Not sure how long this will work but we can keep track of their fishing adventure while it does....
https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-118.719/centery:32.89213/zoom:8/mmsi:367185130/shipid:3954040/_:e31d7a968e589a6efa2155f7ade631c0 (https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-118.719/centery:32.89213/zoom:8/mmsi:367185130/shipid:3954040/_:e31d7a968e589a6efa2155f7ade631c0)
Thanks for that link. Dominick
cool app
thanks
Looks like they're heading to Clemente to try for BFT for a couple of days to let the storm get past then probably head to the Rocks and the Ridge.
I just checked the site at 6:00 p.m. They are 3/4 of the way to San Clemente. Man that is 12 hours of diesel noise and bouncing. Not my kind of fun. Dominick
Just think of it as a 12 hour cocktail party interrupted by lunch, an afternoon snack and dinner. You can't really hear the engines from inside the salon.
The drone of the motors and rocking of the boat puts me to sleep. Those guys will be busy rigging up too and start fishing in the dark. Bet they're too pumped up to sleep anyway
Quote from: MarkT on October 10, 2018, 01:24:40 AM
Just think of it as a 12 hour cocktail party interrupted by lunch, an afternoon snack and dinner. You can't really hear the engines from inside the salon.
I guess that makes it palatable (pun intended). Dominick
That's the area off the backside of Clemente where we were on the Excel a week ago on Monday-Tuesday.
The reports from the backside of SCI has been flat calm and nice for the last few days. I was going to jump on a 2 day trip headed there but I was too late and the boat filled. Though the swell is up today
That is a cool site. You can click on other arrows, the only boats / ships south of the border are tankers or cruise ships.
I just checked the position of the SOA and there are 4 other boats within a mile of each other. Since they have not moved much all day they must be on to something. Dominick
i was just in that same spot on sunday and there were plenty of Bluefin around but they were not cooperating...We went 2/4 but saw plenty....
Hopefully they are doing better than we did...
They are running at 8.6 knots, that's trolling speed. Dominick
BFT out there are a time of day thing. They're probably looking around for sonar fish that they hope will play.
Question???? I've been on a couple long range trips and naturally had to pay for the Mexican permits but I have a question. If I come from out of state and the boat fishes in California waters, does the boats license cover me or do I have to obtain a California license prior to fishing? In Florida the charter/head boats cover the license requirements for non residents. On my trips we always went to Mexican waters before fishing but in the event that they didn't I was just wondering what the ramifications were.
Quote from: conchydong on October 10, 2018, 11:38:52 PM
Question???? I've been on a couple long range trips and naturally had to pay for the Mexican permits but I have a question. If I come from out of state and the boat fishes in California waters, does the boats license cover me or do I have to obtain a California license prior to fishing? In Florida the charter/head boats cover the license requirements for non residents. On my trips we always went to Mexican waters before fishing but in the event that they didn't I was just wondering what the ramifications were.
You need a Non-resident fishing license to fish in California waters. Dominick
The boat will charge you for the license. They did it on my 10 day for those without CA licenses.
They must have there transponder off it shows they haven't moved an inch all day and the last time it shows was 8 something this morning.
I think they use that AIS system and they can turn it off to go stealth but they're not supposed to. I'm not sure if it shows their last position when they turn it off until they turn it back on? Wouldn't suprise me if they stayed on the anchor all day though, they might have a plunker bite going getting the fish to come through their chum. There's been alot of boats there and might not want to lose their spot.
It seems like they all turn AIS off when they get into Mexican waters. Is it required in US waters but not down south?
Position shown was at 3:31 am PST. So they must have it off again.
Quote from: Dominick on October 10, 2018, 11:41:48 PM
Quote from: conchydong on October 10, 2018, 11:38:52 PM
Question???? I've been on a couple long range trips and naturally had to pay for the Mexican permits but I have a question. If I come from out of state and the boat fishes in California waters, does the boats license cover me or do I have to obtain a California license prior to fishing? In Florida the charter/head boats cover the license requirements for non residents. On my trips we always went to Mexican waters before fishing but in the event that they didn't I was just wondering what the ramifications were.
You need a Non-resident fishing license to fish in California waters. Dominick
Quote from: MarkT on October 11, 2018, 12:27:49 AM
The boat will charge you for the license. They did it on my 10 day for those without CA licenses.
Thanks, guys.
Scott
We arrived in Bogota Colombia for our Grandsons Wedding, I watching SOA trip. We will be back Wed as after 21 trips we found out my wife cannot handle the 8500 ft elevation of Bogota even though she was born and raised there.
joel8080
SOA back on tracking Heading north. Currently south of El Rosario 9+ knots...
So,
I've been an AIS administrator / operator since it's inception. Understandably, I've had to know exactly when to turn it on and off. Technically, SOA can use a class B device in the US because it is engaged in fishing operations. Class B devices have much lower transmission power than class A devices. If you've ever had Clemente shadow a ship to shore communication then you can understand why class B AIS doesn't cut it.
AIS passes it's location, and by default all other ships that particular transponder knows about. So, often fishing vessels will piggy back off each other until they find a class A required vessel that sends all the data to the world with their extra 7.5 watts of power. Usually a merchant or a destroyer heading in or out of San Dog for the Point Loma fleet.
The internet enabled AIS database will hold a vessel at its last location for a specified period of time (12 hours if I remember correctly.) AIS was designed to find boats that might have WMD on board and so the 12 hours gives the Coasties a chance to chase down a suspicious vessel.
The SOA stayed in one place on AIS until someone else picked them up. Mexico has different AIS exemptions. My guess is that all fishing vessels are completely exempt. Their maritime rules are unbelievably corrupt and you wouldn't want poachers that are giving the government a kick back prosecuted by another branch of the government, would you?
And that's more than anyone wants to know about AIS.
The Man
Ron,
That is actually fascinating stuff, thanks for sharing.
Nick
Thank you for the information