Has anyone every use Isoflex Topasl 32 to lube there reels.
i never have. anyone else?
I haven't, but now I'm curious how well it will do.
Kluber is a German company. They do a good business in the wind turbine industry in Europe. It's generally used as a low temperature grease in high load situations. The product is good quality. IMHO not very versatile.
I would like to tell you about a product I use and represent that I think you will find interesting if that is allowed. This product would also compete very well against the TSI-301 everyone here seems to like so much.
Quote from: Tawakoni Terror on February 26, 2014, 12:34:10 AM
I would like to tell you about a product I use and represent that I think you will find interesting if that is allowed. This product would also compete very well against the TSI-301 everyone here seems to like so much.
Show us what you got!
Thanks. I don't see a way of attaching a document so I just cut and pasted the specs. Hope its not too much.
Ecoseal nanolube
TECHNICAL DATA
PRODUCT DESCRIPTION
This environmentally friendly, nanoscopic, invisible, penetrating coating/lubricant, made with patent pending E3fusion technology, preserves, lubricates and repels moisture and atmospheric contaminates from hard surfaces: gun metal, plastics, fiberglass, polycarbonate, galvanized metal surfaces, copper, brass, stainless steel, aluminum, titanium, high carbon steel, nickel, cobalt and other metal surfaces. Eco seal/lube lubricates, protects, reduces friction, enhances film-strength and anti-wear properties and contains no silicones, PTFEs, oils, waxes or petroleum distillates.
FEATURES/BENEFITS
Eco seal/lube incorporates advance E3 Nano fusion bonded technology to lubricate and penetrate the pores and bond itself into the surface of metal and other solid surfaces through physical absorption of Nano particles into micro and nano fissures of any surface; reducing
friction between moving parts; minimizing wear and build–up of wear related debris.
LUBRICATION
EcoSeal/lube works DRY. Product does not require a liquid carrier to be present for protection and lubrication. EcoSeal/Lube will not separate, become sticky or leave any tacky residue behind. It will not attract dust or dirt particles like petroleum products. In firearms, it will not attract and hold firing residue, dust or dirt particles like petroleum products.
CLEANING
Additives in Eco seal/lube aid in the effective removal of built up dirt, lead, copper, carbon, powder residue or corrosive particles that can buildup and become abrasive to both recoil and gas operating mechanisms of firearms. Fishing gear, industrial manufacturing and material handling equipment, automotive and marine friction points and residential applications such as hinges, glides, slides, pivots and locks all benefit from this dry lubricants' protections.
PRESERVATION
After cleaning, a nano-film of our enhanced preservatives immediately bonds and forms a barrier film on and in the surface that displaces water and provides a corrosion resistant barrier against rust, dirt and atmospheric fouling. It is designed to protection against hydrogen sulfide (H2S), mild mineral acids, carbon dioxide (Co2), saltwater and brackish environments, musky water, chlorine and similar adverse environments and has passed the salt spray corrosion (ASTM B-117) 150 Hours test.
TYPICAL APPLICATIONS
Where ever nano-lubrication or dry lubrication and broad service corrosion protection is required: MEMS manufacturing, close tolerance hydraulics, pneumatics, miniature gearing or any bearing application where traditional petroleum lubrication is undesirable or problematic.
Eco seal/lube is formulated to meet the complete requirement of cleaning, lubricating, and preserving both small and large caliber weapons in virtually all climate conditions. Apply to weapons' metal surface liberally on first application. Allow to penetrate surface on first application approximately 5 to 10 minutes. Wipe excess lubricant from surface to leave a dry surface to the touch. This will also help when it comes to dirt not sticking to dry weapons. As weapons are used and heat up, Nano Lube penetrates even deeper into the pores of the metal. On second cleaning these pores will fill in with additional lubricant and a new protective barrier will be formed making subsequent cleanings much easier and faster.
PHYSICAL PROPERTIES
State- Liquid
Solids (by weight) – NA Ph Range- 6.8 to 7.4
Appearance – Milky liquid
Odor – Slight Sweet Aromatic
Boiling Range – 180°F to 240°F
Vapor Density – same as water
Flash Point – NA
Specific Gravity – 1.0 to 1.05
Solubility in Water – 99% Viscosity – Same as water
Voc Content – Less than 14gam/liter
Nano Drivers Consists of – Metallic zinc, Graphite, Titanium, and Magnesium
Theoretical Coverage – May verge upon the surface Density and Porosity
PROCESSING INFORMATION AND FUNCTIONAL PROPERTIES
Operating Temperature Range – 60°F to 500°F
Application Temperature 35°F to 500°F
Dry film thickness – Not measurable in Nano Meter Scale Do not dilute
RESISTANCES AND REPELLENCY
Water Pass Salt Pass
Ice Pass Chloride Screen Pass
Snow Pass Dust Pass
Frost Pass Dirt Pass
Finger Prints Pass Mud Pass
Carbon Dust Pass Wind Drag Pass
Static Pass UV Rays Pass
Minor Scratches Pass Frictions Pass
Airborne Particles Pass Smoke Pass
Smog Pass Brake dust Pass
Anti-Static Pass Fog Pass
SPECIFICATIONS
Eco seal/lube meets or exceeds most requirements of MIL SPEC MIL-PRF-63460D
Kinematics Viscosity (ASTM D445) -59°F–Pass (Low temp. viability)
Falex Load Carrying Capacity (ASTM D3233) +4500LBS–Pass (bear load/ wear)
Corrosion Test (ASTM-B-117) 150 hr.–Pass (salt water corrosion)
Rust Resistance (ASTM D 665) Test A–Pass; Test B–Pass; Modified Test C–Pass
SUGGESTED PRETREATMENT
For best protection, heavy deposits of grease and grime should be removed before applying.
STORAGE
Store "between" 40°F to 90°F and away from direct sun light. Keep container close when not in use. Do not freeze.
SHELF LIFE
Up to five years when stored as directed.
Thoughts/Questions?
I think you need to send a Sample to our R&D Dept.
That would Be Sal. ;)
I'd love to. Contact info please or PM me.
Quotepenetrate the pores and bond itself into the surface of metal
I always thought that metal didn't have pores.
You mean this company:http://www.klueber.com/ ?
Specifications look very close to TSI321.
Quote from: Shark Hunter on February 26, 2014, 03:11:14 AM
I think you need to send a Sample to our R&D Dept.
That would Be Sal. ;)
Need someone smarted than I am here bud, all I would do is the same as you would, put it in a cleaned reel and see how it goes from there.
Unless I'm reading it wrong, the info is close to TSI. Some field test would be good I guess.
Whats the prices/quantities and where can one get it from?
Quote from: LTM on February 26, 2014, 02:18:57 PM
Whats the prices/quantities and where can one get it from?
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That would be interesting...if we could get a sample, I'm sure we could clean some bearings and give it a go on the boat for the AT fishing trip.
Quote from: Magilla on February 26, 2014, 09:18:03 AM
Specifications look very close to TSI321.
Yes and if I understand the TSI product line...our (1) product replaces the need for two (2) different products TSI301/321 because Eco Seal works very well on all plastics as well.
Quote from: Tawakoni Terror on February 26, 2014, 06:50:18 PM
Quote from: Magilla on February 26, 2014, 09:18:03 AM
Specifications look very close to TSI321.
Yes and if I understand the TSI product line...our (1) product replaces the need for two (2) different products TSI301/321 because Eco Seal works very well on all plastics as well.
TSI301 and TSI321 is essentially one lubricant. The main difference and why we use TSI301 is to remove any further grease and oil residue that we may have missed during cleaning of the bearings. There are no issues if you just use TSI321.
Quote from: Bryan Young on February 26, 2014, 06:57:33 PM
Quote from: Tawakoni Terror on February 26, 2014, 06:50:18 PM
Quote from: Magilla on February 26, 2014, 09:18:03 AM
Specifications look very close to TSI321.
Yes and if I understand the TSI product line...our (1) product replaces the need for two (2) different products TSI301/321 because Eco Seal works very well on all plastics as well.
TSI301 and TSI321 is essentially one lubricant. The main difference and why we use TSI301 is to remove any further grease and oil residue that we may have missed during cleaning of the bearings. There are no issues if you just use TSI321.
Then why the large discrepancy in price between the two if they are the same?
And the answer is yes to getting you samples. You may want to PM me your ship to info.
Quote from: Tawakoni Terror on February 26, 2014, 07:26:35 PM
Quote from: Bryan Young on February 26, 2014, 06:57:33 PM
Quote from: Tawakoni Terror on February 26, 2014, 06:50:18 PM
Quote from: Magilla on February 26, 2014, 09:18:03 AM
Specifications look very close to TSI321.
Yes and if I understand the TSI product line...our (1) product replaces the need for two (2) different products TSI301/321 because Eco Seal works very well on all plastics as well.
TSI301 and TSI321 is essentially one lubricant. The main difference and why we use TSI301 is to remove any further grease and oil residue that we may have missed during cleaning of the bearings. There are no issues if you just use TSI321.
Then why the large discrepancy in price between the two if they are the same?
And the answer is yes to getting you samples. You may want to PM me your ship to info.
The price discrepancy is based on their solvent that allows TSI321 to float in the solvent and not affect the lubrication properties of TSI321.
PM being sent. Thank you.
Quote from: Makule on February 26, 2014, 05:28:03 PM
Quote from: LTM on February 26, 2014, 02:18:57 PM
Whats the prices/quantities and where can one get it from?
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2oz bottle.... $7.00
4oz finger pump bottle....$16.95
1 gallon.... $245.00
Purchasing contact Ted Thies, Owner, Tedlar Labs, email: etthies@msn.com
I have been using the Ecoseal Nanolube on my bearings since the start of this post.
Everything from a 420ss to a 16/0.
My 2oz bottle is almost empty. I need to get some more.
Ok Daron - what's your opinion my friend?
I use it in my own reels and am happy with the results.
I really can't compare it to anything else.
That 14' 700lb tiger shark Mike caught on his 16/0 had this lube in the bearings. Nothing else.
Makes them super smooth.
That's not too cost effective for our reels. A gallon of TSI-321 is expensive enough already.
It could be used on tournament casting reels or special applications.
In the UK a quick google search comes up with an ultra expensive low temp grease - which ain't floating my boat at the moment :-\
I've had this 2 oz bottle for three years.
I don't use it on every reel. Just the ones that that have mint bearings.
Just a drop or two is all it takes.
I've never used TSI or any other reel oils besides Reel X.
I just like it and want another bottle.