNny7C2zE7Tv2lWEJhF7d6gaEgFDLOusAJyKI%2FrGqNcZpZ9EVtrb528PQE7gHnRMfIw0%2FhXvgnaoM0iykKOnswZWJYv3Cdt0Q5Sjl6ary3cacQTsGLGodCCiELP63oV1SiHhFvXhtTMlIk0UMx3U4Tkhla8x0Yo6MRISSAX3EENEKD%2B9AAR4nZteOAoYgscr9%2BsJl%2Fg4oTKKDMk5LhuTyrxb%2FsR%2Ba9eih03O%2B9hZj1K5pbO9HMVLnAZtwkiDTTjXyw69v91DZnKCmxXWlmG9%2B6q02Hd4aXW2LMi9D9tTuU42am20e2zvjrs7qCECaeX15RK6Cv5LY4G1VX7w1NTU2NcJ17yu3J07jY8TnkTHqbowqYwLm%2BqmtRGF2sOIz2tN9C4OTd9WiR92x4DDUMov2T40xcWgz7C%2BRLI%2FquvPByEeGkSlXyWRQOr7nCI0j4i15x63vuC1VTtl5K1ulxWr3tIqs7OFf0muySkcW7mgD4dim4CqIAlZuDIug2hU7JwAs4p95qDzYKqJbhm9GdTKUAZKENDtixW3ViXD7Lqqz4usdPZ9FNJZkyjqu023nf0vgF5NMIG40fQq5hnRuvPipYg%3D%3D&checksum=202604382207ed450416a5aa4a1ca2a51f50595b1afc
Siwash aren't necessarily open eyed. They come both ways. the bend is what makes it a siwash
The hook is soldered and then plated in my examination. The3 parallel PCs would be very stiff butt there must be a reason for the design. The extra work to do this compared to forming a round eye would not pass many votes in nowadays board meetings ???
Some body will know.
could be:
- keeps once-hooked bait from sliding up the shank, when you want it to flutter of the bend
and/or less likely to rotate when buried inside the bait - component/replacement hook for a lure or some specific rig
My guess is they belong to an old bone type jig/iron, and there was either a nut and bolt or bolt holding it in....Bill
I'm thinking long line hooks, the weight to help keep the hooks down below the main line
I agree with Bill. I have some old spoons where the hooked is attached with a screw.
Quote from: smnaguwa on February 20, 2020, 06:23:22 PM
I agree with Bill. I have some old spoons where the hooked is attached with a screw.
Me too. Dominick