In a few days I will have Stainless steel Newell gear sets (main and pinion) for the 200, 300 and 400 series. 304 Stainless 5:1 $35.00
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Dawn
These gears should also fit the Penn 505/506 as well as ProGear 255/251 series as well.
Dawn, please let me know I have an Accurate 99 conversion with Tiburon Frame. Would the SS gears fit this, and or a newell kit 501?
I'm not well versed in gears...yet ;D
I'm not sure about the accurate. Hopefully someone else will know. The Newell 500, no. The 500 & 600 gears may be sometime in the future. Will see if it's requested much.
Thanks
Dawn
Dawn, hope you dont mind.?
I posted this on BD as soon as I saw this post!!!!
there is a big market for Newell parts there....
You could become the "Newell Lady"!!!
Great Frank, appreciate it.
Quote from: ScupperSkipper on June 06, 2013, 03:43:02 PM
Dawn, please let me know I have an Accurate 99 conversion with Tiburon Frame. Would the SS gears fit this, and or a newell kit 501?
As Bryan said, they should fit both. Hopefully she can keep them around long enough for me to try out. They should also work on the 112H.
Ron
You guys are gonna make me buy some more Newell's and penn's just to try all the gears out ;D ;D
Everybody needs a closet full of Newells and a few Penns too I guess.
I only have a 1/2 closet full now. I guess I need more 5-1 Gear Sets.
You're right, most of us do have closets full of Penns and very few Newells I guess. ;D ;D;D BTW Your Newells are Penns. ;)
Looks like the demand is High!!!!
My PM inbox was full today at Bloody Decks with questions on the sets!!!
So I posted it in Reels also. Was just in classified rods/reels....
No vacation this year Dawn!!!! LOL ;D
This may be year that Dawn can take a great 2 week vacation ;D
Vacation? Who's got time for that? ;D
sorry, no vacation for dawn. she has to stay in business or we're all screwed! ;D
Photos added to the very first post.
I'm not sure if I saw this before, but I thought someone said these will fit a jigmaster 500. Yes? No?
Quote from: Bucktail on June 14, 2013, 05:49:09 PM
I'm not sure if I saw this before, but I thought someone said these will fit a jigmaster 500. Yes? No?
By looking at the main gear, I don't think it will fit in JM 500 or 112H. It might work with JM 505. Then again, I could be wrong.
I would like to know the answer as well? States above fits a 505 but a 505 doesn't fit a 500 nor a 112h I believe?
I agree with alan(BP)' from the photo it looks like it will only fit the 505/501. I ordered a set today. When I get them in I'll post up the photos side by side with a JM 500 , 505 and these.
Bob
505 pinion doesn't fit the 500/501 . You can use 500 gears in the 505 if you wanted to, I personally think the pinion is a little too loose on the shaft, but heard of some using it.
Dawn- will you be selling any of these in kits? With Yoke and drag-washers?
So the spool slot on the 505 pinion is narrower than the end of the 500 spool?
Ron
Correct! plus the pinion itself on the 505 is too narrow for the 500 spool shaft.
Sal
What some of the guys up here are doing is using the 505 gear set into Newell's. The only adjustment is to open the notch in the Pinion Gear to fit the spool.
Mike
That might be so Mike, I just don't remember for sure and I don't have one to test :-\. I know that it had to be customized to fit. By the way, I was saying the 500 jigmaster. Is the spool shaft on those newell the same as the 500 jigmaster?
So could you not just run a 505 spool in the 500? I don't know much about these reels.
It also seems to me that you could mill the spool of a 112h, not sure what you'd do about that bearing ring though. Anyone ever mill a 112h sideplate for a bearing cup?
Ron
Joel
I plan on making up a kit.
Dawn
I have a part # 3-500S, the Newell gear does not fit over the shaft on this part, if this helps any.
Quote from: Alto Mare on June 15, 2013, 03:18:54 AM
That might be so Mike, I just don't remember for sure and I don't have one to test :-\. I know that it had to be customized to fit. By the way, I was saying the 500 jigmaster. Is the spool shaft on those newell the same as the 500 jigmaster?
I don't think so
Dawn,
3-500S is a fine thread bridge for a Jigmaster. The 500S does use regular 500 gears though.
Ron
Dawn asked me to check these gears out, these will fit the Newell, the Jigmaster 505 and Jigmaster 500/501, that I'm showing here.
The Jigmaster 500 will need a little customizing to make them work.
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While I was at it, I also decided to test Bryan's 5+1 drag kit.
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At holding I got 24lb, there was a little more, but I didn't want to push it all the way
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I pulled the line out and run, as Bryan suggested, the scale registered about the same and the line peeled off smoothly
I also did some retrieving tests by just turning the handle while pulling a wagon with some weight.
With the star almost all the way tight, the scale registered 15lb. Ones it got rolling, the drag was nice and smooth.
If any of you would like to install these gears in the Jigmaster 500, you'll need to use the stock tension spring from Penn.
If you would like to use the Belleville instead, you'll need to shave the plate just a little, I used a Belleville similar to the one that came with Bryan's kit, mine is a little smaller in diameter.
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You will also need to drill the bottom of the pinion so it will fit over the right side bushing, don't worry about doing so, most of the stress on the pinions is at the notched area. Dawn could actually ask the machinist to enlarge the bottom of the pinion, other reels mentioned won't be affected by it.
The Newell gear has a built in washer at the bottom, if you're using these in a Jigmaster, you will need a shorter spacer sleeve
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Here is a shot of the drilled pinion
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Dawn, to me the gears did great and everything looked good afterwards.
Bryan, your washers did really good, I like them. The washer under the main gear was undamaged, maybe related to that built in washer under the gear :-\
I hope this is of some help.
Sal
Good info there. Thanks Sal. 8)
Sal
What is the gear ratio on these new gears?
Great report Sal, I'm liking the drag stack. Thanks for keeping us updated.
Bob
These are the same gears that Dawn is showing on the first picture by the first page, 5:1 ratio.
I really like that reinforced Stainless ring on the pinion, do all Newell's have those? It's twice as tall as Penn's.
Nice craftsmanship on the gears, the only thing that I've noticed was that the pinion could have used a little more cleaning on the inner side, I used a little ss wool and they are nice now.
I've already mentioned this to Dawn.
Another thing I want to mention is that these gears are made perfectly, the pinion engages on the Jigmasters spool shaft without any movement, the 505 has very little movement.
The ID on the main gear is also cut perfectly, the gear is just a little loose on the brass sleeve and I mean very little.
On the stainless steel sleeve it fits nice and snug.
I did have an issue with one of the stainless steel sleeve, the gear wouldn't fit. after taking some measurements I've noticed that Alan's Stainless sleeve are not the same.
Alan, you might want to check on those.
Again, these gears are cut perfectly, maybe that's why :-\, I would still check the gear sleeve that you have though.
The ring on the pinion varies in Newells and I don't know why. The wider ring ones seem to work the best. I say this because on a couple of very well used Newells that I have worked on have a little tic tic noise when in free spool and it comes from the pinion and it has always been one with the narrow ring. I have replaced them with the wider ring pinion and it goes away.
Thank you Sal, great report.
Black Pearl will have the stainless Jigmaster / Penn 500 gears soon, so no modifying will be needed for those.
Gear ratio turns out to be 4.8:1 on these Newell gears.
Dawn
So will this set from Dawn work in 505/506 and Pro-Gear 251 w/o any modifications needed?
Quote from: Joel.B on July 22, 2013, 06:11:51 PM
So will this set from Dawn work in 505/506 and Pro-Gear 251 w/o any modifications needed?
I believe so since the PG 255/251 uses the same size gear sets as the 505/506.
Sal,
Thanks for the test and update. The under gear drag washer, which one did I provide you? The CF or the Delrin/Teflon one or both? or did you use an HT-100 CF drag washer? Please let me know.
Whoa, 24#, that's great. makes it perfect for a 60# braid reel or even 80# backing with 40# topshot.
Bryan
Quote from: Dawn on July 22, 2013, 05:06:16 PM
Thank you Sal, great report.
Black Pearl will have the stainless Jigmaster / Penn 500 gears soon, so no modifying will be needed for those.
Gear ratio turns out to be 4.8:1 on these Newell gears.
Dawn
Not a problem Dawn, I'm always available for you ;D.
Yes, you're right about Alan C gears.
Guys it doesn't make sense for us to customize these gears for the Jigmaster 500, we should wait for Black Pearl's gears.
I believe those are 5:1 ratio, either way they shouldn't have a much noticeable difference.
Sal
Quote from: Bryan Young on July 22, 2013, 06:35:21 PM
Sal,
Thanks for the test and update. The under gear drag washer, which one did I provide you? The CF or the Delrin/Teflon one or both? or did you use an HT-100 CF drag washer? Please let me know.
Whoa, 24#, that's great. makes it perfect for a 60# braid reel or even 80# backing with 40# topshot.
Bryan
You sent both Bryan. The washer that I used was the carbon fiber washer.
Nice upgrade Bryan, I'm sure those will fly off the shelf. Now go make me some for the Squidder.
Sal
Quote from: Alto Mare on July 22, 2013, 09:34:17 PM
Quote from: Bryan Young on July 22, 2013, 06:35:21 PM
Sal,
Thanks for the test and update. The under gear drag washer, which one did I provide you? The CF or the Delrin/Teflon one or both? or did you use an HT-100 CF drag washer? Please let me know.
Whoa, 24#, that's great. makes it perfect for a 60# braid reel or even 80# backing with 40# topshot.
Bryan
You sent both Bryan. The washer that I used was the carbon fiber washer.
Nice upgrade Bryan, I'm sure those will fly off the shelf. Now go make me some for the Squidder.
Sal
Hi Sal,
I've got those designed. I just need a squidder, long beach live bait, and other reels that use that washer configuration so that I can determine the thickness of the washers. Then I have to wait for the funds...
Bryan
Bryan
Have you given any thought to how this drag stack will perform in the Newell old 4 stack drags? I think I will do my test in one of those. Any thoughts or concerns?
The 4 stack will perform in the same manner. The difference is the under drag washer sits on a stainless steel washer instead of the ratchet of the gear sleeve. That is how we discovered to use a cf washer instead if a bushing in this location. The 4 stack drag system was really more of a marketing thing than anything, I believe.
The old 4 stack may prove even stronger without the worry of the sprocket cutting into the bottom CF that is shielded with the factory washer. I will find out soon. 4.8 to 1 also gives just a tiny bit extra leverage on the handle than the 5 to 1 but probably hard to measure.
I personally like the design better that way you can use a larger undergear drag washer that will not get damaged by the rachet.
are these for sale now?
Joel if you asking about the gear, yes.
Dawn
Dawn
I just opened the package with the gear and noticed that the gear is not cut very deep. When I put the washers in dry I have two left over above the surface.
Dwight
Found the problem. The metal washers are too thick. I just opened Bryan's package and the washers fit as they should and his metal washers are a lot thinner than the ones you sent me.
Quote from: Newell Nut on July 25, 2013, 11:53:30 PM
Dawn
I just opened the package with the gear and noticed that the gear is not cut very deep. When I put the washers in dry I have two left over above the surface.
Dwight
WIll my standard Jigmaster drags work in these?
Joel, yes. Newell Nut is working on a 5 drag stack. 3 drag stack no problems.
Okee-dokee
I guess I better try a set
Bryan
Wish I had time to have put your set in a reel last night. I smoked some drags today with big AJs and cobias and snapper. It was a great day to test equipment. I caught all of my fish with a G338 that I converted to a 332 and a 322 with 30 lb Momoi Diamond. The rods were Calstar 800M and 700L and they worked great.
Dwight
Quote from: Joel.B on July 26, 2013, 03:54:30 PM
Okee-dokee
I guess I better try a set
Joel, I though you have a set of my drags kit?
I got a chance to get my first test done today. I used the new gears in a Newell 332 and Bryan's 5 stack drags. I did a straight pull with my scale hooked to my vise and got 24 lb as Sal did. There was some left on the star so I decided to push it. Tightened the star some more and then ran out of the garage to end of the driveway. Still only 24 lb but still very smooth.
The gears are a problem. They seem to work okay but have a bad roaring noise. I guess the pinion and gear just don't mesh well. There is not much resistance to turning the handle but that roar can't be good. Afraid to fish with it like that so I will disassemble and put the drags in the Newell gears and test again for drag rating.
Dwight
Quote from: Newell Nut on July 27, 2013, 10:48:13 PM
I got a chance to get my first test done today. I used the new gears in a Newell 332 and Bryan's 5 stack drags. I did a straight pull with my scale hooked to my vise and got 24 lb as Sal did. There was some left on the star so I decided to push it. Tightened the star some more and then ran out of the garage to end of the driveway. Still only 24 lb but still very smooth.
The gears are a problem. They seem to work okay but have a bad roaring noise. I guess the pinion and gear just don't mesh well. There is not much resistance to turning the handle but that roar can't be good. Afraid to fish with it like that so I will disassemble and put the drags in the Newell gears and test again for drag rating.
Dwight
Please note that if the meshing is not too good between the main and pinion gears, it will have a roaring noise. Eventually, both gears will mesh better, and the noise will go away after period of time.
I don't think it will have any problem to fish with those gears.
Thanks for the encouragement. I just put the gear and pinion into my brass tumbler and will leave them in there for a couple hours of polishing and try again in the morning.
Quote from: Newell Nut on July 28, 2013, 12:12:57 AM
Thanks for the encouragement. I just put the gear and pinion into my brass tumbler and will leave them in there for a couple hours of polishing and try again in the morning.
One more thing, you might want to check out if those teeth on the main and pinion when they are under stress. If those teeth are thin, they might shred. It happened to Accurate, and it was the reason Accurate stop making them.
Just double checking them.....
mine were nice and quiet.
I have successfully completed my test. Removed the parts from the tumbler and then took a small bore brush and some flitz polish and polished the pinion ID. Put everything back together and no noise. I decided to simulate a hard day of fishing. Tightened the drag to 21 lb and ran to the end of the driveway 20 times and decided to stop after the handle nut got really hot. Waited 5 minutes and tightened the star hard and decided to see what the parts could take. One more dash out of the garage and the drag chattered a bit and then the line snapped. I walked back to the scale and was amazed to see 33 lb on the scale. Set the rod down to let everything cool down since the handle even got hot.
After cooling I disassembled everything and found everything in very good condition. The under gear CF was just as it was when I first put it in. Using a 10x magnifier I could see the machining marks on the edge of the gear teeth starting to wear where contacting the pinion. These are really fine machining marks so I see no worry and will check them in a year or so. Cleaned the blackened Cals off the parts and reassembled and now ready to fish with confidence.
While the reel was cooling I did some line break test. Momoi 30 diamond is .59mm and momoi hi catch 40 is .60mm. The Momoi 30 diamond broke repeatedly at 40 lb. The 40 hi catch broke repeatedly at 32 lb.
Good job by everyone involved with the new gears and the 5 stack drags.
Dwight
Great write up and test Dwight. I agree with your findings on the mono. I only use the Momoi diamond. Excellent line IMO. Thanks for the time and report.
Bob
Bob
This is the same length of line that got fished really hard Friday and then all the dry runs through the guides really impressed me today. The line itself did not break. I had the 40 Yo Zuri Flurocarbon tied on with back to back uni knots from yesterday and had it tied to the scale. The knot finally gave up after all of that stress. You can guess what my go to set up will continue to be.
On my 500 series reels I use the 40 diamond and 60 for a leader unless the snappers are too picky and then I go 40-40.
Quote from: Bryan Young on July 26, 2013, 09:44:30 PM
Quote from: Joel.B on July 26, 2013, 03:54:30 PM
Okee-dokee
I guess I better try a set
Joel, I though you have a set of my drags kit?
I do, but I am putting those in a 501 that I plan on pushing to it's limits. These Newell gears will go in a 506 for my friend
Thanks Dwight for the test. 33#? Wow, that's a lot of drag. I can see why there would be a little chatter. There are not too many reels and drag systems designed and capable to be smooth at such high resistance. I would say that those are more lever drag reels as they have brake systems that are most similar to a car.
Again a great job on your part. I found the limit for you but I would not try to fish there and the washers with tabs could shear off too. The 24 area was really smooth and that is why I gave you another order.
I am looking forward to the 5 stack 500 series and I will need 3 sets for my 540 3.2s. They should be really smooth at 30 to 35 and max at around 40.
I believe you could make the washers with the tabs about .005 thicker for safety and not have a problem with spacing. (just a thought)
Pulled in a couple 30 plus pound AJs with the new gears and 5 stack drags in my 338 and all performed perfectly.
Nice Dwight.
As you probably already know, I don't have any Newell reels. I have worked on some, but don't remember which ones. Is the 338 close in size to the Penn 500? Also, how wide is the spool. I'm thinking that I should own at least one ;D .
Sal
Basically the same as a 500. The 338 spool width is 2 3/8. The 332 is 2 1/16. If case you have not seen the post on numbering, the 338 represents 380 yds of 30 mono and the 332 is 320 yds of 30 mono.
When a Tiburon frame is added that become really robust reels.
Just another update on a great day with Dawn's gears and Byran's 5 stack drags. Caught 3 8 lb mangrove snapper and two 30 lb red snappers today with the Newell 332 with both products that I previously tested in the garage.
Smooth as silk today and plenty of meat for the freezer. Great job on the new parts.
Nice Dwight, thanks for the update.
Wouldn't mind having one of those red snappers right about now.
Sal
The season has been closed for 5 years so we have to vent and throw back. The numbers are rapidly increasing and the sizes are really nice. The Feds are giving us Aug 23, 24 and 25 and no size limit this year but they are usually 20 to 40 lb. They gave us 2 weekends last September.
I am booked already for a trip on the 25th for a 12 hr trip. I am doing a commercial Mangrove Snapper trip Friday and that is one you should do with me sometime for Real REEL fun.
Dwight
I wish I could join you Dwight :(, my boat hasn't hit the water yet this year :-\.
Catch and release is also fun, I usually do a little of that on the northern Chesapeake with Stripers, in early spring.
Sal
Quote from: Newell Nut on August 14, 2013, 08:21:19 AM
Sal
The season has been closed for 5 years so we have to vent and throw back. The numbers are rapidly increasing and the sizes are really nice. The Feds are giving us Aug 23, 24 and 25 and no size limit this year but they are usually 20 to 40 lb. They gave us 2 weekends last September.
I am booked already for a trip on the 25th for a 12 hr trip. I am doing a commercial Mangrove Snapper trip Friday and that is one you should do with me sometime for Real REEL fun.
Dwight
Where are you fishing? I'm in central Florida. I'm looking at the opening of Gulf red snapper in October as my next shot. I would have to drive 7+ hours to near Destin to fish with my friends there.
I fish out of Ponce Inlet. Red Snappers are quite a nuisance when you can't keep them and they eat like lions. I went Friday and couldn't keep the reds off my hook long enough to catch the mangroves that I was fishing for. Lot of fun though.
I know Ponce; I live in Volusia county.
Quote from: Newell Nut on August 14, 2013, 08:21:19 AM
Sal
The season has been closed for 5 years so we have to vent and throw back. The numbers are rapidly increasing and the sizes are really nice. The Feds are giving us Aug 23, 24 and 25 and no size limit this year but they are usually 20 to 40 lb. They gave us 2 weekends last September.
I am booked already for a trip on the 25th for a 12 hr trip. I am doing a commercial Mangrove Snapper trip Friday and that is one you should do with me sometime for Real REEL fun.
Dwight
I plan on going Thursday night or Friday night .mango in the dark snappers in the sun.im right up the road from u in Saint Augustine. Would love to come down and fish the port sometime ;D
You will have sore arms after the night trip. The night trips are a lot of fun for Mangos.
will these work in my 505? if so r they Stronger
Yes and much stronger.
Ron
how do i get some ???
These Newell gears do NOT work in the 505.
Dawn
Dawn, when you sent the gears to me I tested them In a brand new 505 and they were fine :-\. I can't double check now because I ground the top of the main gear a little, they are now in my 112H and doing great.
The only thing I've noticed is that the gears are rough at first, but do get smoother as you use them.
Quote from: Dawn on August 28, 2013, 12:03:58 AM
These Newell gears do NOT work in the 505.
Dawn
Hi Dawn,
Would you please send me a set and charge it to my account.
I want to check the fitment in ProGear's 255/251 and ProGear's Pacifica 2000, and against my drag kit.
Thank you.
Bryan
Okay Bryan, will do.
Sal, hmmm...someone else tried the 505 and had a lot of trouble...I guess we will stay tuned on the 505 then.
Dawn
i want some if they work in the 505
Bryan have you cheeked to see if the gears work in the 505 ???
hello ;D
Quote from: broschro on August 31, 2013, 01:23:14 AM
i want some if they work in the 505
Did you mean PENN JigMaster 505?
Sorry folks. My grandmother passed away and trying to get things in order. I'm flying out to Hawaii this morning for the funeral and burial services.
Quote from: Bryan Young on September 12, 2013, 01:05:40 PM
Sorry folks. My grandmother passed away and trying to get things in order. I'm flying out to Hawaii this morning for the funeral and burial services.
Bryan so very sorry to hear. Have a safe trip and god bless.
Bryan, I'm so sorry to hear of your loss. Please accept my sympathy.
any of these left ???
These have worked not worked out, sorry for the premature hype :'(
Stay tuned with Alan Chui
Dawn
Sorry for your loss Bryan.
William
Quote from: Dawn on October 04, 2013, 04:48:53 PM
These have worked not worked out, sorry for the premature hype :'(
Stay tuned with Alan Chui
Dawn
if Sal says they work I want a set ;D
Jamie
I have a set right down the road from you. I took that raised surface off already so that is not a worry and they are just sitting on a shelf waiting for you.
Dwight
Dawn, I support your decision. Now we need a rush on Alan Chui's Black Pearl gears please.
Alan has contacted me for a reel to borrow to pattern from but he said it would be around Thanksgiving before he gets started. Who wants to vote for a gear ratio? I like the 3.6 or possibly a 4 for bottom fishing since Newell flooded the market with 5 speeds which are tough on the bottom.
We are going to start on the Newell 440 3.6 for a pattern.
Quote from: Newell Nut on October 10, 2013, 04:53:24 PM
Jamie
I have a set right down the road from you. I took that raised surface off already so that is not a worry and they are just sitting on a shelf waiting for you.
Dwight
thanks Dwight now I just need to get down there. ;D
I'd like a few sets of slower gear ratios as well.
I talked with Gregg Chow (did warranty work for Newell) a while back and he said Newell went to the 3.6 because the 4 to 1 they made in the earlier P series was a very bad gear and that is when the number was like P 344M. The M was a 4 to 1.
Gregg said he never had a problem with the 3.6s so my vote is for a 3.6.
4 to 1 or lower would be nice. Bryan, why don't you start a poll and see how many are interested.
I don't want to overstep into Dawn and Alan's arena. it takes a lot of time and capital an do not want to impose on them. If they see the want, then it becomes their business decision to do so.
No Bryan, I meant post on their behalf and letting Alan bring them to us.
I respect Alan and Dawn, I would never do anything that wouldn't sit right with them.
Sal
I just realized that Alan knows how to do this on his own, he won't need anyone to help posting a poll. The only thing, he might not want to do this yet.
Did u test any gears getting ;D
Didn't get the gears yet, my buddy shipped them using turtle express ;D. Can't blame him though, he doesn't charge for shipping and if you take in consideration how many he ships, its a nice chunk of change.
Can anyone tell me what the final consensus was on the use of these gears in a Penn 505HS?I', already waiting on some of alans gears for my Jm 500's.Sal,did you have to do any modifications when you used these gears in a JM 505.I plan on going with bryans 5 stack too.It looks like you used the 5 stack kit for the JM 500 if i'm not mistaken.Wouldn't there be fitment problems using Alans gear set for the JM 500 due to the differences in the sizes of the spool shafts.Any info will be greatly appreciated.Thanks in advance!!!! 8)
No modifications needed with Black Pearls gears, those will work just fine in the 505 and 500.
Here is some more information:
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=8592.0
Thanks Sal.I'll just wait for Alans gears.I'm not good at waiting though. :D
I'm just a bit late ;) to this party, but are Newell 3.6:1 (or similar) gears available for the 200 series?
No they're not. Only 5:1 gears are being produced. You might be able to use Penn 500/501 gears in a pinch. I haven't tried them on the Newells yet to see if any modifications are necessary.
I believe it's the Penn 506 gears are the correct ones because they are 5-1. Only problem is the main gear is Brass, I'm not sure of the pinion gear though.
Mike
Maybe not being produced at the moment but I have P235 3.6 in my desk. I am hoping Alan Chui solves all the penn gear issues and gets started on the Newell gears next. 3.6 gears are at the top of my list
NN
You got my last set of 3.6-1 gears
Being used on every trip in my 440.
NN
You could send me a Fillet
Mike
I would if FedEx was not so expensive. Hope your boat gets out soon. With the current forecast Tuesday is iffy for us and Thur looks promising. All that I can do is just lift weights to prepare for the next trip when it happens.
Bummer. Sounds like a common issue. Has anyone actually used Penn Main Gears and Pinions to lower the Newell gear ratios?
The old Penns were 3.3:1 if I remember correctly, 500 series were 4.25 maybe?...and I have one or two 140s/500s/501s/etc. I could pull from...
Quote from: Wildman on April 20, 2014, 09:45:44 PM
Bummer. Sounds like a common issue. Has anyone actually used Penn Main Gears and Pinions to lower the Newell gear ratios?
The old Penns were 3.3:1 if I remember correctly, 500 series were 4.25 maybe?...and I have one or two 140s/500s/501s/etc. I could pull from...
Yes it can be done. I just swapped out some 5:1 p338-F gears for penn 4:1 steel gears. Didn't seem to have any issue.
Do you still have any more sets for sell?
I install Penn gears all the time for Newell customers...Never had an issue.
Penn part #'s
5-500 main gear
13-500 pinion gear
4.0:1 ratio
GKFISH
I believe you can also use Penn's 505/506 gears as well.
Dawn,
Shure could use a set of 4.6 gears for a 500 series, and a set of 3.2s for the 600 series
Thanks, Speedwagon2
We have to see what Alan at Black Pearl comes up with.
Dawn
Has anyone heard from Frank "Nessie Hunter" it's been awhile since he posted. Dominick
He's out riding his Harley...that would be my guess.