I'm doing my best to amass a collection of the big surf reels from the golden years, and I managed to get a really good deal on this one off the big auction site today. I've used Penn reels all through my childhood, but this will be the first one that I've actually owned. I defer to the more experienced reel mechanics here and am asking what in particular I should pay attention to with my tear down and cleaning when she arrives. An advice is appreciated, as well. Man am I stoked!
Make sure you clean and lube the pinion bearing . The last 710 I did was stiff , the grease in the bearing was all dried out . Also check the little bumper under the bail arm cam . They brake off or flatten out over time. I think Scotts still sells the kit to eliminate the bail arm
Green , actually a blue-green metalic, side plate with emblem is the 2nd edition of the 704. The first one's had a flat aluminum side plate with two shoushes green & blue.
Parts same as the " Z's ".
dude you didn't tell me greenie. sweet. some have said the Penn green to be the most aesthetic reel color ever. I don't disagree...like a seafoam mist Ford fairlane.
Thank you, gentleman!
Yeah, Thor, I can't believe how lucky I got with this one. I can't wait to get her in and get her fighting ready. I don't know anything about these reels, so I have alot to learn. I've heard that they're tanks, though. I also agree that the green is an amazing color for a reel. The colors on an Ocean City 300 might beat it out just alittle bit for me, but only by a smidge.
Congrats on your first greenie! Aesthetically, I actually prefer the black and gold Z's but none the less they are very nice reels.
Quote from: FlipFlopRepairShoppe on March 31, 2019, 09:40:40 PM
what in particular I should pay attention to
They're frustrating for the reel mechanic because there is not much to go wrong. Better for fishing than tinkering.
-steve
Quote from: oc1 on April 01, 2019, 07:29:34 AM
Quote from: FlipFlopRepairShoppe on March 31, 2019, 09:40:40 PM
what in particular I should pay attention to
They're frustrating for the reel mechanic because there is not much to go wrong. Better for fishing than tinkering.
-steve
You hit the nail on the head with that one. Almost indestructible.
These are beautiful things to hear. I love tinkering with things, but I also love having things that I know that I can push hard without having to worry about fiddling with to make run correctly.
Make sure you keep the handle knob well oiled, Penn reel, Breakfree CLP, Lucas, or any reel oil. They freeze up and the silver stock handles are unotainium.
Any good reel grease like Penn's present blue grease or marine grease will work. Muscle grease is another good grease. It was used by Penn. The original green's Spinfisher Lube was a moly lube lube sold in a Penn tube. Auto supply stores carry it as moly lube for brake calipers.
You do not need to pack the gear housing full of grease. Use just enough to cover the gear teeth & the face of the main gear for the oscillator arm. Breakfree works on the ball bearing. Do not forget the gear shaft where it goes tru the gear housing and the anti reverse mechanism behind the main gear. Oil the ends of the bail wire too. Just a drop or two wii do.
Keep in serviced and it will last a long time. I also would replace both bail springs and the rubber rotor brake part 21b-704 (50 plus years it has to be deteriorated).
You won't need much on these old 700, 704, and 706 greenies, Josh —
If ever needed, there is a small kit of (10) parts that I put together many years ago for Surf Fishermen who use these solid old Spinfishers in the salt.
These are the commonly replaced tune-up parts. Some of the parts are no longer available through typical sources, or Penn. It I have around 35 kits left from the original 100 I put together years ago.
They are offered to members for $10 per kit.
Best,
Fred
Fred, I need kit. At least i think i do. i just remembered i have a coffee can special 700 obtained a few years back in an estate deal...at least 20 reels i still haven't looked into yet, including a bagged Mitchell 488 (a favorite), some SS's, a Calcutta 700S, several Quicks and other Z's. I am sending you something else and i will stick $15 in the box to cover shipping. work for you?
Sure, that is fine, John —
It is already packed, and addressed — and I will drop it off at the Post Office down the hill tomorrow.
Best,
Fred
Enjoy your reel! And that's a great deal on Fred's kit. 8)
actually it's gonna cost $5910. I'm gonna have to fly the Oakes' out here to install it. I'd rather tackle a bear than a bail mechanism. I can eat the bear afterward. Damn coffee grinders. I'm with Alan on this one....
Well, the seller on the big auction site just backed out of the sale after I already paid him, so looks like I don't have a new Penn after all.....
Just wow.
Quote from: FlipFlopRepairShoppe on April 02, 2019, 03:38:16 AM
Well, the seller on the big auction site just backed out of the sale after I already paid him, so looks like I don't have a new Penn after all.....
Just wow.
This isn't the first time this has happened on here. A while back somebody else had high hopes on a great deal on a Penn spinner but the seller backed out. ???
There will be plenty more on the Bay, or elsewhere, Josh —
Don't lose any sleep over it — patience pays off, as does being calm and 😎 cool...
When the time is right, you will find the right reels — at the right price, in decent condition...
Many times in Life — we are protected and looked after — without ever realizing it.
Just best to move on...
Best,
Fred
Sorry to hear about your misfortune, FlipFlop, I'm sure another one will pop up soon, good luck!
Fred, can I get a kit for my newly acquired original 704? Here's a pic of the new beauty. Thank you!
Will do, Darin —
Best,
Fred
I agree with you Fred, the sting passes. As soon as my money is refunded I'm going after another one.
light him up on feedback.
Darin you shoulnt need a new kit...that reel looks new!!! wow.
Report it to Ebay (866) 540-3229
Quote from: thorhammer on April 03, 2019, 11:15:17 AM
light him up on feedback.
Darin you shoulnt need a new kit...that reel looks new!!! wow.
True it's barely used, but I plan on using it and want the kit for the future ;D
Thanks 1Bad. I've got a friend of mine who's a power seller that's working on it for me. In the meantime I scored a couple of other reels to ease the frustration, lol. A Langley 870 Spinator and a Heddon 270r.
Well, I stuck to my guns and wound up winning this one. I'd never seen the big auction site get involved in the way they did on this one, and I wound up with my reel!
Got in yesterday, and I waited a day before opening the package up with rubber gloves and hosed the reel down thoroughly. I've heard of people doing some nasty stuff to packages, so I'm going to douse the reel in cleaners before I touch her with bare hands. Even with that being said, I'm still stoked!
I haven't opened her up or even touched her bare handed but I cranked the handle in both anti-reverse and free spool and she feels STRONG. No snags, and the anti reverse dog is LOUD. Not a bad thing, I enjoy that kind of clickety clack feedback on vintage stuff. Half the fun, actually.
Here she is!
Good for you! Even if it does need some help at least parts are obtainable.
QuoteI waited a day before opening the package up with rubber gloves and hosed the reel down thoroughly. I've heard of people doing some nasty stuff to packages, so I'm going to douse the reel in cleaners before I touch her with bare hands.
Interesting safeguard. ??? With close to 1000 eBay purchases I've never once thought of that as being a concern and it's never even crossed my mind. I don't think I'll start now, either. If I thought that might be an I would quit buying online. :)
99.9% of packages I give no second thoughts to opening. If it's a normal transaction, hell I'll tear it open with my teeth and not worry about it. But with how mad this person was, there was no telling if they'd done something juvenile. Years ago, in West Palm, I had a friend who fought it out with a bad seller and he got his item in the mail covered in a foul smelling substance I won't name. Angry people have been known to do stupid things.
Fred
If you still have any more of those kits, I am interested.
I just purchased a 704 Greenie that I hope to fish in the near future.
I couldn't pass it up for the price. It's a tank.
Got plenty, Steve —
No issues.
Won't be back until late this week, or early next week.
We have been out exploring the Southwest around Western New Mexico, Eastern Arizona, and Southern Utah.
All on Navajo Nation land — Chaco Canyon, Monument Valley, Shiprock area, Canyon DeChelly.
Not sure how the weather will affect our return trip. The storm that hit California yesterday and today — is on its way here — and we are going right into it. Might slow us down some — but that is OK. We have everything we could possibly need. Tonight was Rib-Eye steak BBQ'd by yours truly, corn made by Sue, Navajo Fry-Bread, homemade lemon muffins, and See's candy.
Let me know how many kits you want (one, or more) and I will send them out when we return.
We are 812 miles from home right now. Been gone for almost a week.
Wind steady at 20 MPH currently with gusts to possibly 30.
Wind is supposed to let up after it starts raining over nite — if not, we will just stay put until it does. Plenty of books, DVD's, food, and a Queen size bed with all,of the amenities.
Best, Fred
Fred, Looks like a fine getaway...nice pics! Have a safe trip home.
Please set aside a 704 kit for me, and a drag knob if you have one. Epoxy is holding mine together. Not sure for how long, though.
I'll PM a DQ parts list in a week or so, I need some for 110, 330, and maybe for a 550 I'm waiting to have delivered.
Again, safe travels.
Kal
Yeah, nice pictures. I love me some high-desert. Hope you can post more. Even if one didn't like a desert environment, you can't beat it for "getting away from it all".
Should have all you need and will send out when returning — just send me a list, Steve —
After "boon-docking" and being self-contained out in the New Mexico Navajo Nation close to Chaco Canyon, for a few days — we drove up to Utah to see Monument Valley. We stayed at a very nice campground with all hookups, showers, services, quiet, and nearly empty this time of year. Wind came in last night at over 40 MPH. Then heavy rain around 3:00 AM. By daybreak it went through. So today has been an easy day of heading home — crosswinds of around 18 to 20 MPH — but no issues for the truck & trailer. We have a full equalizer hitch set-up with a stabilizer and trailer brakes.
Just pulled off into the Kaibab National Forest just West of Williams, Arizona. Got the Honda generator and heater going. Sue is heating up some Chicken Breast Taco Casserole in the Microwave. We are about a mile off the interstate, in some trees — pretty spoiled, really. Just getting dark, and slid the clip into the 9MM.
Best, Fred
Quote from: foakes on October 27, 2021, 12:21:12 AM
Just getting dark, and slid the clip into the 9MM.
Fred, that sounds like it's right out of a suspense novel. ;D
What brand of nine, Fred? (Please don't say something that rhymes with "schlock")... :P ::) :D
~A~
MMM-Fry bred...
The local casino serves it, I might have to get some tonight.
The Man
My bullets are 9mm in diameter, but the cartridges have a rim and a LOT more powder. There's also very few guns with magazines that can shoot it and none that can handle the 180 WFN hard cast I shoot.
Rifles have manually operated bolts, handguns have cylinders and conventional reels have stars!
To each their own.
The Man
Beautiful photos Fred. I've never been lucky enough to see that area of our country.
Thank You for sharing your experience.
If you will, please send me a couple of your rebuild kits and a drag knob if possible.
No hurry. I'm in about my 100th day of working outages and don't expect to be doing any reel work until December. I did get a much needed 10 day vacation recently at St Simons Island Georgia.
It was awesome.
Thank You
-Steve
Quote from: Aiala on October 27, 2021, 08:09:57 PM
What brand of nine, Fred? (Please don't say something that rhymes with "schlock")... :P ::) :D
~A~
Just a little Hi Point Model C — steel slide, polymer frame, in 9MM, Lannie —
Also have a similar one in .380.
I have had Glocks — but never was comfortable with the trigger safety.
I only have a few hand guns these days — half revolvers, half semi-autos. While this is not an expensive weapon, it serves my purpose when camping with Sue out in the boondocks. Never carry a round in the chamber — and it just takes half a second to cycle the slide. It is not for animals — just our protection and way of feeling safer when out in a remote or possibly a threatening area.
Just a "response-ability".
Best, Fred
Can we keep guns talk in the guns section.
Quote from: nelz on October 29, 2021, 04:28:37 AM
Can we keep guns talk in the guns section.
That was a very reasonable request Nelz. The rest of the world could learn something from you.
The Man
Quote from: nelz on October 29, 2021, 04:28:37 AM
Can we keep guns talk in the guns section.
I am sorry that this side-bar post regarding my personal choice for protection for my wife and myself while remote camping — made you uncomfortable, uneasy, or offended.
I should not have even mentioned it, Nelz — sometimes I try to explain too much. My fault.
Your point is understandable —
If you or the original poster wish — I could take out the remarks regarding firearms.
Your call — we don't want anyone being uncomfortable or fearful when reading posts about fishing reels.
This was my fault for even mentioning how I choose to protect my family when in a remote wilderness location.
Sometimes (most times) I should keep my opinions and family protection measures to myself.
I apologize.
Best,
Fred
Fred, thanks for the apology, but really wasn't necessary, I understand how things can get side-tracked unintentionally. But yes, running into a guns discussion when I was just was looking to learn about a fishing reel was disturbing for reasons I won't go into in a public setting.
I'll leave it up to you to decide what to do with the posts.